Topic: Injury (and absence) related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)

[So… Howard Philips]

Yeah same with me. I started playing again aftyer 8 weeks but took a while to fully heal. Hoping it is similar with Diaz & nothing shows in the scan

You just know it won’t be something of nothing, not the eat this season is going.

[TepidT2O]

Anyone on here who has suffered the holy trinity of PCL, ACL and MCL injuries?

My sister did….

She did get back to first team football too.

[sinnermichael]

Diaz having surgery apparently. Out until March.

[Phineus]

So we opted against surgery, he came back to training but now needs surgery and is out for even longer?

[Clint Eastwood]

Negligence. Shite news.

[El Lobo]

If true that really is poor, just seem desperate to make things harder for ourselves

[Samie]

Ah fuck.

Our medical department needs a serious overhaul. 

[RedBec1993]

If that’s true, that’s so poor from us! How can we decide against surgery and now he needs surgery? Incompetence.

[MJD-L4]

Fucks sake. Serious questions over our medical department these days.

[TepidT2O]

If that’s true, that’s so poor from us! How can we decide against surgery and now he needs surgery? Incompetence.

That will have been the opinion of a specialist knee surgeon..

He may have a bit of cartlidge too or something

[RedBec1993]

That will have been the opinion of a specialist knee surgeon..

He may have a bit of cartlidge too or something

I mean the fact we have quite clearly rushed him back.

[Fromola]

Negligence. Shite news.

We've got no club doctor. We're trying to wing it with academy staff.

[TepidT2O]

I mean the fact we have quite clearly rushed him back.

Eh? Clearly?

How do you work that out?

[Nick110581]

It’s like we are run by amateurs

[RedBec1993]

Eh? Clearly?

How do you work that out?

Only had a club doctor for about 2 weeks haha 😂😂😂

[JasonF]

I mean the fact we have quite clearly rushed him back.

He's not been rushed back. Has been doing light training for weeks, building up his fitness. All injured players are doing rehab work, they aren't sat around playing Fifa.

He's obviously had a reaction, it can happen, knees are very complex. Easy to say he should have had surgury in the first place now but he will have seen a top knee surgeon and we'll have taken that advice at the time.

[classycarra]

That decision to extend the contract with the Zone7 AI injury prevention company is looking great. Those tech bros were selling woo

[Knight]

Yeah this critical of the club is silly. It’s specialist knee surgeons who will advise on whether surgery is the best call.

[zamagiure]

Out until March rumours.

[killer-heels]

You would imagine the decision not to operate came from an actual surgeon so not something you can blame the club. Or maybe we are using shit surgeons.

[amir87]

Are we allowed to be annoyed and feel sorry for him now?

[RedBec1993]

We’re just cursed aren’t we 🤣

[Chakan]

Wow that's really shit news, all these injuries can't just be on the players this season

[Rahul21]

Wow that's really shit news, all these injuries can't just be on the players this season

Something is clearly wrong within the medical dept. Shocking season.

[Ghost Town]

You would imagine the decision not to operate came from an actual surgeon so not something you can blame the club. Or maybe we are using shit surgeons.

Maybe they asked Nicola Sturgeon thinking she was a surgeon. Something's definitely fishy...

[Egyptian36]

If I'm not mistaken Diaz is not the only player who was allowed to get back to training only to suffer a setback. Did we make changes at our medical department the past two years ?

[PeterTheRed ...]

By James Pearce

Luis Diaz has left Liverpool’s training camp in Dubai after suffering a setback in his recovery from a knee injury.

The Colombia international only returned to parts of team training on Tuesday following eight weeks on the sidelines.

However, he since complained of discomfort in the same knee and the decision was taken for him to return to the UK. He will now undergo a scan to determine the extent of the problem with Jurgen Klopp facing an anxious wait.

Klopp said: “It’s all good [fitness-wise] with the boys who are here. What’s not good is we have to see with Lucho. He felt something and we need to have further assessment there, but apart from that they all look really, really good.”

The 25-year-old hasn’t featured since the defeat to Arsenal in early October and is now a major doubt for Liverpool’s festive schedule.

[Garnier]

No club does injury crisis quite like Liverpool Football Club

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Fucking gutted,our physio department is shit.

[4pool]

I think i'll wait for some official announcement before taking the Interweb version as gospel.

[GreatEx]

Now now, mustn't criticise the club unless we are surgeons with inside access to all the info, I mean just because we have loads of players who are injured most of the time and take way longer to come back than expected and frequently suffer "setbacks"...

[deano2727]

We seem to be pretty prudent when it comes to getting people in to improve specific areas whether it's transfers or throw ins. Hopefully we can pull something off here as it definitely seems like we are struggling in the medical department.

[JasonF]

Now now, mustn't criticise the club unless we are surgeons with inside access to all the info, I mean just because we have loads of players who are injured most of the time and take way longer to come back than expected and frequently suffer "setbacks"...

Who has taken way longer than expected?

You can blame Klopp, Ljinders, Kornmayer, the physios, the lack of a club doctor etc but none of those people would have been qualified to advise whether Díaz needed surgury or not. It's pointless trying to pin the blame on someone (maybe Partey).

[farawayred]

Spend the Bellingham money on a physio experts...

[Number 7]

I think i'll wait for some official announcement before taking the Interweb version as gospel.

Nothing to wait for mate. The guy that basically announced he was signing for Liverpool (Colombian reporter) has already said he needs surgery and is out until March.

[Number 7]

Massive blow to our chances of top 4 in my opinion. We were basically using the same 3 forwards for weeks before the break and now we’re back to that again and we have to get through the busy festive period when we actually can’t keep playing them all the time. It’s just not great is it. We just can’t catch a break with all these injuries. I don’t know whether it is the training methods, the medical department or what but it’s incredibly frustrating.

[farawayred]

Massive blow to our chances of top 4 in my opinion. We were basically using the same 3 forwards for weeks before the break and now we’re back to that again and we have to get through the busy festive period when we actually can’t keep playing them all the time. It’s just not great is it. We just can’t catch a break with all these injuries. I don’t know whether it is the training methods, the medical department or what but it’s incredibly frustrating.

It's not the only season that happened to us either... It seems like even muscle injuries are contagious at Liverpool...

We just signed a doctor, but I'd give him card blanche to revamp the physio / fitness / medical department, whatever is needed. We can't afford to have a team of Keitas, Chambos, Matips, jones, now Luchos...

[rob1966]

Some shite being posted in here. We use the top medical people we can and they don't just cut someone's body open for the sake of it, they're not butchers ffs. The medical staff will have looked at the scans, examined Luis and decided he didn't need surgery with the injury he had. Now, something else has happened and he now needs surgery. Shit happens.

[Egyptian36]

Some shite being posted in here. We use the top medical people we can and they don't just cut someone's body open for the sake of it, they're not butchers ffs. The medical staff will have looked at the scans, examined Luis and decided he didn't need surgery with the injury he had. Now, something else has happened and he now needs surgery. Shit happens.

it's not one-off. Happened to other players too. Rushed back only to suffer a setback.

[JackWard33]

Some shite being posted in here. We use the top medical people we can and they don't just cut someone's body open for the sake of it, they're not butchers ffs. The medical staff will have looked at the scans, examined Luis and decided he didn't need surgery with the injury he had. Now, something else has happened and he now needs surgery. Shit happens.

Happens consistently with our medical / sports science department is the problem - they’ve been awful for a decent amount of time now.
Most of us have zero medical knowledge but you can just compare our results to our rivals, it’s a massive problem for us