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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101920 on: August 24, 2020, 01:45:31 pm »
Can we keep out these youth players won't make int in this thread?

Don't want to hear it to be honest. It's tough enough for any youth player as it is. I just want to know how well they're doing etc.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101921 on: August 24, 2020, 05:06:52 pm »
Has anyone seen Koumetio playing for the youth teams?  Couldn't get a good idea of how quick he is in that limited time on the pitch, pace is such a crucial part of our defensive approach.
I watched all of his games that were On LFCTV last year, had his moments where he really looked like a kid in a mans body but overall very solid. It’s easy to forget sometimes when you see a lad that size that he’s 17 and in a new country, so you can forgive him a few brain fart moments (had a tendency to tune out/lose focus occasionally). Plus, it’s tough to stand out as a CB at u18 level as the games can be a tad...chaotic. Still dominated in the air and looked very comfortable on the ball.
It seems clear that he’s made pretty staggering progress over the past year.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101922 on: August 24, 2020, 05:21:43 pm »
Highlights of the U18 5-0 win over Crewe now on the web sight for those interested in catching glimpses of the new first year U18s cohort

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101924 on: August 24, 2020, 07:04:34 pm »
Highlights of the U18 5-0 win over Crewe now on the web sight for those interested in catching glimpses of the new first year U18s cohort
Made for some fun viewing that! Stewart just too good for this level, but great to get a glimpse at some of those who will be major players for the new look 18s.

Balagizi is really looking like he could be a Yaya Touré type midfielder, what a unit he is. Very skilled and always plays with his head up as well. We’ve played him in a number of different roles, from out wide to #6 and everywhere in between, but he definitely looks like he could be an incredible 8 if he stays fit and continues to develop at this rate.

Harvey Blair will be one to watch this year. We oddly enough have very few wide forward types in our academy setup, even though they are obviously a major feature in our first team. He looks like he’s got the pace and skill set to play that role though, has grown as well.

The new boy Musialowski could have bagged a hat trick in his second half cameo. The way he rolled those two massive Crewe defenders for his goal was wild. Looks like we could have a good one on our hands. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101925 on: August 24, 2020, 07:40:41 pm »
Frauendorf has LiverpooolFC on his Insta profile according to Twitter (looks like it but I don’t do insta, snapchat, tiktok or other shite)

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101926 on: August 24, 2020, 07:46:28 pm »
Frauendorf has LiverpooolFC on his Insta profile according to Twitter (looks like it but I don’t do insta, snapchat, tiktok or other shite)

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101927 on: August 24, 2020, 07:51:46 pm »
https://www.instagram.com/melhinjo11/
His Hoffenheim teammate Nick Breitenbucher was linked back in July when Frauendorf was as well, wonder if he’ll follow

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101928 on: August 25, 2020, 11:06:10 am »


The new boy Musialowski could have bagged a hat trick in his second half cameo. The way he rolled those two massive Crewe defenders for his goal was wild. Looks like we could have a good one on our hands.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101929 on: August 25, 2020, 11:10:21 am »
Are those U18 highlights knocking about anywhere for free?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101930 on: August 25, 2020, 12:17:37 pm »
Neil Jones saying Klopp has held two one-to-one training sessions with Koumetio, working on tactical understanding and positioning.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101931 on: August 25, 2020, 05:56:23 pm »
Neil Jones saying Klopp has held two one-to-one training sessions with Koumetio, working on tactical understanding and positioning.

Absolutely amazed at this lad, I have to say. You think of young talents at that age who have impressed over the years and honestly I can only think of Kompany having looked anywhere near as physically able at that age, combined with composure between the ears. That was in Champions League group games though - that's your caveat I guess - Koumetio's playing for us in pre-season. 

It's a funny one - when a young player breaks through and has that kind of power - Micah Richards was 17 and raw as could be, wasn't he?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101932 on: August 25, 2020, 06:12:08 pm »
Absolutely amazed at this lad, I have to say. You think of young talents at that age who have impressed over the years and honestly I can only think of Kompany having looked anywhere near as physically able at that age, combined with composure between the ears. That was in Champions League group games though - that's your caveat I guess - Koumetio's playing for us in pre-season. 

It's a funny one - when a young player breaks through and has that kind of power - Micah Richards was 17 and raw as could be, wasn't he?

You have to remember that Koumetio was playing in a makeshift defence. Put him in with VVD and Robertson to guide him and you should get a better idea of his ability.

As long as Milner doesn't tell him to 'Fuck Off' he'll be fine. :D

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101933 on: August 25, 2020, 06:49:45 pm »
Milner has been very aggressive lately.
I just love that this post is in this thread.   ;D

Yeah, Milner has been acting as both, a father figure and a teacher for the younger players. 
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101934 on: August 25, 2020, 08:14:55 pm »
Neil Jones saying Klopp has held two one-to-one training sessions with Koumetio, working on tactical understanding and positioning.
This sounds good, but it would be nice to know the context, ie does this happen with a lot of our young players or is Koumetio the only one Klopp's done this with? Not that it really matters, I'm just curious as it might provide an indication of just how highly Klopp rates him. As others have said, he does look really good, ridiculously good considering his age actually, but all I have to go on are these two preseason matches as I don't watch the youth sides these days.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101935 on: August 25, 2020, 08:59:51 pm »
I just love that this post is in this thread.   ;D

Yeah, Milner has been acting as both, a father figure and a teacher for the younger players.

Looks like he’s trying to end Tsmikas though.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101936 on: August 25, 2020, 09:32:01 pm »
Milner seems to be making sure new players have a welcome to the club and also keeping everyone on their toes to make sure no one goes big time and lets standards drop because we have won a title. Looks like great leadership to me and will probably be mirrored by Hendo when he returns.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101937 on: August 26, 2020, 12:07:57 am »
Looks like he’s trying to end Tsmikas though.

Yeah he almost killed him and helped daka get a third! Lol.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101938 on: August 26, 2020, 12:20:18 am »
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Liverpool complete signing of German youth international from Hoffenheim
Highly-rated 16-year-old Melkamu Frauendorf has completed his transfer to Liverpool

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-transfer-news-melkamu-frauendorf-18825038.amp
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101939 on: August 26, 2020, 08:42:06 am »
The Melkman always delivers the cream. And so forth.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101940 on: August 26, 2020, 08:50:13 am »
This sounds good, but it would be nice to know the context, ie does this happen with a lot of our young players or is Koumetio the only one Klopp's done this with? Not that it really matters, I'm just curious as it might provide an indication of just how highly Klopp rates him. As others have said, he does look really good, ridiculously good considering his age actually, but all I have to go on are these two preseason matches as I don't watch the youth sides these days.

Pretty sure I read this was because the club didn't want to push him too much (as he is still developing physically) with the heavy sessions the seniors are doing so they pulled him out of one session a day. Klopp took him to one side to do something different instead of him just being sat around.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101941 on: August 26, 2020, 04:17:07 pm »
Liverpool complete signing of German youth international from Hoffenheim
Highly-rated 16-year-old Melkamu Frauendorf has completed his transfer to Liverpool

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-transfer-news-melkamu-frauendorf-18825038.amp
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Seems a fancy way of saying that we're giving them money? Or is James Milner flying to Germany for a day to yell at some Hoffenheim U-18s?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101942 on: August 26, 2020, 04:22:52 pm »
What exactly does this line mean?Seems a fancy way of saying that we're giving them money? Or is James Milner flying to Germany for a day to yell at some Hoffenheim U-18s?

Its basically compensation for them for "educating" him for however many years he's been there.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101944 on: August 27, 2020, 11:53:17 pm »
https://youtu.be/DUaaexoPfgs

Extended highlights of the u23s game

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101945 on: August 27, 2020, 11:57:19 pm »
What exactly does this line mean?Seems a fancy way of saying that we're giving them money? Or is James Milner flying to Germany for a day to yell at some Hoffenheim U-18s?

It's like when over here it goes to a tribunal, but it's a set fee that UEFA have set. Think it's only a few hundred thousand.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101946 on: August 28, 2020, 12:19:25 am »
Isn't it a fixed fee of 250k when I youngster moves to a club in another country?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101947 on: August 28, 2020, 12:20:25 am »
Isn't it a fixed fee of 250k when I youngster moves to a club in another country?

Yeah it's something like that unless it's changed recently. Really isn't like over here between clubs where it's decided on a case by cases basis and can be millions.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101948 on: August 28, 2020, 04:54:00 am »
https://youtu.be/DUaaexoPfgs

Extended highlights of the u23s game

Thanks for this. From watching, I think I could identify:
Sepp Van den Berg
Remi Savage
Larouci
Woodburn
Elijah Dixon-Bonner
Jack Bearne
Liam Millar
Rhys Williams
Dal Varesanovic

Not sure who the #9 was (Awoniyi maybe? Didn’t look tall enough) or the #7. Anyone have any ideas? Could be a trialist situation? The 9 scored and they didn’t mention whoever it was on the official sites report, could support the trialist theory. The report on the site was so barebones it makes me wonder if we had a few involved that haven’t officially signed yet.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101949 on: August 28, 2020, 11:09:59 am »
Thanks for this. From watching, I think I could identify:
Sepp Van den Berg
Remi Savage
Larouci
Woodburn
Elijah Dixon-Bonner
Jack Bearne
Liam Millar
Rhys Williams
Dal Varesanovic

Not sure who the #9 was (Awoniyi maybe? Didn’t look tall enough) or the #7. Anyone have any ideas? Could be a trialist situation? The 9 scored and they didn’t mention whoever it was on the official sites report, could support the trialist theory. The report on the site was so barebones it makes me wonder if we had a few involved that haven’t officially signed yet.

Could be Awoniyi but pics of him suggest he is a much broader than the scorer on the vid.  I also saw Rhys Williams, Tom Clayton at CB in the second half (I recognised Rhys by his new hairstyle in the latest photo on the official website).  And Longstaff and Clarkson in the second half too.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101950 on: August 28, 2020, 11:19:14 am »
Thanks for this. From watching, I think I could identify:
Sepp Van den Berg
Remi Savage
Larouci
Woodburn
Elijah Dixon-Bonner
Jack Bearne
Liam Millar
Rhys Williams
Dal Varesanovic

I thought Larouci was leaving/had left already?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101951 on: August 28, 2020, 02:34:14 pm »
Surprised SVDB was there. He's been sent to play with the kids, whilst Koumetio, Phillips stay with the firsts, or is there another reason?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101952 on: August 28, 2020, 02:39:31 pm »
Surprised SVDB was there. He's been sent to play with the kids, whilst Koumetio, Phillips stay with the firsts, or is there another reason?
I think Sepp is firmly in with the u23s for this season. Koumetio will be as well, but I think he’s getting the extended look in with the first team that he hasn’t had before. Phillips will get a move of some kind I would expect.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101953 on: August 28, 2020, 02:39:52 pm »
Surprised SVDB was there. He's been sent to play with the kids, whilst Koumetio, Phillips stay with the firsts, or is there another reason?

He didn’t get any game time against Salzburg so maybe just for fitness?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101954 on: August 28, 2020, 02:40:09 pm »
I thought Larouci was leaving/had left already?

He’s said he isn’t going to sign a new deal so he’ll be getting a move. Hasn’t materialized yet though.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101955 on: August 28, 2020, 02:42:22 pm »
Could be Awoniyi but pics of him suggest he is a much broader than the scorer on the vid.  I also saw Rhys Williams, Tom Clayton at CB in the second half (I recognised Rhys by his new hairstyle in the latest photo on the official website).  And Longstaff and Clarkson in the second half too.
Good eye, yeah. Didn’t think it was Awoniyi either, must be a newbie of some kind (hence no name attributed to his goal). It’s been pretty quiet on the academy front so far in terms of news about coming and goings. Hopefully that changes soon and we get an idea of what the underage squads will look like.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101956 on: August 28, 2020, 02:50:00 pm »
5-0 win against Huddersfield for the u18s today. Frauendorf made his debut and scored. Harvey Blair with a brace (exciting prospect him), Sean Wilson and Tom Hill also scored.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101957 on: August 28, 2020, 03:31:38 pm »
5-0 win against Huddersfield for the u18s today. Frauendorf made his debut and scored. Harvey Blair with a brace (exciting prospect him), Sean Wilson and Tom Hill also scored.

Is Harvey a younger brother to Marley out of interest?   Marley appeared to join us a couple of years back then never played in the U18s, then left after a year.  He was also a forward/winger.  No idea why it didn’t work out for Marley but if he is a brother I guess there are no hard feelings. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101958 on: August 28, 2020, 04:16:02 pm »
Is Harvey a younger brother to Marley out of interest?   Marley appeared to join us a couple of years back then never played in the U18s, then left after a year.  He was also a forward/winger.  No idea why it didn’t work out for Marley but if he is a brother I guess there are no hard feelings.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #101959 on: August 28, 2020, 04:19:08 pm »
https://youtu.be/DUaaexoPfgs

Extended highlights of the u23s game

Recognised #4 as VDB, #10 was Bearne I think. 22# Larouci? Which other players had which number?