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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2480 on: December 1, 2020, 04:39:51 pm »
Exactly what they were hoping to avoid with a controlled dismantling/demolition. :(

I expect Scott will release a follow up video soon.  It's a crying shame because no other telescope in the world could do what it did.  The next most powerful radar telescope is barely half as powerful.

Plus how do you kill off Sean Bean in Goldeneye now? :P

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2481 on: December 1, 2020, 05:49:43 pm »
I wonder what they'll do with the site.  You'd hope, from a scientific point of view, they could rebuild something similar, preferably with upgrades.  Probably going to cost a bomb though.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2482 on: December 1, 2020, 07:00:57 pm »
I wonder what they'll do with the site.  You'd hope, from a scientific point of view, they could rebuild something similar, preferably with upgrades.  Probably going to cost a bomb though.

Scott Manley covered this.  The Puerto Rican government basically left it to rot.  The necessary upgrades and replacements of cables should really have taken place in the 90s.  More than once it was under the threat of closure altogether because of funding cuts.  I doubt very much there will be a replacement.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2483 on: December 1, 2020, 08:01:36 pm »
And here we are.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2484 on: December 1, 2020, 08:07:26 pm »
Bit of Brasso and that'll be sound, don't know what the fuss is about.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2485 on: December 3, 2020, 11:52:08 pm »
SN8 launching at 9pm et.


Will it explode on the pad? 

Or will it glide graceful until it lands like a thunderbird.  Could be sensational and a landmark in Spaceflight
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2486 on: December 4, 2020, 12:07:17 am »
SN8 launching at 9pm et.


Will it explode on the pad? 

Or will it glide graceful until it lands like a thunderbird.  Could be sensational and a landmark in Spaceflight
Is it now? Ive got this site that says 3 days plus:
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I'm confused...
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2487 on: December 4, 2020, 06:55:15 am »
Is it now? Ive got this site that says 3 days plus:
https://spacelaunchnow.me/launch/starship-sn8-15-km-flight/
 But there is a live cam showing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5l9ZxsG9M&feature=emb_logo

I'm confused...
Yeah.. misinformation!  I nearly got up really early for that.... pah...

It’s seem to have been rescheduled for Monday seem sir will be 12.5km rather than 15km.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2488 on: December 4, 2020, 12:10:56 pm »
And here we are.

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Footage of the collapse of the main receiver instruments.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-55181448
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2489 on: December 4, 2020, 08:27:05 pm »



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55192692

China has planted its flag on the Moon, more than 50 years after the US first planted the Stars and Stripes there.

The pictures from China's National Space Administration show the five-starred Red Flag holding still on the windless lunar surface.

They were taken by a camera on the Chang'e-5 space probe before it left the Moon with rock samples on Thursday.

Two previous Chinese lunar missions had flags on the crafts' coatings - so neither could be affixed to the moon.

The US planted the first flag on the Moon during the manned Apollo 11 mission in 1969. Five further US flags were planted on the lunar surface during subsequent missions up until 1972.

In 2012 Nasa cited satellite images as showing that five of the flags were still standing, but experts quoted in media reports say they are likely to have been bleached white by the sun's glare.

The first flag was said by astronaut Buzz Aldrin to have been placed too close to the Apollo lunar module and was, he said, probably blown away when the module blasted off.

The state-run Global Times newspaper said the Chinese flag was a reminder of the "excitement and inspiration" felt during the US Apollo missions.

The fabric flag was unfurled by the Chang'e-5 lander vehicle just before its ascender vehicle took off using the lander as a launchpad.

It has taken soil and rock samples to China's lunar orbiter 15km (nine miles) above the lunar surface - which will then be enclosed in a module that will be aimed at China's Inner Mongolia region.

The Chinese flag is 2m wide and 90cm tall and weighs about a kilogram. All parts of the flag have been given features such as protection against cold temperatures, project leader Li Yunfeng told the Global Times.

"An ordinary national flag on Earth would not survive the severe lunar environment," project developer Cheng Chang said.

China's national flag was seen on the Moon during its first lunar landing mission, Chang'e-3 in photographs taken by the lander and rover of each other. The Chang'e-4 lander and rover brought the flag to the dark side of the moon in 2019.

However, in both cases the flag was on the crafts' coating rather than being an actual fabric flag on a pole.

The Chang'e-5 mission is China's third successful landing on the Moon in seven years.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2490 on: December 4, 2020, 08:30:27 pm »
Footage of the collapse of the main receiver instruments.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-55181448

Scott with the breakdown of the - er - breakdown.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2491 on: December 6, 2020, 02:54:54 am »
A success for JAXA - Hayabusa2 has returned an asteroid sample to Earth:
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2492 on: December 8, 2020, 12:06:41 pm »
Saw a great documentary about the Cassini-Huygens probes on Amazon Prime (Free to watch)

Really interesting and a fascinataing look into the technology and the brilliant abilities of those involved.

I am mesmorised by how they can construct such things. I'm not the thickest person on Earth (Honest :P ) but I just can't conceive the sheer brilliance that you have to possess to be involved in missions and ventures like this.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2493 on: December 8, 2020, 05:09:31 pm »
Saw a great documentary about the Cassini-Huygens probes on Amazon Prime (Free to watch)

Really interesting and a fascinataing look into the technology and the brilliant abilities of those involved.

I am mesmorised by how they can construct such things. I'm not the thickest person on Earth (Honest :P ) but I just can't conceive the sheer brilliance that you have to possess to be involved in missions and ventures like this.

Nothing like Cassini-Huygens had ever been done before, nor has anything close been attempted since.  It was 22 feet long and 13 feet wide - that's as big as a decent sized motor home.  By Comparison, New Horizons was less than 9 feet long along its longest axis.

There was talk of sending it off to explore Uranus or Neptune when its Saturn mission was drawing to a close - such a trip would have taken 20 or 40 years respectively.  I don't know how long the RTG might have been expected to last but it was still pumping out a fair amount of power after 20 years.  Hell, one of its spares was used in New Horizons. (Presumably there were several devices networked together for Cassini, whereas NH would have used a single device).

It's unlikely we'll see anything so remotely ambitious for the foreseeable future, but it's the kind of probe you will need for long duration study of the outer planets.  If you want to explore the likes of Uranus or Neptune, you need something that's going to be able to function for a sufficient period of the planet's orbit in order to see changes over time. Probably 40 years' minimum.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2494 on: December 8, 2020, 06:14:37 pm »
SN8 supposed to be launching some time today....

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2495 on: December 8, 2020, 07:25:56 pm »
SN8 supposed to be launching some time today....


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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2496 on: December 8, 2020, 07:48:58 pm »

What's the bellyflop manoeuvre ?
Well, let’s wait and see....


Could be fun! 
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2497 on: December 8, 2020, 08:01:39 pm »
Well, let’s wait and see....


Could be fun!



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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2498 on: December 8, 2020, 10:19:50 pm »
Going for launch at half past

I am watching the biggest nerd fest ever
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2499 on: December 8, 2020, 10:32:27 pm »
Going for launch at half past

I am watching the biggest nerd fest ever

The NASA space flight youtube guys ?
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2500 on: December 8, 2020, 10:36:27 pm »
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2501 on: December 8, 2020, 10:37:08 pm »
Gutted,had these fuckers on in the background for hours & now the Rocket has aborted with 1 second to go.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2502 on: December 8, 2020, 10:38:05 pm »
T minus 1.3 seconds!!!

Ach

Tomorrow maybe
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2503 on: December 8, 2020, 10:40:11 pm »
Raptor abort, standing down for the day.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2504 on: December 9, 2020, 02:38:16 pm »
Trying again today I think
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2505 on: December 9, 2020, 08:56:25 pm »
8 minutes until bang
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2506 on: December 9, 2020, 08:57:05 pm »
IS there a stream?

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2507 on: December 9, 2020, 08:58:03 pm »
I’m on nasaspaceflight on YouTube..


Just nerds really ;D
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Re: Space exploration thread
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2509 on: December 9, 2020, 09:02:57 pm »
Oh dear ...


Doesn’t look good.. a delay
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2510 on: December 9, 2020, 09:10:06 pm »
Seems that an aircraft took off from an airfield close by causing them to stop the count

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2511 on: December 9, 2020, 09:23:14 pm »
Trying again in 17 minutes

Sorry... one hour 17
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Re: Space exploration thread
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2513 on: December 9, 2020, 10:25:48 pm »
Still scheduled for 20 mins

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2514 on: December 9, 2020, 10:40:30 pm »
T-5 minutes

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2515 on: December 9, 2020, 10:41:35 pm »
It's happening.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2516 on: December 9, 2020, 10:53:00 pm »
That. Was. Incredible!! So close to landing it as well!!!

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2517 on: December 9, 2020, 10:55:52 pm »
Amazing.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2518 on: December 9, 2020, 10:55:53 pm »
That. Was. Incredible!! So close to landing it as well!!!

It really was!

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #2519 on: December 9, 2020, 10:57:15 pm »
It was in the middle of the landing pad as well, it just came in too quickly! Amazing, can't wait for SN9!