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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9800 on: June 4, 2018, 10:51:12 pm »
UEFA have already said they aren't taking any action against Ramos...

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9801 on: June 4, 2018, 10:53:25 pm »
I remember the Lloris one clearly. Had a big reaction on Twitter at the time as there was a clear overrule of the medical staff from Pochettino as they wanted to bring him off and he wasn't having any of it. Defended the medical staff on that one as they did everything they could but eventually it was the ignorance of the manager that led to him continuing.

There's a lot that needs to be done, including HIA's and player/manager education. Football is so far behind other sports on this its unreal.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9802 on: June 4, 2018, 10:56:11 pm »
I was knocked out once playing a match as I was accidentally hit on the side of my head.

I played on but I remember that it was like running through treacle and I was slow to see the ball. It was a bit like a dream and although I knew what I was doing, it didn't seem real and I was numb. I probably had concussion and in those days you just went home with a sore head.

We really need to ask UEFA what they will do about it. Ask them to review the video replays and they will have to admit that it was blatant and deliberate. They then must act to show that this type of cheating is not acceptable.

Suarez was banned for 4 months for doing something that wasn't a career ending act; Ramos's elbow could have resulted in serious injury and so it deserves at least a 4 month ban and then some.



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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9803 on: June 4, 2018, 10:56:50 pm »
So let me get me this straight:

The club had Karius visit a concussion specialist while he was going to the States on holiday. Said doctor is an expert in the field, who just happens to work in Massachusetts. This is in the interests of the long-term health of a club employee. The result of this expert researcher from all tests suggests he was concussed.

And yet some people, who likely are not experts in studying brain trauma, think it's all a PR move? Fucking hell.

Do you seriously think if the club was that concerned they’d happily send him to the States on a long haul flight to have a scan?
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9804 on: June 4, 2018, 10:57:57 pm »
UEFA have already said they aren't taking any action against Ramos...

We need to play politics here and ask why. Ask them if they would have done anything if Karius's cheek had been shattered and he couldn't have played on. UEFA are a pathetic organisation who need to be challenged.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9805 on: June 4, 2018, 10:58:38 pm »
Hopefully at the World Cup

Well between Salah and Karius he's managed to piss off TWO countries, so we can only hope.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9806 on: June 4, 2018, 10:59:28 pm »
Just caught up with this. So Karius was cleared by our doctors after the incident, but now a week later a doctor has said he was concussed and thats why he threw the ball into Benzema and why he let the other goal in?

No one has said that at all. I've heard the words PR stunt, confidence booster and nonsense like that.  If he was concussed, he was concussed, a doctor isnt going to risk his/her  professional reputation for a PR stunt.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9807 on: June 4, 2018, 11:00:03 pm »
I was knocked out once playing a match as I was accidentally hit on the side of my head.

I played on but I remember that it was like running through treacle and I was slow to see the ball. It was a bit like a dream and although I knew what I was doing, it didn't seem real and I was numb. I probably had concussion and in those days you just went home with a sore head.

We really need to ask UEFA what they will do about it. Ask them to review the video replays and they will have to admit that it was blatant and deliberate. They then must act to show that this type of cheating is not acceptable.

Suarez was banned for 4 months for doing something that wasn't a career ending act; Ramos's elbow could have resulted in serious injury and so it deserves at least a 4 month ban and then some.




You can guarantee UEFA would do fuck all

We would get a more frosty reception from them for bringing it to the table than Real would for it being their player that carried out the elbow

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9808 on: June 4, 2018, 11:01:29 pm »
Just hoping we get them in the Group stage and we can belt 12 shades of shit out of them.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9809 on: June 4, 2018, 11:01:48 pm »
Don't get me started mate

Exactly what i've been saying since the game, some will make out its just being 'soft/sensitive' to say it so they can look like a lad but its fucking ridiculous. We've seen things that transcend the sport entirely over the years on the field and following events on the field and some of them are awful. If I worked within a sport in which you see players like Cech affected for the rest of his career, Mason forced to retire... I could not bring myself to purposely throw my elbow towards someones face to win one game (Not that i would do it even if i hadn't seen any of the aforementioned incidents). Some will say things like this are an exaggeration but i don't buy all the 'he didn't know this would happen' accidental injuries happen but there's a difference between that and what the likes of Ramos and Pepe have done for years

That's the thing though, it's not accidental. You cannot accidentally pin someones arm, trip them, pull them towards you allowing them no control of their fall, fall on top of them and then roll over their elbow and shoulder joints. You cannot accidentally throw an elbow into someones head when hurtling past them.

They are both acts of violence that will have unknown consequences that range from none to potentially fatal. If I throw an elbow into someones head in the street for no reason, then that person suffers a bleed and dies, my "I didn't know it could kill him" defence wouldn't do very well in keeping me out of prison.

Random acts of violence will have random consequences that you have no control over them. That lack of control isn't an acceptable defence of your actions, but instead the very reason you shouldn't be violent in the first place. It seems being unhappy about such acts of violence is "being soft" until such time as someone is seriously hurt or has their career ended, in which case the hindsight analysts decide that one specific random act of violence was "too far".
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9810 on: June 4, 2018, 11:02:33 pm »
Just hoping we get them in the Group stage and we can belt 12 shades of shit out of them.

I think the semi-finals would be sweeter revenge, let them get close to the final but not close enough.

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« Reply #9811 on: June 4, 2018, 11:03:35 pm »
It was Villas-Boas who was managing Spurs at the time.

And I am using managing in the loosest possible terms there.

Ah yes, correct. Either way, horrendous 'managing' and overruling medical staff.


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« Reply #9812 on: June 4, 2018, 11:05:07 pm »
That's the thing though, it's not accidental. You cannot accidentally pin someones arm, trip them, pull them towards you allowing them no control of their fall, fall on top of them and then roll over their elbow and shoulder joints. You cannot accidentally throw an elbow into someones head when hurtling past them.

They are both acts of violence that will have unknown consequences that range from none to potentially fatal. If I throw an elbow into someones head in the street for no reason, then that person suffers a bleed and dies, my "I didn't know it could kill him" defence wouldn't do very well in keeping me out of prison.

Random acts of violence will have random consequences that you have no control over them. That lack of control isn't an acceptable defence of your actions, but instead the very reason you shouldn't be violent in the first place. It seems being unhappy about such acts of violence is "being soft" until such time as someone is seriously hurt or has their career ended, in which case the hindsight analysts decide that one specific random act of violence was "too far".

Oh believe me i don't mean that was accidental, he knew what he was doing in both instances. People were claiming he didn't know what injury would happen as if that matters :lmao

I agree with every word of your post mate and that's been my stance since the game. Even during it I said he's done that on purpose. I meant to put a full stop before the 'accidental injuries happen...' to separate it as the two bolded parts are unrelated.

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« Reply #9813 on: June 4, 2018, 11:06:19 pm »
Since a player that played for my local hockey club passed away due to the lingering effects of a concussion he sustained earlier on in his career, I'm a bit more sensitive to the subject than most. It doesn't matter whether the hit caused Karius to concede the goals he did, it doesn't matter if it affected the final or whether Ramos should be punished, what's important is that concussions are treated correctly. The next time this happens the player should be brought off, maybe the player should ask to be taken off, maybe the refs or the medical team should notice something's off, but there is no way he should be on the field after taking a hit to the head.

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« Reply #9814 on: June 4, 2018, 11:06:31 pm »
No sport is testing enough for doping. Until everyone is tested on a regularly basis (i.e. biweekly) doping control will never be effective and there will be cheats.

I remember the Lloris one clearly. Had a big reaction on Twitter at the time as there was a clear overrule of the medical staff from Pochettino as they wanted to bring him off and he wasn't having any of it. Defended the medical staff on that one as they did everything they could but eventually it was the ignorance of the manager that led to him continuing.

There's a lot that needs to be done, including HIA's and player/manager education. Football is so far behind other sports on this its unreal.

Ok, let me rephrase that Q. Is testing on a par with other sports such as athletics?
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« Reply #9815 on: June 4, 2018, 11:09:42 pm »
Since a player that played for my local hockey club passed away due to the lingering effects of a concussion he sustained earlier on in his career, I'm a bit more sensitive to the subject than most. It doesn't matter whether the hit caused Karius to concede the goals he did, it doesn't matter if it affected the final or whether Ramos should be punished, what's important is that concussions are treated correctly. The next time this happens the player should be brought off, maybe the player should ask to be taken off, maybe the refs or the medical team should notice something's off, but there is no way he should be on the field after taking a hit to the head.

I'm not in an even remotely similar position to you and sorry to hear you've seen that, its horrible that kind of thing can happen.

Although punishment is no where near the magnitude of the injury itself and what could follow, don't you think its important (punishment) as it could act as a deterrent for this kind of thing happening again in the future, even if its just that player initially... it sets a precedent that it wont be tolerated.

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9816 on: June 4, 2018, 11:10:35 pm »
That's the thing though, it's not accidental. You cannot accidentally pin someones arm, trip them, pull them towards you allowing them no control of their fall, fall on top of them and then roll over their elbow and shoulder joints. You cannot accidentally throw an elbow into someones head when hurtling past them.

They are both acts of violence that will have unknown consequences that range from none to potentially fatal. If I throw an elbow into someones head in the street for no reason, then that person suffers a bleed and dies, my "I didn't know it could kill him" defence wouldn't do very well in keeping me out of prison.

Random acts of violence will have random consequences that you have no control over them. That lack of control isn't an acceptable defence of your actions, but instead the very reason you shouldn't be violent in the first place. It seems being unhappy about such acts of violence is "being soft" until such time as someone is seriously hurt or has their career ended, in which case the hindsight analysts decide that one specific random act of violence was "too far".

I'm not 100% sure of the one on Salah BUT I am 100% certain about the elbow on Karius. As you said, when Ramos did it, he had no idea of the consequences other than it would probably cause injury. So how on earth can UEFA ignore that. They are realy condoning what Ramos did by not acting. Someday somebody will get seriously injured and then UEFA's lack of action will be partly to blame.

Karius could have been out for months UEFA will do nothing even though when you look at the evidence it is clear that Ramos knew what he was doing.

UEFA will ban somebody for spitting or biting but not for an elbow to the head.........ridiculous.
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« Reply #9817 on: June 4, 2018, 11:11:28 pm »
Part of the issue in football is the limited substitutions.

In many other sports, there are unlimited substitutions, so as soon as there's any chance of a concussion, you can take the player off, take them for tests, and have them come back on to the ice/field/court, without limits on substitutions.

In football, the substitution rules would have to change for the tests to be conducted, unless play is completely paused while the tests are going one, or else the team would have to play with 10 while tests are ongoing.  For example, you could do something like, if player A has a suspected concussion, then play stops and A is taken for testing.  Then, the team can make a "tentative substitution" by replacing player A with player B while testing occurs.  Play resumes.  If player A does have a concussion, then the substitution (B coming in for A) is confirmed.  1 of 3 subs used.  If player A does not have a concussion, then the team has the option of either throwing player A back on (0 subs used) or go ahead with player B (1 sub used).

This way, there is a chance for the player to return to the field of play after testing without either reducing the team to 10 while testing occurs or forcing a team to use up a substitution immediately.  It would hopefully encourage more recognition and faster response to any potential concussion.

Who knows if that will work, though.
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« Reply #9818 on: June 4, 2018, 11:11:48 pm »
Do you seriously think if the club was that concerned they’d happily send him to the States on a long haul flight to have a scan?


He was already going over there

Imagine working hard to get to the very top in your profession only to throw it all away to help a club you have no connection with in a PR stunt.

The timing of this is interesting too from my perspective. A PR stunt - surely this is coming out ASAP to avoid Karius being eviscerated in the press for 9 days. Why would they sit on this all that time, wait until the press have moved on and then bring it up again?

Here's an alternative theory, it's a bit left field, but bear with me.
- Karius gets a glancing elbow blow to the head
- Goes down and signals to multiple officials he was hit around the temple region of his head with an elbow, but is ignored
- The "visual spatial dysfunction [that] existed and likely occurred immediately following the event" played a large part in him having a horrific 30 minutes following this
- As he had already planned to travel to the US for his holidays, as he did last year also, he goes to see the best available doctor for head trauma
- They diagnose him as having concussion because getting twatted on the head by an elbow at high speed is a known cause of concussion.

I know it's a bit of a simplistic approach to assume that everything is as it's appears. But not everything is some elaborate conspiracy that needs reading between the lines or that has been pulled out of Alex Jones' arse.

Exactly.

No one has said that at all. I've heard the words PR stunt, confidence booster and nonsense like that.  If he was concussed, he was concussed, a doctor isnt going to risk his/her  professional reputation for a PR stunt.
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Yep.
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« Reply #9819 on: June 4, 2018, 11:14:11 pm »
I'm not in an even remotely similar position to you and sorry to hear you've seen that, its horrible that kind of thing can happen.

Although punishment is no where near the magnitude of the injury itself and what could follow, don't you think its important (punishment) as it could act as a deterrent for this kind of thing happening again in the future, even if its just that player initially... it sets a precedent that it wont be tolerated.

Yes punishment will not prevent all future serious foul play like this but it may deter a lot of players who live on the edge like Ramos. UEFA have the opportunity to take this seriously but they obviously don't and that just shows that they are incompetent.
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« Reply #9820 on: June 4, 2018, 11:21:29 pm »
Since a player that played for my local hockey club passed away due to the lingering effects of a concussion he sustained earlier on in his career, I'm a bit more sensitive to the subject than most. It doesn't matter whether the hit caused Karius to concede the goals he did, it doesn't matter if it affected the final or whether Ramos should be punished, what's important is that concussions are treated correctly. The next time this happens the player should be brought off, maybe the player should ask to be taken off, maybe the refs or the medical team should notice something's off, but there is no way he should be on the field after taking a hit to the head.

Given the Lloris incident before, perhaps there should be a team neutral professional at games who diagnosis this and indicates players to be removed from the field, even allowing an additional substitution to do so. I think WelshRed mentioned before there is something like this in rugby?

If you leave it up the managers to make that call, there is no fucking way the likes of Allardyce, Pulis, etc are making that call the right way. Likewise if you leave it up to concussed players to say they need to come off in big games, that won't happen either.



This is Owen, aged 18, unconscious on the pitch in a pre-World Cup warm up game. He stayed on the pitch, scored the winning goal that saw him set a new record as youngest ever England goalscorer and selected in the final 23 man squad. If he goes off the pitch though, none of that happens and he likely doesn't make the final 23 cut with a concussion 2 weeks before their first group game. So there is always far more motivation to lie to stay on the pitch rather than come off, and that as assuming the player has the presence of mind to even think that much about it to begin with.
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« Reply #9821 on: June 4, 2018, 11:21:34 pm »
Yes punishment will not prevent all future serious foul play like this but it may deter a lot of players who live on the edge like Ramos. UEFA have the opportunity to take this seriously but they obviously don't and that just shows that they are incompetent.

Spot on.

I have zero faith in things like this being taken seriously and dealt with how they should be until I see otherwise though

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« Reply #9823 on: June 4, 2018, 11:24:57 pm »
I don't think you can blame the referee or the on field medical staff at all because Karius didn't go down after his head knock and didn't report anything at the time. In fact, a lot of people missed the elbow to the head and only found out about it after the game.

He did inform the ref but he ignored him.

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« Reply #9824 on: June 4, 2018, 11:25:18 pm »
Yeah, it's being discussed in the current injuries thread.


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« Reply #9825 on: June 4, 2018, 11:27:25 pm »
Given the Lloris incident before, perhaps there should be a team neutral professional at games who diagnosis this and indicates players to be removed from the field, even allowing an additional substitution to do so. I think WelshRed mentioned before there is something like this in rugby?

If you leave it up the managers to make that call, there is no fucking way the likes of Allardyce, Pulis, etc are making that call the right way. Likewise if you leave it up to concussed players to say they need to come off in big games, that won't happen either.



This is Owen, aged 18, unconscious on the pitch in a pre-World Cup warm up game. He stayed on the pitch, scored the winning goal that saw him set a new record as youngest ever England goalscorer and selected in the final 23 man squad. If he goes off the pitch though, none of that happens and he likely doesn't make the final 23 cut with a concussion 2 weeks before their first group game. So there is always far more motivation to lie to stay on the pitch rather than come off, and that as assuming the player has the presence of mind to even think that much about it to begin with.

Not that i'm a professional or have been anywhere near to that level haha but I have continued playing a game after being knocked out. It would take a lot to get me off the pitch, either feeling not myself at all and feeling as though i couldn't continue at all or being told something terrifying as a potential consequence but outside of that i'd say anything to stay on and assured the manager i was fine. Worrying and obviously stupid but when you love playing at any opportunity you get and that's coupled with a lack of knowledge of the finer details of the severity of things like a concussion, its a dangerous mixture that could end terribly

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« Reply #9826 on: June 4, 2018, 11:28:01 pm »
I didn't catch the incident at the time. Two of us were looking at the screen wondering why the fuck Karius was lying on the ground after the ball was cleared. The TV cameras apparently didn't either, "apparently" as in the first I saw of it was on Twitter a couple of hours after the game — there were no replays shown that I saw (apologies if there were and I simply missed them), no esteemed pundits holding forth on what taking a crack to the head might do to a player's critical faculties (if they had, then I'm sure the consensus would have been that there was no excuse, that Karius should just "man-up"). The useless prick behind the goal didn't see it, nor the linesman. No one on the Liverpool bench saw it, obviously, but then I suppose they were a fair distance away and it is a fast-moving sport.

But you know the one person who doesn't have an out here, who may not have seen it but was explicitly told by the player that he had just been nailed with an elbow to the head? The referee. And he has no fucking excuse whatsoever for just waving the Liverpool goalkeeper away.

What little I know about concussions (gleaned mainly from reading about the genesis of the NFL's crisis) is that they can range from immediately debilitating, punch-drunk, "where am I?" symptoms to very mild to the point of seeming non-existent to the victim. It's an insidious injury (hidden beneath skin, bone and hair), and rendered all the more so by the outdated view espoused by some that you can just "shake it off". Maybe Karius should have stayed on the ground, maybe he should have drawn more attention to it, maybe his biggest crime is not being an utter fucking c*nt, the type of c*nt, perhaps, who would carry out assaults on football pitches in the name of winning. But the likelihood is that he didn't even know there was anything wrong when he jumped to his feet and pointed out to the referee that he had just had his bell rung. So it's pointless saying that Karius should have told the Liverpool bench that he was feeling the effects — in his own injured mind, he may not have even been capable of making that determination (which is to say nothing of factors like this being the biggest occasion of his career and feelings of not wanting to let his teammates down). I bet he couldn't have given you a reason why he rolled that ball into Benzema's path, or allowed Bale's shot, far less venemous than Kolarov's at Anfield, as I recall, to slip through his hands ("I tried to catch it, maybe I should have done it safer"). Many would have called those mistakes "brain farts". Turns out they were half-correct — they were the results of brain injuries and he shouldn't have even been on the pitch to commit them. Ironically, it would have been better for him (and maybe his team) had he been knocked out cold.

I'm gutted for him. The character assassinations I've seen carried out by people who should know better (I don't mean anyone here) have been disgusting in some cases, all the while ignoring Ramos' actions under the umbrella of "winning". What a man. You'd love him if he played for Liverpool, some said. No I fucking wouldn't. But yeah, he's a "winner", no consequences for him. There should be for the referee, however, the one man on the pitch along with Karius (who had just suffered an injury to his brain) to know what had happened. And he did nothing. Concussions are injuries to the brain and I recall reading that suffering one makes it more likely that you'll suffer another, that is unless you're immediately removed from the action and allowed time to heal. The referee doesn't have a stake in the result, but he does in the safety of those players. He utterly failed in that duty.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #9827 on: June 4, 2018, 11:29:35 pm »
I’d be more tempted to say Ramos has the mentality problem.

Brian Clough says it best (or the film version):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dYBj_qAJtRA

Winning isn’t everything. Decency comes first. The best sides in history win with style and overcome adversity, they don’t inflict it.

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“Ramos, you may be a Spanish international, and have won all the domestic honours there are to win. But as far as I’m concerned, the first thing you can do for me is chuck your 2018 Champions League medal into the biggest f*cking dustbin you can find. Because you never won it fairly. You’ve won it by cheating.”

Would fit on a banner when we play them next year. That should draw the cameras attention.
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« Reply #9828 on: June 4, 2018, 11:32:54 pm »
Cheers. Seemed unlikely I was first to post. Only an hour old on BBC so probably 12 hours old on other sites.

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« Reply #9829 on: June 4, 2018, 11:47:03 pm »
Concussions are serious things. It's being discussed a lot in ice hockey over here. Players suffer for years because they have been asked/allowed to continue playing. Literally today it's been brought up for people who fall off horses. They need to follow the same step by step process. Knowing the disasters seen with players in the NFL, I reckon a neutral doctor should be consulted during games before players are allowed to continue, if a concussion is suspected.

It's a bit strange, but I think this is what could save Karius' career at LFC.

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« Reply #9830 on: June 5, 2018, 12:00:29 am »
Psychologically this could be a huge boost for Karius as he would have something external an concrete to look at, as opposed to internalize and think it was all down to his poor decisions. If he could shift some of the focus and negative thoughts from himself onto something palpable he'll be in a much better state in the coming weeks and months.
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« Reply #9831 on: June 5, 2018, 12:00:53 am »
I think the semi-finals would be sweeter revenge, let them get close to the final but not close enough.


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« Reply #9832 on: June 5, 2018, 12:03:05 am »
Psychologically this could be a huge boost for Karius as he would have something external an concrete to look at, as opposed to internalize and think it was all down to his poor decisions. If he could shift some of the focus and negative thoughts from himself onto something palpable he'll be in a much better state in the coming weeks and months.

I would think that the Sports Psychologist will use that to get his head straight.Shouldn't be hard either considering before the elbow he was having a fine game.
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« Reply #9833 on: June 5, 2018, 12:05:02 am »
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I was suffering from concussion last summer when I said Manchester United were close to signing Antoine Griezmann


It's shit like this, why would you banter about something like that?  Just terrible.

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I was suffering from concussion last summer when I said Manchester United were close to signing Antoine Griezmann


It's shit like this, why would you banter about something like that?  Just terrible.

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« Reply #9835 on: June 5, 2018, 12:36:21 am »
He did get elbowed in the head by that twat

UEFA reviewed the blatant assault on Karius and deemed it wasn't worthy of any action as it was Ramos and he plays for Real Madrid. Ramos' WWE move on Salah wasn't even reviewed as Ramos had done it before in the previous year's Final, so it must be allowed.
Seriously, Karius must have been affected by a violent elbow to the head but does it explain his mistakes? Who knows, but it does bring into question how Ramos got away with it.

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« Reply #9836 on: June 5, 2018, 12:37:10 am »
And Chris the c### Sutton believes it should have been kept under wraps because it could just be an excuse for the mistakes

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« Reply #9837 on: June 5, 2018, 12:48:17 am »
And Chris the c### Sutton believes it should have been kept under wraps because it could just be an excuse for the mistakes

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« Reply #9838 on: June 5, 2018, 12:58:09 am »
This doesn't suit their agenda does it. Most of the these pricks in punditry and media in football in the UK live for destroying coaches and players.  It's what brings the clicks and the attention.  Being empathetic doesn't.

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« Reply #9839 on: June 5, 2018, 01:04:19 am »
So you're saying we need to kill him to work out whether this is all kosher or not?

Seems reasonable. At least we'd know one way or t'other.
and the bonus is we'd get a new keeper;-)