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naYoRHa2b · « **Reply #88 on:** September 28, 2021, 07:09:18 pm »

Yeah I'm looking forward to that. Need summat new. Hope it's good.

KillieRed · « **Reply #89 on:** September 29, 2021, 09:18:48 am »

I hope they fix that garbage spotting that was in BFV. Permanently being spotted and always getting shot through terrain made me go back to BF1.

dalarr · « **Reply #90 on:** September 29, 2021, 11:43:16 am »

I would have been all over this if I had a ps5, which I don’t. Old gen consoles won’t do this game justice.

LOKKO · « **Reply #91 on:** October 5, 2021, 10:05:31 am »

Just downloading the beta now

gerrardisgod · « **Reply #92 on:** October 5, 2021, 10:14:43 am »

Is it available today? Thought it was Thursday, sweet.

naYoRHa2b · « **Reply #93 on:** October 5, 2021, 10:42:47 am »

Quote from: gerrardisgod on October 5, 2021, 10:14:43 am

Is it available today? Thought it was Thursday, sweet.

It's tomorrow if you've pre ordered. You can pre-load it now though

LOKKO · « **Reply #94 on:** October 6, 2021, 08:28:14 pm »

Appart from the occasional server errors I'm really enjoying this takes me back to battlefield 3 & 4

scatman · « **Reply #95 on:** October 6, 2021, 08:49:15 pm »

feels too slow to me and there's loads of issues, apparently this isn't even a proper beta, not sure I want this game

naYoRHa2b · « **Reply #96 on:** October 6, 2021, 08:58:10 pm »

I'm pretty positive with it. I mean the beta is rough as hell, lots of graphical glitches and just wonky performance but i think the map size, the ability to customise your loadout so you aren't restricted to certain weapons for different classes but still retain a unique ability is nice. Changing your attachments on the fly...eh not really a fan of, can't see me using that too much and it's annoying having to do it all the time.

I can't even pull the map up though which is annoying, especially if your trying to orientate yourself on a map you've never played before.

RedSince86 · « **Reply #97 on:** October 6, 2021, 09:59:29 pm »

Quote from: dalarr on September 29, 2021, 11:43:16 am

I would have been all over this if I had a ps5, which I don’t. Old gen consoles won’t do this game justice.

I was watching Faze Jev playing it earlier and he has a top gaming rig and complaining his rig was to warm and loud, he said if you have a PS4 do not bother playing this game.

KillieRed · « **Reply #98 on:** October 7, 2021, 09:17:25 am »

It seems a little expensive?

I bought Hell Let Loose via CDKeys instead. I`ll wait and see how BF2042 develops.

Crimson · « **Reply #99 on:** October 7, 2021, 04:58:18 pm »

Beta buggy as hell. Think they should have chosen a different map for it, but anyway... looking forward to the full game. Uninstalled the demo after two rounds

Hedley Lamarr · « **Reply #100 on:** October 7, 2021, 07:07:13 pm »

Not overly impressed, think Im just going to wait for Halo

Crimson · « **Reply #101 on:** October 7, 2021, 08:10:49 pm »

Quote from: KillieRed on October 7, 2021, 09:17:25 am

It seems a little expensive?

I bought Hell Let Loose via CDKeys instead. I`ll wait and see how BF2042 develops.

Grinds my gears that the physical disc is waaay cheaper than the digital version. Surely production costs are more expensive the other way around? I guess it's just because they get all the income themselves through their own online stores

Hedley Lamarr · « **Reply #102 on:** October 8, 2021, 06:59:54 am »

Quote from: Crimson on October 7, 2021, 08:10:49 pm

Grinds my gears that the physical disc is waaay cheaper than the digital version. Surely production costs are more expensive the other way around? I guess it's just because they get all the income themselves through their own online stores

But then you can trade the disc in and they get fuck all from the next person that buys it. Physical being cheaper than digital makes sod all sense.

Kashinoda · « **Reply #103 on:** October 8, 2021, 02:09:55 pm »

They have way too much shit to sort before November 19th. Needs another 6 months in the oven.

EA won't allow that obviously.

KillieRed · « **Reply #104 on:** October 8, 2021, 03:59:24 pm »

Quote from: Kashinoda on October 8, 2021, 02:09:55 pm

They have way too much shit to sort before November 19th. Needs another 6 months in the oven.

EA won't allow that obviously.

It`ll be rushed out for christmas and they`ll soak up the moans of all the people who have bought it, doing little incremental improvements until it`s time to push the next game.

scatman · « **Reply #105 on:** October 8, 2021, 11:00:00 pm »

Quote from: Hedley Lamarr on October 7, 2021, 07:07:13 pm

Not overly impressed, think Im just going to wait for Halo

yep just sticking to warzone until Halo is out

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #106 on:** October 9, 2021, 11:16:58 pm »

Worst Battlefield I've played. It really isn't sure what it wants to be. Feels more like Fortnight than Battlefield, which is shocking.

They're looking 70 quid for this? LOL

J-Mc- · « **Reply #107 on:** October 10, 2021, 01:49:34 am »

Everyone does realise it’s a two month old build right?

A lot of the issues will already be fixed by now if not by release.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #108 on:** October 10, 2021, 03:04:12 am »

It's not the bugs. BF3 had its fair share of those when its beta released. It's just...the game is shit. It's got massive issues that extend beyond a few graphical glitches.

J-Mc- · « **Reply #109 on:** October 10, 2021, 09:32:19 am »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on October 10, 2021, 03:04:12 am

It's not the bugs. BF3 had its fair share of those when its beta released. It's just...the game is shit. It's got massive issues that extend beyond a few graphical glitches.

Such as? Because comparing it to Fortnite is laughable mate.

dalarr · « **Reply #110 on:** October 10, 2021, 12:23:38 pm »

Quote from: RedSince86 on October 6, 2021, 09:59:29 pm

I was watching Faze Jev playing it earlier and he has a top gaming rig and complaining his rig was to warm and loud, he said if you have a PS4 do not bother playing this game.

My good old PlayStation gets warm and loud if I look in its general direction

I’ve never played BF before and enjoyed the beta, but if top notch gaming rigs are struggling, then my console won’t survive.

Schmidt · « **Reply #111 on:** October 10, 2021, 01:05:45 pm »

Quote from: J-Mc- on October 10, 2021, 01:49:34 am

Everyone does realise it’s a two month old build right?

A lot of the issues will already be fixed by now if not by release.

Sorry but that's damage control nonsense, there's no way they would leave a build sat there for months in that state and not merge as many bug fixes into it as possible. Yes betas are for load testing and such, but they also throw a lot of marketing budget at the game around the time of the beta, there's no way they would put such a shoddy build out if they had something significantly better.

Regardless of bugs, I really didn't enjoy it. The player count has doubled yet the map is so full of empty space that it feels like there are fewer players somehow. Objectives are just a small cluster of basic buildings with little cover, the movement speed is absurd (someone clocked sprinting at around 22mph). Team work is nonexistent, tons and tons of features have been removed (back proning, squad spawn cam, leaning around corners, vehicle entry animations, blast knockback, etc) and the whole game is just about random chaos.

I didn't really play BFV as I didn't enjoy it when I tried it shortly after launch, but I gave it a try yesterday and it's night and day. Despite not being a huge fan of the WW2 setting, you play it and it instantly feels like a Battlefield game, you're sticking close to your squad, helping each other out, forming battle lines, trying to force the enemy back. 2042 feels like an attempt to compete with CoD.

Crimson · « **Reply #112 on:** October 10, 2021, 03:22:34 pm »

Quote from: Schmidt on October 10, 2021, 01:05:45 pm

I didn't really play BFV as I didn't enjoy it when I tried it shortly after launch, but I gave it a try yesterday and it's night and day. Despite not being a huge fan of the WW2 setting, you play it and it instantly feels like a Battlefield game, you're sticking close to your squad, helping each other out, forming battle lines, trying to force the enemy back. 2042 feels like an attempt to compete with CoD.

I really, really don't understand why they're removing functionality we're used to from BFV. I agree with the CoD comparison, it really did feel like a CoD game on a larger scale.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #113 on:** October 10, 2021, 06:37:36 pm »

Quote from: J-Mc- on October 10, 2021, 09:32:19 am

Such as? Because comparing it to Fortnite is laughable mate.

It's not. It's got that hero shooter element they desperately want to have in there. More colour for the sake of colour, and the UI is just god awful. The grappling hook thing too. They're aiming this more towards that crowd that got into Fortnight and have grown up a bit. It's lost its identity.

Kashinoda · « **Reply #114 on:** October 14, 2021, 05:40:00 pm »

The Fortnight shout is off. This is EA looking at Apex Legends and wondering how they milk Battlefield the same way, to a lesser extent War Zone is an obvious influence.

I think they're somewhat aware of this as it appears to be 3 seperate games in one package.

Portal: For everyone who loves Battlefield, ditch the specialists crap. Play on new and old maps with any combo of weapons and vehicles you want.
Hazard Zone: A Tarkov clone for those who love BR type games.
All Out War: Because they need to sell the game.

I'm still excited about Portal, it's the first time we've had any sort of modding support since BF4. It's no surprise DICE LA (now Ripple Effect) made it. DICE Stockholm don't have a clue any more.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #115 on:** October 14, 2021, 09:17:24 pm »

Well, Apex, Fortnite, Overwatch, COD whatever...it's all the same thing. FPS's designed to be monetised to fuck and get as much out players as possible before they realise just what a shallow husk of a game they are playing it really is and ditch it and move on to the next thing. Those specialists are clearly designed to be heavily monetised for cosmetics. It's the only logical reason why they exist in the game, because they certainly aren't in there for any kind of game design reason. Another thing that DICE and EA were chasing when they sat down and planned this game was battle royal modes. Hence the strong Fortnite influence. This isn't Battlefield anymore. It's a game designed to follow trends and capture fanbases based on what other franchises were doing that made them money.

Schmidt · « **Reply #116 on:** October 15, 2021, 10:40:31 am »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on October 14, 2021, 09:17:24 pm

Well, Apex, Fortnite, Overwatch, COD whatever...it's all the same thing. FPS's designed to be monetised to fuck and get as much out players as possible before they realise just what a shallow husk of a game they are playing it really is and ditch it and move on to the next thing. Those specialists are clearly designed to be heavily monetised for cosmetics. It's the only logical reason why they exist in the game, because they certainly aren't in there for any kind of game design reason. Another thing that DICE and EA were chasing when they sat down and planned this game was battle royal modes. Hence the strong Fortnite influence. This isn't Battlefield anymore. It's a game designed to follow trends and capture fanbases based on what other franchises were doing that made them money.

Specialists make some sense in Hazard Zone, it seems like they've compromised the core gameplay to create these three separate modes they feel can please all of their target demographics with for maximum profits. The main game is now for the CoD/Apex crowd, Portal is the last straw the core fanbase is grasping at and Hazard Zone is an attempt at getting that BR/Tarkov/Hunt crowd. I think too many people are expecting Portal to be too many things though, unless it's the greatest feature DICE have ever created it's going to disappoint.

The Tarkov comparison is pretty lazy though, it's such an in depth game compared to what looks like a very shallow and repetitive loop. You can already see that EA marketing have told all of their content creator influencers/shills to parrot the line "It's like Tarkov/Hunt" at every opportunity though, that comparison is going to stick around for a while.

Kashinoda · « **Reply #117 on:** October 15, 2021, 02:01:03 pm »

The thing that's missing with Portal is dedicated servers. It's good that EA will provide you with your own free server but once the last person leaves the instance finishes. For such a community focused project it's a bit of a miss.

I don't expect it to be ground breaking but it does essentially have the most content:

13 Maps total (which is more than any BF has launched with?)
All the specialists, guns and vehicles form the new game.
Battlefield 3 classes, weapons and vehicles
Battlefield 1942 classes, weapons and vehicles
Free server hosting* (see above) with full admin controls
A dedicated logic editor for scriping/light modding
Existing game modes (i.e. Rush) plus anything else the community comes up with

Just has to work then its a hit for me, everything else aside.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #118 on:** October 15, 2021, 07:02:32 pm »

Quote from: Schmidt on October 15, 2021, 10:40:31 am

Specialists make some sense in Hazard Zone, it seems like they've compromised the core gameplay to create these three separate modes they feel can please all of their target demographics with for maximum profits. The main game is now for the CoD/Apex crowd, Portal is the last straw the core fanbase is grasping at and Hazard Zone is an attempt at getting that BR/Tarkov/Hunt crowd. I think too many people are expecting Portal to be too many things though, unless it's the greatest feature DICE have ever created it's going to disappoint.

The Tarkov comparison is pretty lazy though, it's such an in depth game compared to what looks like a very shallow and repetitive loop. You can already see that EA marketing have told all of their content creator influencers/shills to parrot the line "It's like Tarkov/Hunt" at every opportunity though, that comparison is going to stick around for a while.

Yeah, I made that post before seeing what they were doing with the rest of the game. I'm not sure what's worse, really, and it still doesn't change the overall impression I got from it. I mean, whenever you compromise anything to try to please everyone, you invariably end up with something that really pleases no one. The jury is still out, but I seriously can't see this ending up being a sustainable strategy. I knew the gameplay felt odd, or off. Like it was a mixed bag of everything and trying too much all at once. One of the modes might end up being fun, but this thing costs 70 quid, and that's not going to cut it for the hardcore fanbase. Can see a lot of the core fans of the series giving up on it pretty quickly.

Schmidt · « **Reply #119 on:** October 16, 2021, 08:05:24 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on October 15, 2021, 07:02:32 pm

Yeah, I made that post before seeing what they were doing with the rest of the game. I'm not sure what's worse, really, and it still doesn't change the overall impression I got from it. I mean, whenever you compromise anything to try to please everyone, you invariably end up with something that really pleases no one. The jury is still out, but I seriously can't see this ending up being a sustainable strategy. I knew the gameplay felt odd, or off. Like it was a mixed bag of everything and trying too much all at once. One of the modes might end up being fun, but this thing costs 70 quid, and that's not going to cut it for the hardcore fanbase. Can see a lot of the core fans of the series giving up on it pretty quickly.

Yeah I think the CoD crowd will quickly get sick of running half a mile between fights, and the BR/Hunt/Tarkov fans will tire of what looks like a really shallow loop in Hazard Zone. The one big question mark is Portal, if it can genuinely provide something close to a BF3 remastered experience then I think it could become the new home for a lot of BF fans, however that's a huge if right now.