Author Topic: Howard Gayle turns down MBE (Read 12834 times)

Sudden Death Draft Loser · « **on:** August 11, 2016, 05:35:34 pm »

The first black footballer to play for Liverpool has turned down an MBE nomination, saying it would be "a betrayal" to Africans who suffered at the hands of the British Empire.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-37047318

AaronSingh25 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 11, 2016, 05:41:10 pm »

Good on him. Not exactly football related, but i wish more Indian/Asians would follow this pattern - especially after the atrocities and piligiing the British inflicted on India during it's occupuation.

KissThisGuy · « **Reply #2 on:** August 11, 2016, 06:00:21 pm »

Bob Geldof take note.

Sir Afghan · « **Reply #3 on:** August 11, 2016, 06:31:25 pm »

Good on him, load of shite anyway

Spezialo · « **Reply #4 on:** August 11, 2016, 06:49:22 pm »

Respect. Good on him.

lfcrule6times · « **Reply #5 on:** August 11, 2016, 07:11:13 pm »

Good for him. Honours system needs a total reform anyway. Or better still just abolish it.

youll never walk alone it · « **Reply #6 on:** August 11, 2016, 07:21:09 pm »

Well in lad.

dirkster · « **Reply #7 on:** August 11, 2016, 08:20:08 pm »

Good on you Howard lad, fair play for sticking to your principles.
Ps still remember with fondness his performance in the European cup semi in 81

rojo para la vida · « **Reply #8 on:** August 11, 2016, 08:20:51 pm »

Very proud of him. The whole system is tainted and corrupt.

Eeyore · « **Reply #9 on:** August 11, 2016, 08:55:11 pm »

Quote from: rojo para la vida on August 11, 2016, 08:20:51 pm

Very proud of him. The whole system is tainted and corrupt.

+1

Redman0151 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 11, 2016, 08:57:23 pm »

Well in, i'd be embarrassed to take any "honours" from this country, it's a pathetic bigoted mess with a horrible history.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #11 on:** August 11, 2016, 09:01:56 pm »

I'd like to know how Howie Gayle knows David Cameron.

the_red_pill · « **Reply #12 on:** August 11, 2016, 09:08:49 pm »

Good on ya mate!

thegoodfella · « **Reply #13 on:** August 11, 2016, 09:10:33 pm »

Massive respect for the man. Definitely going to read up about him a lot more now.

DangerScouse · « **Reply #14 on:** August 11, 2016, 09:21:29 pm »

Good man. Antiquated bollox.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 11, 2016, 09:40:55 pm »

A couple of my mates told me about this yesterday...we know H from back when were kids ...he was a good lad then and an even better man now...wouldn't have expected anything else from the lad....nice one la.

Samie · « **Reply #16 on:** August 11, 2016, 09:50:42 pm »

Even the meaning behind MBE pisses me off. MEMBER OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE! Fuck off!

Alanslad · « **Reply #17 on:** August 11, 2016, 10:01:28 pm »

Top man. Well done.

Daniel Cabbaggio · « **Reply #18 on:** August 12, 2016, 01:27:33 am »

Fair play to him

fredfrop · « **Reply #19 on:** August 12, 2016, 11:15:38 am »

Sound.

oojason · « **Reply #20 on:** August 12, 2016, 12:01:52 pm »

Well in to Howard.

surfer. Fuck you generator. · « **Reply #21 on:** August 12, 2016, 12:11:07 pm »

Quote from: firing squad on August 12, 2016, 11:41:02 am

Lots of self hating masochism around this thread...

Errr....you do know this is a Liverpool forum yes.

It's got nothing to do with masochism nor self hate.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 12, 2016, 12:40:53 pm »

Quote from: firing squad on August 12, 2016, 11:41:02 am

Lots of self hating masochism around this thread...

Scouse not English

Smellytrabs · « **Reply #23 on:** August 12, 2016, 01:00:31 pm »

Hats off to Howard. Well done sir.

kesey · « **Reply #24 on:** August 12, 2016, 02:00:44 pm »

Quote from: dave 5516 on August 11, 2016, 09:40:55 pm

A couple of my mates told me about this yesterday...we know H from back when were kids ...he was a good lad then and an even better man now...wouldn't have expected anything else from the lad....nice one la.

A bit of a lad to at the match Ive read.

kesey · « **Reply #25 on:** August 12, 2016, 02:01:49 pm »

Quote from: Samie on August 11, 2016, 09:50:42 pm

Even the meaning behind MBE pisses me off. MEMBER OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE! Fuck off!

My passport qualifies me then.

Bergersrightwingviews · « **Reply #26 on:** August 12, 2016, 02:19:56 pm »

Good for him.

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #27 on:** August 12, 2016, 02:23:51 pm »

Quote from: Samie on August 11, 2016, 09:50:42 pm

Even the meaning behind MBE pisses me off. MEMBER OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE! Fuck off!

That's part of the problem - the need to reference something that was effectively ended in1945. I'm sure most countries have some form of recognition for people like Gayle (shocked to see he is 58' thought he was still 23) without needing to bring up antiquity. Don't agree with knighthoods, lordships etc. But there needs to be some form of public acknowledgement and recognition for those who have worked hard in/for their communities.

It's obscene the way greasy business men - insert your hate figure of choice - are given voting rights in our second chamber just because they have lots of money and can manipulate an archaic system.

At least in mediaeval times you got there by hacking your rivals in pieces.

Rant over!

sms1986 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 12, 2016, 02:33:37 pm »

Good for him!

HumanRed · « **Reply #29 on:** August 12, 2016, 11:14:25 pm »

Well this is a surprise. Very good move on his part; helps to raise the problems of this award and the gruesome history of the Empire.

Not too sure what an MBE entails, I don;t think they get any cash for it. Seems like they just get an empty title and a little visit to the palace. I think the irony here is, that title of MBE will probably get him more kudos abroad in former "colonies".

Colonialism is of the mind nowadays, well done on Howard for making a stand.

Kenny's Jacket · « **Reply #30 on:** August 13, 2016, 04:18:35 am »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on August 11, 2016, 08:57:23 pm

Well in, i'd be embarrassed to take any "honours" from this country, it's a pathetic bigoted mess with a horrible history.

It really isnt. How many countries have you lived in? UK is one of the least bigoted countries in the world.

BeautifulGame91 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 13, 2016, 05:07:53 am »

Quote from: HumanRed on August 12, 2016, 11:14:25 pm

Well this is a surprise. Very good move on his part; helps to raise the problems of this award and the gruesome history of the Empire.

Not too sure what an MBE entails, I don;t think they get any cash for it. Seems like they just get an empty title and a little visit to the palace. I think the irony here is, that title of MBE will probably get him more kudos abroad in former "colonies".

Colonialism is of the mind nowadays, well done on Howard for making a stand.

Doubt it .

georgiejones · « **Reply #32 on:** August 13, 2016, 07:48:56 am »

Quote from: KissThisGuy on August 11, 2016, 06:00:21 pm

Bob Geldof take note.

Bob geldof is a c*nt of the highest order

BossThaLa82 · « **Reply #33 on:** August 13, 2016, 08:40:23 am »

Top fella for doing this but should of done a John Lennon and received it then returned it. We just don't take to the queen and her southern based Estableshment in Liverpool fuck them.

Your Majesty, I am returning my MBE go shove it where the sun doesn't shine you shape shifting reptilian.

BritishGas · « **Reply #34 on:** August 13, 2016, 08:48:42 am »

Quote from: Kenny's Jacket on August 13, 2016, 04:18:35 am

UK is one of the least bigoted countries in the world.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #35 on:** August 13, 2016, 10:34:38 am »

Quote from: Kenny's Jacket on August 13, 2016, 04:18:35 am

It really isnt. How many countries have you lived in? UK is one of the least bigoted countries in the world.

Yeah just ignore the millions who messed up the economy to try get rid of foreigners and Muslims, and the millions who read the sun and the daily mail and you're spot on.

I'm not talking about other countries

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #36 on:** August 13, 2016, 10:39:17 am »

Quote from: Kenny's Jacket on August 13, 2016, 04:18:35 am

It really isnt. How many countries have you lived in? UK is one of the least bigoted countries in the world.

No country is perfect and the vast majority have periods in their history which are shameful. I'm sure their are some who haven't invaded or exploited others but the majority are no different.

Their are bigots here but generally the country is pretty liberal - maybe I don't read enough Daily Mail though so my faith may be misplaced.

Kenny's Jacket · « **Reply #37 on:** August 13, 2016, 11:19:52 am »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on August 13, 2016, 10:34:38 am

Yeah just ignore the millions who messed up the economy to try get rid of foreigners and Muslims, and the millions who read the sun and the daily mail and you're spot on.

I'm not talking about other countries

For what its worth I voted remain. However not everyone who voted leave did so to get rid of foreigners. You are being reactionary and getting it wrong. As for not talking about other Countries, you need other countries as a comparative.

Your post is extremely lazy, ill thought out and basically just wrong. Britain is a VERY Liberal country.

Kenny's Jacket · « **Reply #38 on:** August 13, 2016, 11:21:40 am »

Quote from: Howard Phillips on August 13, 2016, 10:39:17 am

No country is perfect and the vast majority have periods in their history which are shameful. I'm sure their are some who haven't invaded or exploited others but the majority are no different.

Their are bigots here but generally the country is pretty liberal - maybe I don't read enough Daily Mail though so my faith may be misplaced.

Yeah Im not making any comment on The BE and colonisation. However we are a pretty decent population now and treat people from minorities very well.

rojo para la vida · « **Reply #39 on:** August 13, 2016, 01:20:17 pm »

Quote from: Kenny's Jacket on August 13, 2016, 11:19:52 am

For what its worth I voted remain. However not everyone who voted leave did so to get rid of foreigners. You are being reactionary and getting it wrong. As for not talking about other Countries, you need other countries as a comparative.

Your post is extremely lazy, ill thought out and basically just wrong. Britain is a VERY Liberal country.

Don't want to turn this into a nasty debate especially as this is a thread that praises one of our ex-players who has done the right thing but one of the few politicians that I admire, Dennis Skinner, voted out and no one could accuse him of being racist or a man whose interests aren't with the working classes. His reasons are quite interesting, (there are articles about it in The Morning Star and Spectator), so it's unfair to think that everyone who voted out were small minded Johnny Foreigner haters, although I accept that people of that disposition wouldn't have voted any other way, as I accept that the majority of big businesses wouldn't vote any other way but remain because they want a constant stream of cheap labour to keep their profits high.

I do wonder what the reaction would be from supporters of certain other clubs if one of their players turned down an 'honour'. All the Queen and country bullshit would be quoted at the player and the reaction of our fans makes me proud that we are more than a football club.