Topic: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)

[NarutoReds]

Chelsea are good and might have a big chance in title challenge this season.

Their defence is well drilled and organised.

But aa... Is it just me or Azpilicueta is a C*NT? Seriously.

[jonnypb]

I think some people in here need to fuck off and go support Everton, or go support one of the oil rig teams. Yes it was disappointing not to get 3 points against a 10 Chelsea, but there were plenty of positives from the game and what a player Harvey is going to be. 3 games in, unbeaten and plenty of dick heads about already.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

We pulled our punches and were not bold enough. That ball needs that net

To give plastic scum some credit, their shape in the 2nd half was good and compact but we need to find ways around this as it's how shithouses play and it's not new to us.

Our defence looked sharp, our attack looked blunt. Mo with a blank 

Someone lobbed a bottle of piss though 

mo with a blank what? I'm fairly sure he scored a goal today?

Their shape is good, they don't concede many under Tuchel, they're not easy to play against.

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

Tuchel is an excellent coach,  good buy in from the team,  very well organised with ten.  We weren't composed enough second half,  kept trying to find the killer pass / cross rather than tire out the Chelsea players before striking.  Against an organised opponent you make it easier for them.

Robertson could've been subbed earlier,  high time there is more rotation there.  Let Robertson recover properly.

Chelsea will celebrate the point more but we do a lot of things well to gain points in this league.  Van Dijk handled his challenges well but need to see him sprint a bit more,  get tested over a number of games,  before you can be confident he's completely over the injury.

[Thepooloflife]

Ironically still playing against 11 men even when the sending off happened.

This bullshit that 'soft fouls' aren't given and the 'referee was letting things flow' starkly shown up by the match stats of Liverpool supposedly committing 12 'fouls' (No bookings, so all soft) and Chelsea supposedly commiting 3 fouls.


There is the difference right there in plain black and white.

Yep - two words.....Anthony Taylor

[Libertine]

He wont be playing against Van Dijk and Matip every week.

True. But the media/pundits this week would have you believe that Virgil & Matip were goign to struggle big time against him. Only struggle was deciding whose pocket they were going to keep him in.

[rob1966]

And I see the crying arsed dickheads are out in force in this thread, well done.

[RedSince86]

Anthony Taylor is a C*nt.

[SerbianScouser]

Sometimes you got to give credit to the opposition.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Henderson and Robbo looked rusty, but thats understandable.

Our set piece delivery though, just awful and unacceptable

Unacceptable 

[kennedy81]

We finished the game with an almost identical shape / set up as we started it …. Bizarre

Desperately need more firepower from the bench in the squad

Could have done with Bobby second half, then bring Jota on later as they tired and the game got stretched. I presume that was the plan. The sending off and Bobby coming off changed that.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Did either test the keeper? one weak shot from a tired player. We never looked like scoring.

Not testing the keeper doesn't mean it's not a good fucking chance. We didn't test the keeper because Salah didn't strike the ball well enough but it was a clear fucking good chance given his quality and the quality of said chance.

[red1977]

Good enough. Not an easy game and, look at that pressing, we played in Chelsea’s half, really good, more to come.

[masher]

Draw is probably a fair result. Other than Henderson and Elliott’s chance in the first half we did not create much. Chelsea created the better chances than us I thought. A little disappointed to be honest, but it’s not the worst result in the world.

[kennedy81]

Henderson and Robbo looked rusty, but thats understandable.

Our set piece delivery though, just awful and unacceptable

Yeah, our corners weren't great.

[free_at_last]

For sure, made even worse by the fact he was shoving and butting at every corner and was given a mere warning with five minutes left

Manc Taylor very happy to buy that one

[RyanBabel19]

How is the ref falling for a player in the box falling and grabbing his face screaming

Jorginho as well. Spent 90 minutes throwing himself to the floor screaming and the ref bought each and every one

[deFacto please, you bastards]

We also had to be cautious because they're really good in transitions, even with ten men, you have to keep that in mind when you're going gung ho against a side like that.

Fuck knows which world some of yous are living in

[Sarge]

We were poor. Cant play like that against a rival with 10 men, so many chances to show fight and so many picked the wrong option time and again or just gave the ball away

Yet you say it was embarrassing, please.

[Rush 82]

Wish people would stop saying that feels like a loss - it doesn't - if feels like a draw (which it is)

[fallenhd]

What do you mean? Didn't we win ten games in a row at the end of last season?

We did, thankfully but for large parts of last season even during the ten game run we had this problem. Take West Brom when Allison scored. Alot of the attention was on the last min goal but the fact was before that moment, we were doing the same things that won't working today.

[macmanamanaman]

Yeah, our corners weren't great.

We overdo the outswinging corners usually.
Don't understand why inswingers are not better, to make some pinball happen   and keep the ball alive in the box.

[Avens]

Sobering. 2nd best at home.

Massive overreaction in here and this just isn't true. Yes, we struggled to break down the 10 men but when they all sit deep and focus purely on defending it's likely to be difficult, especially against such a high quality defence.

Frustrating but far from sobering or embarrassing as some are claiming.

[Damian V]

but rentboys lay down for nothing

Can we not?

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Some absolute bellendry in this fucking thread. ''embarrassing and out fought'', as if we weren't playing the side who just won the CL several months ago, whilst barely conceding a goal.

[Knight]

Need another attacker. We did before this game and another one of the required quality may well not have changed anything but it’d be nice to have genuine options in the front 3 spots. Firmino going off injured didn’t help but we brought on a deep lying 8 and a LB when looking for a goal…

[bornandbRED]

We were really, really poor second half - they had the better chances even. Two points dropped and I thought Chelsea look a real side. Not sure why Thiago comes on so late.

Been saying it since last December but Mane looks cooked at this juncture (and Firmino not far behind). Couldn’t even beat Jorginho 1v1. Wonder how long we will wait before acting on/accepting that.

[Trendisnotdestiny]

Quite a few players had stinkers. But I think what was more alarming was the fact that we struggled to take advantage of the extra man. If it was City, they would have carved them into pieces, spamming their extremely effective cutbacks from the byline. Mane's drop-off is actually pretty bad right now imo. He's still a fantastic player but he's just not the same.

Our inability to break them down in the offensive third.  New personnel.  New year.   Same kinds of opportunities - against a good compact defense sitting in absorbing pressure.

We needed more in the middle of their two banks (in between their backs and middies) --- poor penetration and too much French pastry with Salah flicks) - it should have gone inside centrally into the gap then outside for whipped ball and then crash.

Not enough of it -- what is interesting was that Matip was our most effective penetrator in that space in the middle --- we need someone like a David Silva who can play in those central spaces and exploit time and space - that did not happen and when it did Mane and Salah were not good enough at combination for the play to come off.

A lot of this happened last year if I recall.  Maybe this will lead Edwards to consider a purchase of an attacker, if he isn't already inclined?

[ToneLa]

mo with a blank what? I'm fairly sure he scored a goal today?

Pen was good.

He had a shot at about 85 that was misfired indeed

[BER]

Wish people would stop saying that feels like a loss - it doesn't - if feels like a draw (which it is)

A full half against ten men and failing to really create a chance it feels like a shit result.

[RyanBabel19]

Yet you say it was embarrassing, please.

Getting outfought for any significant period by 10 men is embarassing. If you create chances and it's just not your day, lucks not on your side etc fair play, that happens at some point. Letting players beat you to the ball time and again, getting bypassed by a side you are tiring out by having the majority of possession is embarassing. We should have been a lot better than that. You've got some seasoned pros making silly and lazy challenges while Elliott works tirelessly for 90 minutes

[Damian V]

These sat deeper than anybody probably will at Anfield bar the odd exception. And they have world class players. Thought Rudiger was excellent for them. It feels like dropped points as we were playing v 10 men mainly.

[Rush 82]

Sometimes you got to give credit to the opposition.

Is correct.


They defended very very well after going down to 10 men

[gerrardsarmy]

Still a point better than last season!

[12Kings]

Hahaha every time……. Fucking hell, it’s Chelsea.  Who have stealthily be spending a fortune over the last 2-3 years… they went a man down and parked the bus, it’s hard enough for the best teams to even break down the likes of Burnley when they play like this way (every week) so is it easier against Chelsea? I’m completely fine with this result, their manager wants to be Klopp but he is  Klopp Lite, he’ll never be Klopp, he’s gone too and come from a club with an endless pot of gold.

[Macphisto80]

I think we need a different kind of striker as back up. Saying that, Trent never put a decent ball in all game.

[Trendisnotdestiny]

Wish people would stop saying that feels like a loss - it doesn't - if feels like a draw (which it is)

Definitely - well said.   Losing is where we were after 25 minutes.   We put ourselves in a position to win, but did not meet the moment (stupid fouls, mistimed crosses, turnovers, tired legs and some poor choices in the final third did us in).

It was there.  We just didn't take it.  Credit to the defense for enduring adversity.

[Oskar]

We were really, really poor second half - they had the better chances even. Two points dropped and I thought Chelsea look a real side. Not sure why Thiago comes on so late.

Been saying it since last December but Mane looks cooked at this juncture (and Firmino not far behind). Couldn’t even beat Jorginho 1v1. Wonder how long we will wait before acting on/accepting that.

We are acting on it, we want him to sign a new contract - you must be seeing something that the club isn't.

[jonnypb]

And I see the crying arsed dickheads are out in force in this thread, well done.

Exactly, it’s embarrassing. Anyone would think we’d just lost 5-0 to Arsenal, not that we just a point against the current European champions who put in a very good defensive performance…. Yes we should/could have won against 10 men, but 3 games in, unbeaten and people wetting their beds.

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

I think we need a different kind of striker as back up. Saying that, Trent never put a decent ball in all game.

First half to Hendo.