Topic: FC Barcelona

[Billy The Kid]

https://twitter.com/DonArjenFCB/status/1127919389637009410?s=19

Barca fans getting a little fed up of us.

 

Ha ha. The fucking state of that whopper

It's not our obligation to stop Madrid winning European cups you whiney shit merchant

Nor is it our fault that you're not good enough to stop them yourselves

Barca were European nobodies prior to 2006, and probably still would be had they never found Messi

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Probably a good time letting them know that game cost them another £4.4m 

Makes me think that they've no intention of selling him this summer.

[Red Beret]

Ha ha. The fucking state of that whopper

It's not our obligation to stop Madrid winning European cups you whiney shit merchant

Nor is it our fault that you're not good enough to stop them yourselves

Barca were European nobodies prior to 2006, and probably still would be had they never found Messi

Last time Messi came to Anfield he was a teenager.  That didn't work out so well for him either.

I'd have us offer Barca £80m for Messi, just to send their fans into meltdown.

[Mighty Zeus]

I'd have us offer Barca £80m for Messi, just to send their fans into meltdown.

First we have the other South American players saying publicly "Messi would fit in very well at Liverpool."

Fabinho, maybe. Or Robertson. "Of course Messi would improve any side, and the Kop would love him."

[cricketrocks]

"I don't hate gays, but..."

Wonder how he feels, playing for a club that just got royally buggered?

[Red Beret]

First we have the other South American players saying publicly "Messi would fit in very well at Liverpool."

Fabinho, maybe. Or Robertson. "Of course Messi would improve any side, and the Kop would love him."

I like the way you think.  The outrage cloud from Catalan would ground aircraft.

[arthur sarnoff]

First we have the other South American players saying publicly "Messi would fit in very well at Liverpool."

Fabinho, maybe. Or Robertson. "Of course Messi would improve any side, and the Kop would love him."

Oh, that's a plan.  Throw in Trent telling everyone he 'Has the Liverpool DNA', the Echo printing snide stories every day with made up quotes from his agent, his dog, his cleaner, 'sources close to the player', anyone they can think of.  I say do it all summer just for shits and giggles.  Fuck Barcelona and their self-righteous shite.

[thejbs]

He's up for sale from Barca. Maybe against his wishes? If so- he just drove the price way down! On purpose?

Putting the story out there to appeal to city's owners.

Seriously, though, what a prick. How does that shit go unchecked?

[Redcap]

Was a very useful player, without ever approaching the Gerrard / Suarez / Mane / Salah / Van Dijk / Alisson level of importance to the team. Replaced easily.

We haven't replaced him at all to be honest, but we are a better team for having reinvested the Coutinho money. Both things can be true.

I wouldn't mind having him back actually. Cheeky 30m bid and they don't have to pay any more of the performance-based extras.

Put in a transfer request, Phil. You won't find another club with three other Brazilians who are making the CL final every season

Putting the story out there to appeal to city's owners.

Seriously, though, what a prick. How does that shit go unchecked?

I expect Croatia is probably a less progressive country than the UK. That's probably how.

Not excusing it mind, but it's also not that surprising. I don't know that I'd care to find out what Lovren's views on LGBTIQ people either, frankly. You just don't want to ask famous people you like for their social or political views because while you might sometimes win (e.g. Klopp), other times you lose, and can't look at them the same way again.

[rob1966]

In my lifetime we've beaten them in Uefa cup semi-final in the treble season, last 16 in `07 and this year (don't care about the group stages in `02).

Basically Barca are our bitches.

I've got the 1976 semi as well in mine

We should really thank PSG buying Neymar from Barcelona.

Why?! He largely disappeared at Anfield and all. Same shithouse tactics as well. Watching Milner wipe him out in the first few minutes was one of this seasons many great joys.

They gave Barca £200 million in cash. Then, as Tepid says, Barca were suddenly desperate to buy someone and our very clever people tied them down over a barrel and humped the fuck out of them. PSG don't stump that money up, we don't sell him for such an inflated fee and use the cash to pay for Virgil and Allisson.

[Red Beret]

Oh, that's a plan.  Throw in Trent telling everyone he 'Has the Liverpool DNA', the Echo printing snide stories every day with made up quotes from his agent, his dog, his cleaner, 'sources close to the player', anyone they can think of.  I say do it all summer just for shits and giggles.  Fuck Barcelona and their self-righteous shite.

I'm sure Messi would just love to play for Jurgen Klopp.

[Doc Red]

It's ok to be not ok, by people being ok with people being not ok. Ok.

That was actually a surprisingly thoughtful sentence, Chopper.

[kaesarsosei]

There's an argument to taking Coutinho back, for the right money (£75m or less). I think we all agree we need another player of the calibre of Mane/Firmino/Salah, well even spending £50m is no guarantee of success but we know Coutinho can do it for us and even better, in those turgid home games against bottom half teams, we can play all 4. Plus, surely his motivation would never be higher.

[The G in Gerrard]

We aren't signing Coutinho

[Dim Glas]

There's an argument to taking Coutinho back, for the right money (£75m or less). I think we all agree we need another player of the calibre of Mane/Firmino/Salah, well even spending £50m is no guarantee of success but we know Coutinho can do it for us and even better, in those turgid home games against bottom half teams, we can play all 4. Plus, surely his motivation would never be higher.

there really isn't though.

Liverpool are a better team without him, thanks in part to what the did with the money selling him generated. But more than that, this is a better unit, a closer unit, and more of a team without him.  No longer having to pander to his skill set is a good thing. Not to say Coutinho wasn't really good here under Klopp, he was, but the team now is better. Whatever money it would take, would be far better spent eleswhere. And the club also wouldn't want to send a message that they'll re-sign a player who feigned an injury and tried to disrupt the teams qualification to the CL to push through a move.

So no, no argument for bringing him back.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

First we have the other South American players saying publicly "Messi would fit in very well at Liverpool."

Fabinho, maybe. Or Robertson. "Of course Messi would improve any side, and the Kop would love him."

Fabinho;"yes we talk all the time, Leo would fit in well here, he's already been looking at houses in West Derby prior to his move, Barca are keeping him against his will, violating his human rights, Liverpool DNA runs through his blood"

Did I manage to get a full house in Barcelona 'unsettling a player through the media' bingo?

[disgraced cake]

I wouldn't take him back. His season this year is the type you look at with a player that can totally derail his career until the end. He's only turning 27 soon and I think if Barca decide to sell him he's fucked. He still has the talent to do it but I'm not sure he'll have the will. Maybe he'll go to Juventus or PSG and sweep up trophies like I probably could playing in their leagues. I see people mention United but quite simply, he's not good enough to pick them out of the slumps himself.

Hard lines Phil, the grass isn't always greener 

[Red Beret]

Fabinho;"yes we talk all the time, Leo would fit in well here, he's already been looking at houses in West Derby prior to his move, Barca are keeping him against his will, violating his human rights, Liverpool DNA runs through his blood"

Did I manage to get a full house in Barcelona 'unsettling a player through the media' bingo?

You could add that here Messi wouldn't have to carry the team, and that he'd be surrounded by quality players with the will to win.

[gazzalfc]

I wouldn't have any dealings with Barca that would allow them to end the 3 year embargo on them signing another LFC player (well not embargo rather than an extra £89m 'premium clause on any player they attempt to buy from us until 2020). 

[CraigDS]

You could add that here Messi wouldn't have to carry the team, and that he'd be surrounded by quality players with the will to win.

"We'd offer him a better chance to win the CL again than if he stayed at Barcelona."

[Red Beret]

I wouldn't take him back. His season this year is the type you look at with a player that can totally derail his career until the end. He's only turning 27 soon and I think if Barca decide to sell him he's fucked. He still has the talent to do it but I'm not sure he'll have the will. Maybe he'll go to Juventus or PSG and sweep up trophies like I probably could playing in their leagues. I see people mention United but quite simply, he's not good enough to pick them out of the slumps himself.

Hard lines Phil, the grass isn't always greener 

His Liverpool career began in similar fashion as I recall. He fucked off just as things were getting good, leaving his career as one in permanent transition.

You rarely have to fight for your trophies at Real Madrid or Barcelona though. How many genuinely tough games do they have to play each season compared to us?

[glewis93]

Don't think there's any chance of us going back in for him. Wouldn't even want him now. We've got a group of lads willing to run through walls for Klopp and the fans. That mentality has to be universal through the squad, Coutinho showed he never had that mentality by forcing through his move.

He's tainted now as far as I'm concerned. Confidence has been shot and doesn't look like turning it around despite it being his dream to play for Barca. Not really the mentality we seem to look for in a player.

Barca could cash in on him and cut their losses but judging by performances, I can't see many willing to gamble on him for the extortionate price they will no doubt demand.

[Rush 82]

Phil is too weak for this Liverpool side. A boy amongst men.

Cheers Phil, enjoy living your dream.

[Mighty Zeus]

You could add that here Messi wouldn't have to carry the team, and that he'd be surrounded by quality players with the will to live.

I've had to fix that for you a little there

[Yorkykopite]

Fabinho;"yes we talk all the time, Leo would fit in well here, he's already been looking at houses in West Derby prior to his move, Barca are keeping him against his will, violating his human rights, Liverpool DNA runs through his blood"

Did I manage to get a full house in Barcelona 'unsettling a player through the media' bingo?

I'm afraid not.

Because Fabinho went on to say "Coutinho lives in a tower with his family who never speak to anyone. Instead they just wave at the Suarez family in their adjacent tower."

[TepidT2O]

We aren't signing Coutinho

You are a thieving bastard. 

But correct

[Red Beret]

I've had to fix that for you a little there

Re Coutinho, Barca face a tough choice.  They're never going to make back the money they splashed on him (lol thanks again btw) so they either persevere and hope he comes good or jump ship on him now.  And Barcelona is not a patient side.

I honestly don't understand why they were so desperate to sign him in the first place that they were prepared to pay so much.  Klopp's team arguably made him look much better than he is.  He was a player amongst equals in our team, but Barca had Messi; Phil was never, ever going to be on a level to justify what Barca paid for him.  If Phil was worth €150m then Messi is worth double that.

[Sheer Magnetism]

I don't think it's that hard to understand, he was a phenomenally creative attacking midfielder with a terrific passing range who could dribble, or score from 30 yards out if he has space, and was scoring at a rate of almost one in two the last 18 months he was here (with one assist in three). If you look at his stats for the first half of last season, they were staggering. He just doesn't seem to fit in with a team built around King Messi, that's all.

[Yorkykopite]

Coutinho needed to succeed Messi not Iniesta. I'm not saying he's anywhere near as good as Messi (no one is or ever has been), but he operated at Liverpool as our 'go to' man whenever we were having problems breaking teams down. We saw it loads of times - the team funnelling the ball to Phil. We're a more rounded team now that he's left. But at Nou Camp Coutinho is a marginal figure, no longer at the centre of things, and unlikely to ever be so.

Quite why this has provoked the hatred of the Barcelona supporters I don't know.  They obviously know fuck all about football. And did you see how deserted their ground was at the weekend? Less than a club. More like a shopping mall.

[Red Beret]

I don't think it's that hard to understand, he was a phenomenally creative attacking midfielder with a terrific passing range who could dribble, or score from 30 yards out if he has space, and was scoring at a rate of almost one in two the last 18 months he was here (with one assist in three). If you look at his stats for the first half of last season, they were staggering. He just doesn't seem to fit in with a team built around King Messi, that's all.

that's my point though.  He was NEVER going to replicate that kind of form for a club like Barcelona, but nobody at Barca seemed to realise that.

As usual one of these "big" clubs saw a player pulling up trees and just decided they wanted them.  And they knew they would get him, for no other reason than who they were.  It was the ultimate "Because I can" move.  Now he looks like nothing but a very ill judged, flavour of the month vanity purchase.

Made absolutely no footballing or financial sense to spend that much money on a player that will be sharing a team with Messi - unless it's effing Messi!  Screwed them good and proper we did - they just splashed the cash on a player they obviously had no clear idea on how they were going to use.  They just seemed to plop him into their side and expect him to carry on like nothing had happened.

[eyescream]

I don't know if this has been posted 
Someone uploaded it to LFC subreddit.

https://youtu.be/1YUJnlVid4c

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Griezmann told atletico board he’s off, looks like he’s barca bound so they’ve probably found a buyer for little phil

[Dim Glas]

Griezmann told atletico board he’s off, looks like he’s barca bound so they’ve probably found a buyer for little phil

Is he sparing everyone that embarrassing 'The Decision' thing this time?

[Kopenhagen]

Griezmann told atletico board he’s off, looks like he’s barca bound so they’ve probably found a buyer for little phil

Watch him go to Utd.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Is he sparing everyone that embarrassing 'The Decision' thing this time?

hes done a short video on the atletico twitter

[Dim Glas]

hes done a short video on the atletico twitter

that's better!

I wonder how much Barca will be paying them, does he have a buy-out at Atletico?

 

[cissesbeard]

Griezmann told atletico board he’s off, looks like he’s barca bound so they’ve probably found a buyer for little phil

Swap deal?

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Not sure how he fits considering they also have dembele.

Griezman Suarez Messi


Griezman can play wide but he's much more of a central player

[Red Beret]

Swap deal?

Player plus cash?

[Agent99]

So the Dembele to Liverpool rumours can start again now