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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5480 on: April 26, 2023, 08:58:39 am »
Can't wait for people to have egg on their faces next year in relation to Facile Vega.

I’ll start to believe it when I see it. He’s yet to beat a good horse.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5481 on: April 26, 2023, 09:03:21 am »
I’ll start to believe it when I see it. He’s yet to beat a good horse.

He just beat one yesterday. Sandor Clegane, one of your old favourites is a fairly good horse too.

We'll see in time.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5482 on: April 26, 2023, 09:15:04 am »
He just beat one yesterday. Sandor Clegane, one of your old favourites is a fairly good horse too.

We'll see in time.

Il Etait Temps is just a handicapper of the future and Sandor Clegane is short of top class. We’ll see but he’s a hype job so far in my opinion. His bumper form is terrible and he got put away easily enough at Cheltenham. If he comes out over fences and puts up 170 figures that’s fair enough.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5483 on: April 26, 2023, 10:57:27 am »
He just beat one yesterday. Sandor Clegane, one of your old favourites is a fairly good horse too.

We'll see in time.
How good do you think Marine Nationale is Flash? I think he’s a very good horse but not a superstar and he beat FV fairly convincingly. Over fences it might be different but is guess if he takes to fences he’ll be better over further
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5484 on: April 26, 2023, 05:37:19 pm »
Il Etait Temps is just a handicapper of the future and Sandor Clegane is short of top class. We’ll see but he’s a hype job so far in my opinion. His bumper form is terrible and he got put away easily enough at Cheltenham. If he comes out over fences and puts up 170 figures that’s fair enough.

Il Etait Temps did beat Inthepocket nearly 10 lengths and Inthepocket went and won the novice hurdle grade 1 at Aintree.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5485 on: April 26, 2023, 05:39:32 pm »
How good do you think Marine Nationale is Flash? I think he’s a very good horse but not a superstar and he beat FV fairly convincingly. Over fences it might be different but is guess if he takes to fences he’ll be better over further

I think Marine Nationale could be very very good. I'm not sure Facile Vega will go jump a fence, might end up dominating the Stayers Hurdle for a few years.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5486 on: April 26, 2023, 05:40:54 pm »
Wonder where they go with Gaelic Warrior. Either Stayers or over fences presumably.

Impaire Et Passé must be some horse, not as hyped as some but far and away the best novice hurdler this season for me.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5487 on: April 26, 2023, 05:49:41 pm »
Wonder where they go with Gaelic Warrior. Either Stayers or over fences presumably.

Impaire Et Passé must be some horse, not as hyped as some but far and away the best novice hurdler this season for me.

Plan for Gaelic Warrior is over fences I think.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5488 on: April 26, 2023, 05:55:41 pm »
Plan for Gaelic Warrior is over fences I think.
Most likely I guess. After that I’d quote like to see him go Stayers, not the strongest division currently, he has the potential to boss that.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5489 on: April 26, 2023, 06:11:45 pm »
Urgh. Anti Climax or what. Fair play to the connections of Fast or Slow for taking a shot
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5490 on: April 26, 2023, 06:31:32 pm »
Fastorslow has been campaigned shall we say… interestingly by Brassil. Ran over 2m, 2m 5, 2m 3, 2m 1 and then 3m 1 over his last 5 runs. Not convinced Brassil really had a clue where to put him but fair play, he won a nice pot here. That Ultima form is boiling hot.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5491 on: April 26, 2023, 06:39:43 pm »
Just noticed they’re moving the Tolworth Hurdle from Sandown to a new card at Aintree on Boxing Day. The Bula/International at Cheltenham is also moving from December to their Trials meeting at the end of January
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5492 on: April 26, 2023, 07:16:16 pm »
Plan for Gaelic Warrior is over fences I think.
Sounds like today may have prompted a rethink reading what Mullins said afterwards. Could well be Stayers. 8/1 best price now
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5493 on: April 26, 2023, 07:24:46 pm »
I’d run him in the Stayers. Nothing really coming through so he should take high ranking.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5494 on: April 26, 2023, 07:28:20 pm »
I’d run him in the Stayers. Nothing really coming through so he should take high ranking.
Still only 5. Could be the next Inglis Drever or Big Bucks and reel off a few if he stays sound
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5495 on: April 26, 2023, 07:50:34 pm »
Still only 5. Could be the next Inglis Drever or Big Bucks and reel off a few if he stays sound

Definitely a horses for courses event that one.

Monkfish is running tomorrow in the stayers event. I’m only worried about him bouncing to the moon but am I going to back him? You better believe I am. He ran well last time.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5496 on: April 26, 2023, 10:47:46 pm »
Definitely a horses for courses event that one.

Monkfish is running tomorrow in the stayers event. I’m only worried about him bouncing to the moon but am I going to back him? You better believe I am. He ran well last time.

Such a shame what happened to him. He was destined to be one of the best chasers in recent memory. For all the luck Rich Ricci has had as an owner he could have enjoyed so many more memorable moments if his horses stayed sound.
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« Reply #5497 on: April 26, 2023, 10:53:58 pm »
Yep Monkfish looked to be on course to be a serious Gold Cup horse. Great if they can get him back but how in any world can he be shorter than Sire Du Berlais after his last two victories. He’ll probably run a stinker now but I’ll be backing him again.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5498 on: April 27, 2023, 07:30:12 am »
He definitely has some hard luck stories does Ricci. I think Vautour was the one they’d like back Duvva. They ran him in that Ryanair because they weren’t convinced on how he’d been working if I remember right. Don Cossack won the Gold Cup and it was not a vintage renewal.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5499 on: April 27, 2023, 03:49:38 pm »
bet on by your side in the opener

just so i could get a free 10er bet

it absolutely hared up and only beat by a cm on the line, another yard and it wins

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5500 on: April 27, 2023, 05:06:03 pm »
He definitely has some hard luck stories does Ricci. I think Vautour was the one they’d like back Duvva. They ran him in that Ryanair because they weren’t convinced on how he’d been working if I remember right. Don Cossack won the Gold Cup and it was not a vintage renewal.
Ah yes Cue Card was tanking until Paddy Brennan launched him at the third last
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5501 on: April 27, 2023, 05:35:52 pm »
Felt like SDB possibly travelled too well there and Walsh maybe went on too early, but what a tremendous end to the season he’s had. Tehupoo was disappointing, Found Nothing. It’s possible Monkfish doesn't like Punchestown as he was beaten early, only other defeat (before his injury) was there to Colreevy as a novice over fences
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5502 on: April 27, 2023, 09:02:43 pm »
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5503 on: April 28, 2023, 02:40:13 pm »
Baaeed’s half brother, Naqeeb debuts at Leicester tomorrow. By Nathaniel and running over 10 furlongs first time out, so unlikely to have much pace but let’s see.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5504 on: April 28, 2023, 02:52:15 pm »
Baaeed’s half brother, Naqeeb debuts at Leicester tomorrow. By Nathaniel and running over 10 furlongs first time out, so unlikely to have much pace but let’s see.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5505 on: April 28, 2023, 08:09:45 pm »
Can’t believe Jonbons price tomorrow. 11/10 in open company for the first time. I had to check if he was receiving weight (he’s not). He won easy at Aintree but was well and truly put in his place by El Fabiolo. Just seems way too short, he’s very good but no superstar
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5506 on: April 29, 2023, 01:46:28 pm »
He’s won well enough today but not sure he’ll trouble Mullins two if he goes QM next year

I’ve had a go at Brandy Love today, much better right handed and is a decent price
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5507 on: April 29, 2023, 03:39:17 pm »
Harper's Brook there was an unbelievable finish. He just seemed to call enough after looking to have won after the last, definitely had plenty left in him, have never seen a horse seem to call it quits like that.

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« Reply #5508 on: April 29, 2023, 04:04:55 pm »
Harper's Brook there was an unbelievable finish. He just seemed to call enough after looking to have won after the last, definitely had plenty left in him, have never seen a horse seem to call it quits like that.
Sounds like a horse I’d back :)
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5509 on: May 1, 2023, 03:37:17 pm »
Tempted to go balls deep on Tahiyra for Sunday while 11/4 is still available in a couple of places
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« Reply #5510 on: May 1, 2023, 05:36:08 pm »
Tempted to go balls deep on Tahiyra for Sunday while 11/4 is still available in a couple of places
Is she definitely running in the Guineas, thought I read something earlier today suggesting she’d run in a Group 3 in Ireland?

Edit: having just checked her odds it would suggest she’s running in the Guineas after all.
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« Reply #5511 on: May 1, 2023, 05:52:32 pm »
Yeah, more or less confirmed.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5512 on: May 1, 2023, 06:05:11 pm »
Weld did seem a bit lukewarm in quotes, not towards the horse but he won’t have trained her specifically for this so I worry a match fit inferior horse would do for her. If it was run in July I’d say she’s bombproof.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5513 on: May 5, 2023, 11:53:02 am »
Auguste Rodin to do the business tomorrow?

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« Reply #5514 on: May 5, 2023, 02:05:40 pm »
Going to Newmarket tomorrow. Not the greatest card outside the 2000 Guineas itself.

I suspect Auguste Rodin will win, although Noble Style is worth an ew shout at 18/1
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« Reply #5515 on: May 5, 2023, 04:18:58 pm »
Didn’t beat much but looks like they’ve got Hurricane Lane back after some very lacklustre runs. Very classy performance
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« Reply #5516 on: May 5, 2023, 04:58:29 pm »
Good to see him do it, but he beat possibly the worst group 2 lineup ever seen. The horse that ran second is 6 years old and has never won more than a Class 2 handicap at Newmarket over 1 mile 6 in the UK. He’s probably only run to 112-113 there, so he’s still way short for my money.
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« Reply #5517 on: May 5, 2023, 06:07:21 pm »
Good to see him do it, but he beat possibly the worst group 2 lineup ever seen. The horse that ran second is 6 years old and has never won more than a Class 2 handicap at Newmarket over 1 mile 6 in the UK. He’s probably only run to 112-113 there, so he’s still way short for my money.
More the way he did it, he’s been desperate since the Arc 18 months ago, this looked more like it, but no doubt he beat nothing today.

On the other hand Stoute might have one for the Oaks this year, Infinite Cosmos looked better the further she went.
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« Reply #5518 on: May 5, 2023, 06:38:34 pm »
I absolutely love Sea The Stars as a sire. I tend to cotton on to any half decent horse of his.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5519 on: May 6, 2023, 10:16:18 am »
Perdika looks a good price to me today. Gets a stack of weight and doesn’t have much to find on ratings. Battle hardened and match fit too. Buick’s on her and so am I.