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Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« on: September 23, 2012, 09:12:27 am »
The league cup has been great for Liverpool over the years, we re the most successful club in the competitions history, who could forget the great days in the competition Ronnie Whelan’s equaliser at Wembley, Kenny’s winner at Villa Park, Everton at Wembley and Main Road, Robbie’s goal in Cardiff and that to say nothing of being the reigning champions, the tournament through which we have  qualified for this years Europa League or UEFA Cup to give it its real title.

Given the owners consideration for Kenny’s league cup win last season, I doubt very much that they hold this competition in high regard, I was not surprised that John W Henry did not charter a flight to the Gomel home game to see the hordes of future generations, that he should be building on, swarming around Anfield. That said, should we progress in the tournament, no doubt we will see him in Amsterdam, wonder if he’ll bring his bird with him?

In the brave new world of Sky football with four (or now possibly 5) clubs, Super  Sunday, the Premier League & the Champions League multi-screen, fans of the ‘big four or five’ generally have about as much interest in the UEFA Cup as a rabbi in Christmas, some just see it as a chore, play the kids, is the rallying cry. The UEFA cup has an immense place in the history of Liverpool Football Club, not only did it represent Shankly’s only European trophy but it was also Sir Bob’s first, he tournament saw the change to our post-Heysal ban luck in Europe and was the pride of Gerarrd Houllier’s reign.

What it also gave was an opportunity, in 2001, for a whole new generation of Liverpool fans to travel Europe supporting the reds particularly with the trips to Rome & Barcelona, to say nothing of the brilliant night in the Westfalenstadion. Still for the sky-washed generation, the tournament still represent Thusday night, channel 5, rather than Gary Mac sending Barcelona packing, nestling somewhere between the league cup and the NextGen in the hearts of many of the Liverpool faithful.

Still a trip to a new town in Switzerland didn’t sound too bad when the draw was made and was promptly booked up, with the auld adage, plains, trains & automobiles firmly in mind.  First up Wednesday afternoon was the car, a couple of pints in the Ship n Mitre on Dale Street before being collected at the foot of the tunnel by our Welsh contingent. Another stop at the Holt in Kenny and the four of us where en-route to Gatwick, talking about not much but the state of footy for the entire journey.

Cheap hotel in Gatwick & meet up with the Jersey lads for a couple of pints and Chelsea v Juve in the hotel bar and in early flight to Basel, hilarious to see a fella balddered getting kicked out the bar in Gatwick airport half seven in the morning, don’t know if he got his plane or not but wouldn’t have any wedge on it. Anyway couple of pints in Basel while we pick up the final part of the crew who’d arrived the day earlier from Bournemouth and the last leg of the journey was the train Basel to Bern.

Hotel in Bern right facing the station and full of the usual suspects, and once we can get checked in, we are soon enough looking for a bar. Walked around the corner and found one called Pickwick’s, Irish bar, flags outside and some bad mono-tone singing coming from inside about Maggie Thatcher, fucken shite, avoid at all costs. News of the team was in, no surprises, mainly made up kids and squad players. Maybe more surprising was the press conference the day before, where Brendan has made it clear he doesn’t think he had the squad to compete on this front. Personally think it’s a bit early to write off a competition, maybe the one that we have most chance of landing, certainly a competition we have a better chance of delivering than Sky’s Premier League. I understand the pressure on the manager to aim for champions league qualifying and the riches that may bring the owners, but surely the UEFA Cup is a legitimate target?

Anyway we found a couple of bar’s more suited to my character, ie empty and dead,  where I could do some real moaning, never been cheap this fucken Switzerland gaff, and it was time to jump on the number 9 tram up to the ground. As ever, the thing was fucken chocka and a few of the away regulars there in numbers, the irregulars got binned coz it was too chocka, still they didn’t look that arsed.

Ground had reds all around it, we always seem to have quite a big Swiss following, not sure where that comes from, but there was plenty all around the ground, probably outnumbering travelling reds.

The game itself was sound, 8 goals, one of the strangest own goals you are ever likely to see, solid possession and didn’t get kept in at the end, that’ll do. There were some excellent performances from the youngsters notably Wisdom & Suso, while debutant Assaidi also looked to be decent. I think Borini has had a bit of a rough time so far, maybe he was a bit over-hyped by the manager but to me he looks strong, willing as fuck and, given his age & inexperience, will get better, much better.

Most of the issues the team had were with the older, more experienced players, but it was the arrival of Shelvey, a player who looks and plays much older than his birth certificate indicates, that changed the game and secured the victory. Shelvey does seem to be coming into his own and appears to put height and weight on over the Summer, suspect we’ll soon know exactly how good he is, but clearly highly rated within the club and recently given an extended contract.

I always though that a good win here would put us on the road to the knock-out stages and that is probably why I thought the manager would pick a stronger team in a what was clearly a highly winnable game. Suspect the choice of team had much to do with having Man U and not Reading at home this weekend, either way looks like the manager got it right & I was wrong, hardly a surprise. Some young players gained experience, players got much needed games as well as the confidence that 5 goals and a victory brings, most of all, it puts in a strong position to progress in the tournament if we can win our home games.

The usual suspects around Bern and the night ends with a rousing Irregular rendition of two little boys in the Desperado bar, which had the same clientele that you can find in The Grapes any Friday night.

Some people will see the UEFA Cup as an unwelcome distraction this season, not sure the same people will see it that way if we end up in Amsterdam with thirty thousand plus, but maybe that’s wishful thinking. As it is, Bern was sound, if expensive, the match was about as good as anything we’ve seen away in Europe for quite a while and there was plenty to be positive about.   
« Last Edit: September 23, 2012, 11:12:54 pm by Veinticinco de Mayo »
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Re: Young Boys
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 07:13:38 pm »
Good read, thanks.

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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2012, 11:13:29 pm »
Nice on John, thanks.
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 11:23:06 pm »
Enjoyable read that.  Pickwicks was originally on our avoid list too, but eventually we decided to have a look, and made our way down there in order to have a bit of a sing song, and managed to get a few classics going - plus of course the Luis Garcia song.

Good trip though, and I agree with your sentiments on the competition itself.  I'm convinced we're going to win it as well.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 11:32:52 pm »
The thread title sounds a little wrong lets say!
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 11:36:38 pm »
The thread title sounds a little wrong lets say!

Attracted your attention though notably ;)
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 12:00:23 am »
Some team's fans would give their eye-teeth for a sniff of European football. Hope we can go a long way in the Europa UEFA.

Good read John, ta.

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2012, 12:44:26 am »
Enjoyed that so thanks for sharing.
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2012, 09:00:36 am »
I've missed our Euro trip saga's more than anything else round here
Thanks for your story John, keep em coming mate.
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2012, 09:10:58 am »
Was proud to be there at the end in Desperados singing' Two Little Boys',one of the lads said it was about 4ish,notice we were all a bit hungover at your birthday breakfast John!!

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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2012, 04:02:00 pm »
It's mad and I'm not just being saying this to knock the owners, in fact in many ways I don't want to talk about them but it is mad that because two fellas who know, by their own admission, little about football and probably hadn't heard of us a few years ago have decided that the Europa Cup or any cup for that matter isn't important. And because of who they are that defines the managers attitude to the Europa Leauge.
 
As said in the OP 2001 was the chance for loads of our fans to start their European experience, the experience that culminates with Istanbul not only the fans benefit but going on the same journey is the team. Learning what Europes about, what's works and what doesn't, that experience will be so valuable for the young lads if they make it We talk about doing it the right way but devalue our tradition.
 
And this make no mistake is our tradition. This is what it's all about. Journeys to new places making new memories and supporting the team.  Thanks John for taking the time to write it up really enjoyed it. When you read this you realise what you're missing sitting in the house watching television. Some great supporters on Rawk it make the site a  far better site to have their experiences supporting the team on here.
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2012, 08:10:38 pm »
Was proud to be there at the end in Desperados singing' Two Little Boys',one of the lads said it was about 4ish,notice we were all a bit hungover at your birthday breakfast John!!
Did you see Mally on the trip Rhylred.  :wave
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2012, 08:44:38 pm »
Best thing on RAWK for a long time that - really enjoyed it John, thanks. :)

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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2012, 09:14:24 pm »
What a great report. Cheers John.

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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2012, 09:22:27 pm »
Great read that,  thanks for the top post.

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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2012, 09:27:21 pm »
Good read John, thanks.

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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2012, 09:31:58 pm »
Did you see Mally on the trip Rhylred.  :wave
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christ I saw everyone but Mally on this one,saw him
At Sunderland week before
He might have been PISSHED up night before and slept in likes a bevvie does mally.  :wave
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2012, 09:52:24 pm »
Ta for that really good to hear the details much appreciated.

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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2012, 10:44:52 pm »
Great read mate, different to all other threads. My imagination allowed me to follow you from bar to bar.

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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2012, 10:48:34 pm »
Great read mate, different to all other threads. My imagination allowed me to follow you from bar to bar.

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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2012, 11:01:56 pm »
Best thing on RAWK for a long time that - really enjoyed it John, thanks. :)
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2012, 05:54:23 am »
Great report mate thanks for posting.  Hopefully there are more positive european aways to come..

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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2012, 01:41:51 pm »
People should be queueing up to thank you for this, but they'd rather bitch about Being Liverpool.

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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2012, 01:57:48 pm »
Love these first-hand accounts. Cheers.

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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2012, 09:13:51 pm »
This was wonderful, John. Thank you for sharing!

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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2012, 09:39:12 pm »
Have you seen wanking dwarfs around Bern?
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2012, 09:54:05 pm »
Good read John
Mirrored my trip that. Same flight, same train. I'm guessing it was the same train station bar we were in waiting to go to Berne.
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2012, 09:55:13 pm »
Great read that mate. Pissed that I couldn't get away from work for the Bern trip but glad that now have the time off for Udinese. Can't wait to get back on the Euro trip and I expect 30,000 of us in the Dam in May.
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2012, 09:58:18 pm »
Thanks for posting this :thumbup

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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2012, 10:01:28 pm »
Good read John
Mirrored my trip that. Same flight, same train. I'm guessing it was the same train station bar we were in waiting to go to Berne.
Really weird that cos I was sat in there talking to my mate about books on Liverpool and I was asking him if he knew John Mac off RAWK, because I was wondering if it was you that co wrote 'A season on the drink' could have walked over and asked you myself.

It wasn't that was John Mackin of RAOTL, a shandy drinker.
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2012, 10:06:55 pm »
It wasn't that was John Mackin of RAOTL, a shandy drinker.

Thanks, just reading some of your posts and reading that book made me think it could have been.

Oh yeah, and we weren't the the ones on the flight in full Liverpool kit.
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« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2012, 10:15:37 pm »
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2012, 10:16:35 pm »
Good read John.Thanks for posting.Keep em up  :wave
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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2012, 10:19:14 pm »
Oh yeah, and we weren't the the ones on the flight in full Liverpool kit.

Course you weren't..............

Did get a photo of you going through passy control though
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« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2012, 10:40:41 pm »
Course you weren't..............

Did get a photo of you going through passy control though

Fuck, didn't see you take that
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« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2012, 10:53:54 pm »
Good read. Reading things like this reminds me of Redmen-A Season On The Drink. One of my favourite LFC books
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« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2012, 08:02:01 am »
Enjoyed that mate, made me a bit sad though. Think it might be time to start the aul cars, trains and aeroplanes up again. I swerved it because I've never liked Switzerland, bit too antiseptic for me. But looks like that was a giggle.

I can't understand anyone not being interested in the UEFA. Got to admit, it's a bit of a pain with the scheduling, but remember the joy of winning it for the first time. I think they've purposely down graded it to make way for the eventual European Super League. I know plenty of people who can't be arsed with the UEFA now, young and old. Fuck that. I wouldn't mind a trip to Amsterdam in May, meself.
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Re: Young Boys - Euro-Tripper Report
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2012, 10:17:22 am »
Enjoyed that John. Hope you do one for every trip up to the final!

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« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2012, 10:30:56 am »
Bern was a boss place.

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