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--- Quote from: Schmidt on October  2, 2022, 06:21:16 pm ---Playing Elliot so high seems personnel driven rather than necessarily how we want to play. Anyone else in that role tries to track back more and plug gaps, but Elliot gets free reign to just play how he wants.

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Worked a treat yesterday.


--- Quote from: please, I have my reasons for it but... on October  2, 2022, 02:44:10 pm ---Like I said yesterday, the system is broken. It doesn't help that individuals are making more mistakes but you can argue that the mistakes are a result of having to deal with more defensive actions too.

Klopp's system utilizes risk vs reward, and at this moment, the reward is definitely not worth the risk and I honestly don't see any benefit from whatever we're doing on the right side.

A couple of seasons ago, City started in a similar manner like us (granted the competition now is more fierce) with 11 points after 7 games, 1 more than Liverpool's current haul. Pep stopped trying to do anything creative, just went to basics. He forgone trying to utilize the wings, packed the middle and made sure that the team is more compact, they pressed less than other seasons and dropped deeper so that they won't tire in a compact schedule. Right now, Klopp needs to be pragmatic and do something similar, stop trying to reinvent the wheel. The squad needed reinforcement especially in midfield, but that's the hand that he has been dealt with and you got to adapt. Even the individual mistakes, are compounded by the fact that we have to deal with more defensive actions than past seasons. But if we play with the same naivety, trusting the same broken system, and expect the same results, then that's madness.

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Yep, just become compact again and start grinding results out until the World Cup. Then take it from there.

Alternatively, keep going 1-0 down after 5 minutes every week, be forever chasing games and need your keeper to be MOTM to keep the score down.

Unforgivable to throw that game away yesterday after battling back to 3-2. We were similar at the start of last season (chucked the game away at home to Brighton and at Brentford) and did become more compact when we went on a run after that.


--- Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on October  2, 2022, 06:24:09 pm ---Worked a treat yesterday.

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Henderson's just back from injury and also on a bit of a decline, I'd still have him in over Elliot but clearly the issue is the lack of signings. If we did sign a midfielder for that role in the summer though, I can't imagine we would've voluntarily gone with an almost out and out attacker like we have been in most matches.

Al 666:

--- Quote from: ThePoolMan on October  2, 2022, 03:48:41 pm ---The worrying thing is that despite the layoff enforced by the state funeral, these structural issues were not resolved and a more sustainable way of playing was not installed to fix the holes in our system. Why not? What is happening in the club currently?

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How is it structural ?

We had Thiago, Hendo, Keita, Jones and Ox who could play the 8 roles in our system.

Thiago and Hendo are just back from injury and the rest are injured.

It is personnel driven. I mean what was wrong with the system when Fab, Thiago and Keita destroyed City in the FA Cup semi final


--- Quote from: Gili Gulu on October  2, 2022, 12:20:28 pm ---Some players are coming to their natural end of effectiveness such as Bobby, Jordan and James Milner, but others are just plain underperforming.

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Bobby who has got 5 goals and 3 assists in 6 games?


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