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Re: The Fall
« Reply #400 on: June 15, 2021, 03:17:29 pm »


Mark E Smith as a Pixar character
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #401 on: July 5, 2021, 11:37:00 pm »


Mark E Smith as a Pixar character

Creepy  ;D



This week, I've been mostly listening to Shift-Work (1991 I think, tho if not I'll delete this and edit it out

Had it for years, listened to it, enjoyed it, listened again etc. Big gap tho as an album to truly celebrate till the other day... it's pretty crammed with Fall classics... but it's strength lies in its ability to just lay down on a horizontal level for about 45 minutes. There's meat on the bone for sure... the Lot of Wind Track for instance... which for years could never be beaten than on their live MTV version (possibly my favourite Fall footage of all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHlT38XZzO8), but they are in a glorious 3rd gear  throughout.


A pitchfork review of Rose read: "Rose" is bleepy, sunny filler'. Nonsense


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Re: The Fall
« Reply #402 on: July 6, 2021, 12:28:24 am »
Hey Filler saw this, made me chuckle 🙂 (sorry don’t know how to embed vids)

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #403 on: July 6, 2021, 11:52:28 pm »
Hey Filler saw this, made me chuckle 🙂 (sorry don’t know how to embed vids)

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Enjoyed that ;D :thumbup

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #404 on: July 7, 2021, 09:54:03 am »


Mark E Smith as a Pixar character

Fuh Fuh fuh Frozennnn-aah!
Delineated Princess adventure-ah
She pays-uh mates rates-uh! 
Fuh fuh fuh Frozennnn-uhhh

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #405 on: July 9, 2021, 10:02:24 pm »
Last song on side A before you flip it over to hear B1: Blindness on Fall Heads Roll: Bo Demmick

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #406 on: July 13, 2021, 10:55:05 pm »
Last song on side A before you flip it over to hear B1: Blindness on Fall Heads Roll: Bo Demmick

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #407 on: July 14, 2021, 09:14:16 am »
I see that Are You Are Missing Winner is reissued on Friday by Cherry Red
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #408 on: July 29, 2021, 02:36:52 am »
The Fall - Leave the Capitol (from "Live at St Helens Technical College '81")

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #409 on: August 18, 2021, 10:38:58 pm »
It's my 50th this Saturday - so if you'd like to chip in, I'm after the following:


    Dragnet (1979)



    Perverted by Language (1983) - Better copy



    Code: Selfish (1992)
    The Infotainment Scan (1993)
    Middle Class Revolt (1994)

   

    Cerebral Caustic (1995)

    Levitate (1997)
    The Marshall Suite (1999)
    The Unutterable (2000) - I think

    The Real New Fall LP (Formerly Country on the Click) (2003) IM me

    Reformation Post TLC (2007)
    Imperial Wax Solvent (2008) maybe

    Ersatz GB (2011)
    Re-Mit (2013)


On original vinyl please ;)

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edit: I may have some of those but I'm old and not 100%

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #410 on: August 20, 2021, 10:49:09 pm »
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #411 on: August 26, 2021, 08:52:37 am »
Happy belated birthday Rob

Loads of cheap live ones here

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #412 on: August 26, 2021, 06:58:15 pm »
I'M INTO CB

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #413 on: August 29, 2021, 08:53:04 pm »
Paint Work*

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One of my favourite Fall songs. Will be endlessly staggering to me how this song sounds about 4000 times better nestled inside the running order of this great album. * edit: try it.

Side B on this album alone is something else. This track is 2nd song on side 2... a vital batting position.

Tell a lie... it's 3rd. Point stands.


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Re: The Fall
« Reply #414 on: August 29, 2021, 08:55:44 pm »
It's not called Paintwork... It's Paint Work. It's very different OK? ;D

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #415 on: August 29, 2021, 09:05:35 pm »
Am failing badly in trying to upload an image of the inside cover of the gatefold which clearly shows the words Paint and Work separated by a 100th of a centimeter but i'll try and rectify this later.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #416 on: August 29, 2021, 09:11:40 pm »
* edit: try it.


Again?

Let's do it brother!

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #417 on: August 29, 2021, 09:22:03 pm »
The on-going Oh Brother podcast keeps getting better with some great chats with the Hanley brothers. Really loved this one with John Leckie who produced 'This Nations's Saving Grace', 'Bend Sinister' and another plus some EP's during the mid 80's. Leckie found himself working at Abbey Road as an 18 year old in '67 and worked with the Beatles and Floyd and Syd Barrett and Mott the Hoople... and also produced the Stone Roses debut LP plus Radiohead's 'The Bends'. Not one fucking mention on his wiki page that he worked and befriended The Fall ;D



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Re: The Fall
« Reply #418 on: August 29, 2021, 10:31:00 pm »
The song that precedes 'Paint Work' is of course 'My New House'. Beat that.




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Re: The Fall
« Reply #419 on: August 30, 2021, 08:28:23 pm »
https://fuzzywarbles.bandcamp.com/album/the-hamsters-stupid-songs-vol-1-2-fw12



Some superb tracks on this 2xCassette by The Hamsters. Blurb below. Anyone know any info on the bold part? Sounds intriguing!


Manchester, England 1979: Three drunken friends make the wise decision to crash the stage at a UK Subs show. They had no name, no rehearsals, no songs. They surprisingly were offered a show the following week by the venue. Songs were written and rehearsed and a name was chosen...The Hamsters. After eventually playing several shows in and around Manchester, The Hamsters (once dubbed “fiercely intelligent hooligans”) were asked to join the “Weird Tales” tour opening for Androids of Mu, Zounds, The Mob, and The Astronauts. The tour was organized by former Here & Now soundman Grant Showbiz who was now the owner of Street Level Studios in London recording such bands as The Fall, Mark Perry, and the Instant Automatons. The Hamsters went down a storm and were invited by Grant to record at Street Level and do a release on (former Here & Now drummer) Kifkif Le Batteur’s Fuck Off Records.
At this time the members of The Fall were attending Hamsters gigs and becoming fans of the band. Mark E Smith soon asked The Hamsters to support The Fall at various gigs. After playing a show with The Fall at London’s Acklam Hall, The Hamsters recorded 10 songs at Street Level Studios. The band headed north to Manchester the next day clutching a tape of the demos they recorded with Grant. Two weeks later the band broke up.
Stupid Songs Vol. 1 & 2 is an historical document of The Hamsters and related bands from 1980 - 2017, beginning with the Street Level demos and ending with the band’s latest single “Basically Johnny Moped” (championed by original Moped, Captain Sensible). 1981 saw a reformed Hamsters and a rebranded version of the band called The Nightwatch Men, both carrying on the DIY spirit of where The Hamsters MK1 left off. Lead singer Ian “Moet” Moss formed The Dodos (and later) Bears From Belle Vue Zoo, both creating a post-punk funk sound.
In the mid-80s Moet had a couple of projects which featured an all-star lineup: Marc Riley and Paul Hanley from The Fall, Peter Hook of Joy Division/New Order, and Mike Joyce of The Smiths. These sessions were recorded by Jon Langford of The Mekons and have never seen the light of day...until now!
In 2015, a reformed Hamsters put out digital releases of the excellent 4VT single and Crash and Burn EP on Moet’s German Shepherd Records. In 2017 the double A-side Basically Johnny Moped and Freudian Ships were also put out as digital releases on German Shepherd. The strength of each song proves that The Hamsters four decades later are still producing quality material and have not fallen prey to the popular “punk” reunion circuit playing the same old tunes to make a quick buck.
Stupid Songs Vol. 1 & 2 captures all of the above recordings (and more) on two C72 cassettes featuring 42 songs. The release includes two 5-panel double-sided j-cards with pictures and extensive liner notes written by lead singer Ian “Moet” Moss. The cassettes come in a printed slipcase. Limited edition of 50!
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #420 on: September 3, 2021, 11:21:41 pm »
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Just in case you're lying in bed on a Friday night looking for excitement there's this as an option. In full obv.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #421 on: September 3, 2021, 11:39:18 pm »
That version of Rowche Rumble is definitive by the way. Never bettered ever.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #422 on: September 4, 2021, 06:47:03 pm »


Mark E Smith as a Pixar character

No never, no never no more
Will I trust the elves of Dunsimore

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #423 on: September 4, 2021, 09:33:35 pm »
No never, no never no more
Will I trust the elves of Dunsimore

 8) Excellent work sir!


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Re: The Fall
« Reply #424 on: September 19, 2021, 12:10:00 am »
Top of the league for a night.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #425 on: September 19, 2021, 12:29:32 am »
Favourite album atm is Shift Work from 1991. There's a riposte to Pavement on there - Notebooks Out Plagiarists! etc, - you rarely see it in a Fall best of's. But it's SO good. If you think The Fall are unlistenable to then check out Shift Work. It will change your mind.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #426 on: September 26, 2021, 12:46:13 pm »
I'M IN LOVE WITH THE CARRYBAG MAN

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #427 on: September 26, 2021, 05:52:04 pm »
Reading Mark E Smiths book at the moment, what a wonderfully sarcastic man he was.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #428 on: November 5, 2021, 09:50:27 pm »
Mark E Smith's last entrance on stage November 4th 2017.


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« Reply #429 on: November 5, 2021, 10:12:13 pm »
Mark E Smith's last entrance on stage November 4th 2017.


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I've seen this fella enter stage right a number of times but this... his last... is up there with the very best. There is no better band. I wasn't at this gig but he gave it the full welly by all accounts all night. x
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #430 on: November 6, 2021, 10:25:39 pm »
Decided to do a 90 minute best of Fall playlist compilation for a mate who just cant do The Fall. They're just too narky, too shite, too everything for him. Fuck that. Fuck him, Fuck the Fall.

By the 18th track he's going to drop to his knees and sob uncontrollably. This might get in there, might not.


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Re: The Fall
« Reply #431 on: December 4, 2021, 06:49:01 pm »



The Fall: Smile (live on The Tube 1983/4?)

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #432 on: December 4, 2021, 07:43:54 pm »
My lass bought me a 7" of Hit The North

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #433 on: March 28, 2022, 12:23:23 am »
Happy Mother's Day Ma's

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from: Annotated Fall: http://annotatedfall.doomby.com/pages/the-annotated-lyrics/mother-sister.html


1. Despite this introduction, it has been suggested that the song may be about being caught masturbating, or in the midst of some sex act. This seems like a plausible reading, although a speculative one, so it should be regarded with a certain amount of suspicion; indeed, see the account from Martin Brahmah below, which seems to suggest otherwise.

Una Baines wrote the music, and her band Poppycock released a song in 2016, "Lizard Man," which appears on the German Shepherd charity album Malawi. It begins with a man saying "Eh, what's this about?" and another man responding "Eh, nothing!"

Martin Brahmah tells a story that would explain much about the lyrics:

THE STORY OF MOTHER-SISTER!

“Mother-Sister!” That’s a funny one. That’s one I just arranged, I suppose, because Una’s credit was writing the music, because she did write the basic chords on the piano. Playing off that, I had to come up with an interesting bass line and a quirky guitar part. I was trying to make it Beefhearty, more angular. Obviously Mark wrote the words. Mark told me to say, “what’s this song about?” at the start of it - that’s me saying that. That was the little patter he just told me to say in the studio, you ask me what this song’s about, and I’ll say, nothing. 

I didn’t get for a while that Mother-Sister! is actually about my mother, about a story I told him. He’s describing where we lived, but I didn’t realise it at the time, it was only later that I did. That’s why he asked me to ask what the song was about, because it was about me and my mother. That’s what Mark is like, subtly deceitful! He only came round to our house once, I think. I’d told him about not having a father, and he’d tell me to shut up, because he thought I was bragging. But that’s just my story, I didn’t know my father. 

I grew up with my mum . . . well when I was younger, I lived with my gran, and I’d see my mum at weekends. They’d tell me that this was quite common then, in Manchester in those days, in the sixties. But for kids who didn’t know who the father was, they’d say your gran was your mum, and your mum was your sister, and your great-gran was your gran, et cetera . . . they’d move the generation up a notch to explain the lack of a father. So when I was young, I thought my gran was my mum, because that’s who I lived with, and I thought my mum was my sister. 

So when I tried to explain this to Mark, he was quite miffed that I’d had a more urchin-like childhood than him, because he saw himself as working class, but he had a dad, and his dad was a self-employed plumber. So he had his own business. Whereas, I didn’t know who my dad was, I’d been brought up between houses in east Manchester. The penny didn’t drop for a while, nonetheless, that Mother-Sister! was obviously about me talking about my relationship with my mother, that she’s more like a big sister than a mum. I went to live with my mum finally when I was seven, and that’s when I moved to Prestwich, in north Manchester. 

I was telling Mark about that, and outside the house, when he visited . . . we lived by the motorway, and there was a big electricity pylon outside of the house. You could hear buzzing all the time, but we got the house really cheap because it was by an electricity pylon and a motorway! And of course, the song ends with “why did you put your head in the pylon?” and he starts screaming! That part doesn’t make a lot of sense, but it’s impressions of my family home. 

I had quite a pretty mum, so he may have fancied her. A lot of my friends did, because she was a pretty blond and young for a mum - a lot of lads with older mums thought mine was quite sexy, as teenaged boys do! I was told that my mum was my sister, though my mum denies it now! I’d been given it subtly, at a young age. I used to stay with my mum at weekends. My mum lived with my great-gran, and she’d had the same thing happen . . . she thought her gran was her mum when she was young. There were no men around for three generations!
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #434 on: March 30, 2022, 10:45:58 am »
Paintwork is sublime genius that is all

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #435 on: April 19, 2022, 10:50:36 pm »
Paintwork is sublime genius that is all

It truly is.

Enjoyable cover of Fantastic Life can be seen here or hunted down on radio here: Has Paul Hanley on drums too plus classic Kay Carroll chat mixed in.

https://musicofeyelids.bandcamp.com/album/last-few-everything-that-i-see-you-see-better-ep
https://brianturnershow.com/

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #436 on: April 19, 2022, 10:52:25 pm »
Let's have a bit!

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #437 on: May 8, 2022, 09:41:40 pm »
Let's have a bit!

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Came here to choose something else but this looks better!

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #438 on: September 13, 2022, 11:55:48 pm »
The Fall: Rose (1991)

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Comments might be edited in later, but for now... Rose...

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #439 on: September 14, 2022, 12:40:17 am »
It's fucking crazy tho isn't it? Your favourite band is xxxxxxx xxxx. Then there's The Fall.

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