Topic: Liverpool news thread

[Red Beret]

Police have released an image of the hammer used in this brutal attack.

[Son of Spion]

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[AlphaDelta]

I read that too. I was expecting attempted murder charges going by the way the story was framed by the Manc Echo, but it appears the 'hammer' only managed to cause a swollen lip. Honestly, the Echo have totally lost the plot in recent years. It's no more than a localish tabloid now. Their website is appalling too.

The buses have always been dodgy. I know a driver who quit decades ago due to the violence. He was dragged out of his seat and had his head kicked in at Mann Island. It pretty much left him with PTSD.

I remember going into town on Saturday nights in the 80s, and that could be dodgy. I remember one night a gang got on in Kirkdale and walked straight past the driver without paying then went upstairs. There was all kinds of noise going on, then they kicked the windows in before all piling off at Juvenal Street. The driver just kept his head down.

A couple of years ago I was at Sir Thomas street waiting for a bus and some fella was there being really aggressive and terrifying a group of girls so much that they were going to not get on the bus because the fella was also boarding. It was night and it was dark, so I said to them to get on and I'd make sure they got home ok and I'd knock the twat out if he started on them on the bus. Anyway, it was fine and they got home ok, but it's pretty dodgy out there on public transport at times. The same could be said of travelling the Northern Line on Merseyrail, especially in summer when the loons were travelling to Formby. I've seen absolute mayhem on the train back in the day.

Absolutely spot on, its sadly not a new problem, its gone on for years. I have to use that 10A a lot of the time and really is a freak show on four wheels. Even worse, I used to go to the quiz night in the Jolly Miller with the lads a few years ago and I'd get the last 12 or 13 back to Page Moss. I'd literally dread going round Canny Farm because I was just waiting for the windows to go in.

As for that rag of an Echo, everything is just click bait to them nowadays, all sensational 'stories' to get people clicking on them.

[Red Beret]

I spent most of my life on the 10A route.  Let's say you meet some characters.

[AlphaDelta]

I spent most of my life on the 10A route.  Let's say you meet some characters.

Haha I could write a book about things I've witnessed on that bus. I live in Page Moss and work in Old Hall Street so its a necessary evil. One day a few years ago I'd had a really shit day in work and just wanted to go home. The 10A had got as far as Kensington, just past the Royal when some fella tried to get on with a blag ticket. The driver pulled him about it and the guy just lost the plot, screaming, foaming at the mouth, trying to pull the plastic screen open to get at the driver. The bus driver pressed some alarm and radioed for the police but he was like a man possessed. I shouted to him, "ay mate, theres kids on this bus, pay your fare or fook off!" but he didn't even acknowledge me, he was screaming and shouting. The hilarious thing about it, a group of three or four labourers were on the bus, went to the front, grabbed hold of him and gave him an old fashioned 'fish in the water' (do you all remember that in school) and literally threw him off the bus!

When I eventually got off in Page Moss I said to the driver, "are you alright mate?" and he was like, yeah thanks pal, happens most days. Grim.

[Snail]

I spent most of my life on the 10A route.  Let's say you meet some characters.

Was it the 10A where some fella got stabbed with a screwdriver a year or two ago and they had to close Queen Square?

[rob1966]

Absolutely spot on, its sadly not a new problem, its gone on for years. I have to use that 10A a lot of the time and really is a freak show on four wheels. Even worse, I used to go to the quiz night in the Jolly Miller with the lads a few years ago and I'd get the last 12 or 13 back to Page Moss. I'd literally dread going round Canny Farm because I was just waiting for the windows to go in.

As for that rag of an Echo, everything is just click bait to them nowadays, all sensational 'stories' to get people clicking on them.

There is also the other side of the coin for the drivers, don't come knocking if the bus is rocking One young lad my Dad worked with had 8 students on the go at one time.

[Red Beret]

Was it the 10A where some fella got stabbed with a screwdriver a year or two ago and they had to close Queen Square?

Couldn't say, mate. I've not needed the 10A at all for most of the past six years, and as I don't read the Echo I miss most of the local news.  Wouldn't surprise me, although I've seen fellas kick off at buses other than the 10A. 

Was on the 21 a few years back where a guy tried to get on after the bus pulled out the stop and he had a right proper gob on him.  He started walking up past St Georges Hall, clocked my bus stopped in the traffic near the lights, and sprinted across the road just to kick hell out of the doors and give it large to the female driver. Fucking knob. Hope he had to walk home the fucking scruff.

[RedBootsTommySmith]

I spent most of my life on the 10A route.  Let's say you meet some characters.

My missus lived by the Bluebell before we got married. One Friday night I was waiting at the Bluebell for the last bus home, down to Page Moss to get the last 12. The bus rolled up, chocka with a crowd from the Hillside pub, I suppose, and there was a fight on the lower deck. The driver opened the door and the two lads spilled out onto the street to continue their scrap. I got on the bus as the fight continued. The driver then waited for the scrap to finish. Both of the lads, winner & loser, got back on the bus and we went on our way. The way the driver just took it all in stride, I guess it was a normal, everyday experience for him.

[Red Beret]

My missus lived by the Bluebell before we got married. One Friday night I was waiting at the Bluebell for the last bus home, down to Page Moss to get the last 12. The bus rolled up, chocka with a crowd from the Hillside pub, I suppose, and there was a fight on the lower deck. The driver opened the door and the two lads spilled out onto the street to continue their scrap. I got on the bus as the fight continued. The driver then waited for the scrap to finish. Both of the lads, winner & loser, got back on the bus and we went on our way. The way the driver just took it all in stride, I guess it was a normal, everyday experience for him.

Still better than walking it in that place mate.

[Big Red Richie]

Anyone else have a blackout, over night?

12.30ish, all the house alarms went off, on our estate. Affecting dozens of houses. In L6, was talking with the neighbours in the street, at 1.00AM   this morning. power came back on about 1.45 ish.

I heared rumours L4, L5, L6 and L7, were all involved?

[Shanklygates]

I'm L4 Anfield and I don't think so going by my freezer and stuff but not certain

Definitely on at 2am

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Yes the Bay Horse is still there. If you went in between 1987 and about 1992 our kid probably cooked your food. Don Luigi is still there as far as I know.

There is a greek I've been told to go to, intend to give that a try when we are allowed out again.

My aunty and uncle owned Quo Vadis. Shut now i think although i havnt seen them in a few years

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Absolutely spot on, its sadly not a new problem, its gone on for years. I have to use that 10A a lot of the time and really is a freak show on four wheels. Even worse, I used to go to the quiz night in the Jolly Miller with the lads a few years ago and I'd get the last 12 or 13 back to Page Moss. I'd literally dread going round Canny Farm because I was just waiting for the windows to go in.

As for that rag of an Echo, everything is just click bait to them nowadays, all sensational 'stories' to get people clicking on them.

My Grandad and my dad worked on the buses for years. My grandad started before the war i think and my dad started straight from school in the early 60s till the late 80s. Was always coming home talking about nob eds on the buses. Was a handy fella me dad and didnt give a fuck how many there were but decided to leave after some gang got on one night in crosby by maccies and threw something in his face that nearly lost him his sight in one eye. Decided to take some sort of pay off and opened up a couple of shops.

[Medellin]

Unfuckingbelievable. 

Liverpool builders paid nothing for over nine acres of land

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-builders-paid-nothing-over-21774096#ICID=Android_EchoNewsApp_AppShare

USE THE APP.

[So… Howard Philips]

Unfuckingbelievable. 

Liverpool builders paid nothing for over nine acres of land

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-builders-paid-nothing-over-21774096#ICID=Android_EchoNewsApp_AppShare

USE THE APP.

See Len McCluskey's name mentioned. Wonder how many other of the great and good were involved.

[AlphaDelta]

I see there was another nasty crash on East Prescot Road, Knotty Ash early hours of Sunday. The roundabout where those three people were killed in April who had been drinking in The Deysbrook. Same set of circumstances, car hits the roundabout, bursts into flames. It was all closed off most of yesterday.

[Drinks Sangria]

I see there was another nasty crash on East Prescot Road, Knotty Ash early hours of Sunday. The roundabout where those three people were killed in April who had been drinking in The Deysbrook. Same set of circumstances, car hits the roundabout, bursts into flames. It was all closed off most of yesterday.

Someone at work told me that someone's been arrested for death by dangerous driving in the instance from over the weekend.

[Medellin]

https://www.livpost.co.uk/p/liverpool-vaccination-gap

Comparable to other majors..

Manchester 55.1%

London (region) 58.4%

Liverpool 60.2%

Leeds 66.6%

Birmingham 55.5%

Newcastle 63.5%

Unsure how much credibility the site has.

[Drinks Sangria]

Does seem remarkably low. Most people I know in my age group have had two jabs, some have even started to receive boosters. Less than half are meant to have had it though?

[So… Howard Philips]

Does seem remarkably low. Most people I know in my age group have had two jabs, some have even started to receive boosters. Less than half are meant to have had it though?

When the first round of jabs came out my mate in Wirral his wife and two student sons dashed over to Liverpool because of a plea for people to be vaccinated because of a poor take up in the City. It looks like this laissez faire attitude has carried on.

[The-Originals]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1462684774301155330

[So… Howard Philips]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-59373529

Liverpol to host meeting of G7 foreign ministers in December.

[So… Howard Philips]

380 tonnes of fly tipped waste cleared. How many lorry loads took the illegal waste in?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-59830321

[rob1966]

380 tonnes of fly tipped waste cleared. How many lorry loads took the illegal waste in?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-59830321

That is one bloody busy house clearance man with van doing that, about 350 or so runs in a Transit tipper. Used to knock about on that bit when we were kids, you wouldn't get anything much bigger than a Tranny up the hill to get on the bridge.

[John C]

Big finds like that have been going on in Liverpool (and wider of course) for 25 years. It's big business.

[Medellin]

It's shite but use the app..

'Covid deniers' storm hospital and accuse nurses of 'kidnap'

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/covid-deniers-storm-aintree-hospital-22609545#ICID=Android_EchoNewsApp_AppShare

Uploaded the clip for yer..what the fuck really!!??

https://streamable.com/o45ok3

[So… Howard Philips]

It's shite but use the app..

'Covid deniers' storm hospital and accuse nurses of 'kidnap'

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/covid-deniers-storm-aintree-hospital-22609545#ICID=Android_EchoNewsApp_AppShare

Uploaded the clip for yer..what the fuck really!!??

https://streamable.com/o45ok3

I've said in other threads why aren't the police arresting these arseholes? If for nothing else breach of the peace.

Getting sick of the blind eye turned to their 'protests'.

[jackh]

It's shite but use the app..

'Covid deniers' storm hospital and accuse nurses of 'kidnap'

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/covid-deniers-storm-aintree-hospital-22609545#ICID=Android_EchoNewsApp_AppShare

Uploaded the clip for yer..what the fuck really!!??

https://streamable.com/o45ok3

The quotes in the article 

[Medellin]

Tunnel tolls increase..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-59880984

[redbyrdz]

Tunnel tolls increase..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-59880984

Find it incredible that you still can't get from the Wirral to Liverpool without paying somehow. Either pay to take your car through the tunnels, or the two bridges, or pay to take a train/ferry. How about making it easy to move about?

[Medellin]

Find it incredible that you still can't get from the Wirral to Liverpool without paying somehow. Either pay to take your car through the tunnels, or the two bridges, or pay to take a train/ferry. How about making it easy to move about?

It's crazy yep.

There are 35 crossings on the Thames in London, 2 are tolled.
How many do we have and how many are tolled? 🤔

[redbyrdz]

It's crazy yep.

There are 35 crossings on the Thames in London, 2 are tolled.
How many do we have and how many are tolled? 🤔

The nearest untolled crossing is in Warrington.

[John C]

Find it incredible that you still can't get from the Wirral to Liverpool without paying somehow. Either pay to take your car through the tunnels, or the two bridges, or pay to take a train/ferry.

To say it does my head in is an understatement. It's not just to go to Wirral, it's to go anywhere South without having to take the long way round.
It's a compulsory travel tax, wtaf.

[CraigDS]

I've always found it weird just how few options there were to go over the water. I mean if anything there needs to be another closer than Runcorn Bridge but more out of town than the tunnels - although do get the Mersey widens to 2 to 3+ miles in that section.

[PeterJM]

Find it incredible that you still can't get from the Wirral to Liverpool without paying somehow. Either pay to take your car through the tunnels, or the two bridges, or pay to take a train/ferry. How about making it easy to move about?

They'll never make it easier for vehicles to move about.If anything they'll make it harder as will be proven when they implement the clean air zone charge.

[redbyrdz]

They'll never make it easier for vehicles to move about.If anything they'll make it harder as will be proven when they implement the clean air zone charge.

It's not really about vehicle movement to me, its about people  being able to move. Ideally for me they wouldn't do it in individual cars, but at the moment that is the reality and also a different discussion. If you live on the Wirral and work in Liverpool, you pay at least £500 extra. Shopping in Liverpool is more expensive than going to Cheshire oaks because of the travel costs alone. That can't be good for anybody.

[Millie]

It's not really about vehicle movement to me, its about people  being able to move. Ideally for me they wouldn't do it in individual cars, but at the moment that is the reality and also a different discussion. If you live on the Wirral and work in Liverpool, you pay at least £500 extra. Shopping in Liverpool is more expensive than going to Cheshire oaks because of the travel costs alone. That can't be good for anybody.

?   I live on the Wirral and travelling to Liverpool City Centre on public transport costs no more than when I lived in South Liverpool. 

[Medellin]

It's not really about vehicle movement to me, its about people  being able to move. Ideally for me they wouldn't do it in individual cars, but at the moment that is the reality and also a different discussion. If you live on the Wirral and work in Liverpool, you pay at least £500 extra. Shopping in Liverpool is more expensive than going to Cheshire oaks because of the travel costs alone. That can't be good for anybody.

Could be that Liverpool was just getting too big & too popular for its own good.
Managed decline an all that..

[Red Beret]

London travel is subsidised. Liverpool's ain't. Doesn't help that the number of cars in Liverpool over the past 60 odd years seems to have tripled, whilst the number of roads in the city centre has halved in the same period.

You only have to look at Lime Street to wonder what kind of thinking drives the planning in this city. Because if anybody involved thought it would improve traffic flow, then I have a tunnel to sell them.