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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13600 on: June 14, 2019, 11:59:23 am »
have these been officially taken over yet?

Not even unofficially taken over. It’s all gone a bit quiet. Probably they’ve attracted another time waster like the last few prospective takeover rumours

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13601 on: June 14, 2019, 12:01:45 pm »
Ashely is no more than they deserve anyway, fuck 'em the poverty banter tory c*nts

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13602 on: June 14, 2019, 12:43:45 pm »
sorry newcastle fans but i would be very very worried if i was in your shoes. Its cutting to close to the bone
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From a very good source - no takeover = no Rafa.

Absolute shambles at the minute (for a change!) - just announced season ticket prices for next season - 5% increase - gone up 25% in three seasons!

This takeover SURELY has to go through!

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13603 on: June 15, 2019, 01:26:06 pm »
Early moves in the transfer market by the looks of it!

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13604 on: June 19, 2019, 08:40:06 am »
What’s the story with Rafa? Is he staying?

Who is signing players for them this summer?

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13605 on: June 19, 2019, 08:43:54 am »
Considering a deal from China, by all accounts.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13606 on: June 19, 2019, 09:19:54 am »
What’s the story with Rafa? Is he staying?

Who is signing players for them this summer?

12 days left on his contract

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13607 on: June 19, 2019, 09:38:36 am »
he honestly cant be thinking of going to Asia to manage?

really?

mind you id rather manage there than work for mike ashley
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13608 on: June 19, 2019, 09:45:01 am »
he honestly cant be thinking of going to Asia to manage?

really?

mind you id rather manage there than work for mike ashley

£12m a season I saw.

Guess if it’s a choice between dealing with Ashley again or coining it in for a couple of seasons then the latter looks pretty tempting.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13609 on: June 19, 2019, 09:50:12 am »
£12m a season I saw.

Guess if it’s a choice between dealing with Ashley again or coining it in for a couple of seasons then the latter looks pretty tempting.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13610 on: June 19, 2019, 10:19:36 am »
Will be disappointed in Rafa if he goes to China for the money. No doubt dirty money in a country with huge human rights issues. He can do better than that.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13611 on: June 19, 2019, 10:21:32 am »
Will be disappointed in Rafa if he goes to China for the money. No doubt dirty money in a country with huge human rights issues. He can do better than that.

He should really stay and take Ashley’s clean money, or the new Sheik’s oil money  ;D

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« Reply #13612 on: June 19, 2019, 10:27:23 am »
He should really stay and take Ashley’s clean money, or the new Sheik’s oil money  ;D
Until Ashley is running concentration camps with over a million Muslims in then I don't think you can really compare. Any rich person who voluntarily goes to work in a country like that purely for their own financial gain is selfish. I don't like that so many fucked up people own clubs here but when you choose to go work for them in their country alongside the human rights oppressions, in my mind that's much more of an endorsement for what they stand for.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13613 on: June 19, 2019, 10:33:01 am »
Until Ashley is running concentration camps with over a million Muslims in then I don't think you can really compare. Any rich person who voluntarily goes to work in a country like that purely for their own financial gain is selfish. I don't like that so many fucked up people own clubs here but when you choose to go work for them in their country alongside the human rights oppressions, in my mind that's much more of an endorsement for what they stand for.

The club is owned by a private business, not the Chinese Govt.

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« Reply #13614 on: June 19, 2019, 10:47:11 am »
The club is owned by a private business, not the Chinese Govt.
So you see nothing wrong with choosing to earn millions in a country where a million plus are imprisoned for being Muslim?

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13615 on: June 19, 2019, 10:53:36 am »
So you see nothing wrong with choosing to earn millions in a country where a million plus are imprisoned for being Muslim?

I personally think it's a slippery slope if you start the judge people who work for private companies by the country they are based.

You could start questioning Klopp for working for Americans. Or for a UK based club. Neither countries have clean hands.

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« Reply #13616 on: June 19, 2019, 11:31:14 am »
I personally think it's a slippery slope if you start the judge people who work for private companies by the country they are based.

You could start questioning Klopp for working for Americans. Or for a UK based club. Neither countries have clean hands.
A slippery slope for what? People being held accountable for who they're taking money from and what they're supporting by working for them? Anyone rich in China has close ties to the state, that's the nature of their beast, and the decision to start the major investment in Chinese football and bring high profile names to their shores didn't arise from the wills of rich football fanatics.

I would like you to answer my question though. Do you see nothing wrong with it? I already feel less inclined to visit America with Trump in charge, but if he was to start sending Muslims to concentration camps, I certainly would not be visiting or working there. I definitely wouldn't view it as irrelevant to a decision to do so. To go to a country to fill your pockets while there are natives being oppressed and human rights atrocities are taking place doesn't sound in the least problematic to you? Christ I feel bad and angry enough going past the homeless people in this country. At least I can speak out against that and try and take action, you can't even do that in somewhere like China with the problems they have. Being paid to come over and shut up and do your football thing, add a few more millions to the millions you already have while whatever happens happens, whoever gets oppressed gets oppressed, none of your concern. Nah, it's not cool to me.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13617 on: June 19, 2019, 12:18:01 pm »
I can’t see Rafa moving to China. His Mrs wouldn’t have it for a start. They’re not short of a few bob either.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13618 on: June 19, 2019, 12:25:31 pm »
Until Ashley is running concentration camps with over a million Muslims in then I don't think you can really compare. Any rich person who voluntarily goes to work in a country like that purely for their own financial gain is selfish. I don't like that so many fucked up people own clubs here but when you choose to go work for them in their country alongside the human rights oppressions, in my mind that's much more of an endorsement for what they stand for.

He's a manager. It's not like he has a limit on the number of years on his career the same as a player, who you could more realistically accuse of being in it for the money. Maybe he wants to live in Asia? It is a fascinating place with a lot to offer.

I've been to Northenr Sri Lanka which only ten years ago was the scene of a bloody government conquest. I've been to Vietnam where people are still arrested for anti-government Facebook posts. I've been to Kashmir which is basically under military occupation. I was once unfortunate enough to spend 18.5 hours in Qatar airport. Does spending money in these places mean I endorse war crimes, slavery or oppression?

We pay taxes in the UK FFS. Just look at what those taxes are doing to Yemen.

It is perfectly possible to go and live and work in a country without endorsing the regimes every move. China is a country of 1.3 billion people and one of the worlds oldest civilisations.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13619 on: June 19, 2019, 12:50:47 pm »
I can’t see Rafa moving to China. His Mrs wouldn’t have it for a start. They’re not short of a few bob either.

that's the thing, one of his reasons for going to Newcastle was so he could work closer to his home.  Not sure I can see Montse upping sticks to China, and I can't see Rafa wanting to work so far away from his family! 

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13620 on: June 19, 2019, 01:15:15 pm »
He's only been offered a job there, most likely he'll not even seriously consider it. He'll either stay at Newcastle or look for a job in England/elsewhere in Europe.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13621 on: June 19, 2019, 03:35:14 pm »
A slippery slope for what? People being held accountable for who they're taking money from and what they're supporting by working for them? Anyone rich in China has close ties to the state, that's the nature of their beast, and the decision to start the major investment in Chinese football and bring high profile names to their shores didn't arise from the wills of rich football fanatics.

I would like you to answer my question though. Do you see nothing wrong with it? I already feel less inclined to visit America with Trump in charge, but if he was to start sending Muslims to concentration camps, I certainly would not be visiting or working there. I definitely wouldn't view it as irrelevant to a decision to do so. To go to a country to fill your pockets while there are natives being oppressed and human rights atrocities are taking place doesn't sound in the least problematic to you? Christ I feel bad and angry enough going past the homeless people in this country. At least I can speak out against that and try and take action, you can't even do that in somewhere like China with the problems they have. Being paid to come over and shut up and do your football thing, add a few more millions to the millions you already have while whatever happens happens, whoever gets oppressed gets oppressed, none of your concern. Nah, it's not cool to me.

Are you even slightly aware of the horrendous human rights violations the American and UK governments are guilty of?

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13622 on: June 19, 2019, 04:04:58 pm »
Luis enrique has stepped down as Spanish manager.

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« Reply #13623 on: June 20, 2019, 04:07:56 am »
Will be disappointed in Rafa if he goes to China for the money. No doubt dirty money in a country with huge human rights issues. He can do better than that.

Human right issues, yes.  Dirty money, how do you know?  There are many  business operating normally in this part of the world.  Please do not stereotype. 

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13624 on: June 20, 2019, 04:36:09 am »
A slippery slope for what? People being held accountable for who they're taking money from and what they're supporting by working for them? Anyone rich in China has close ties to the state, that's the nature of their beast, and the decision to start the major investment in Chinese football and bring high profile names to their shores didn't arise from the wills of rich football fanatics.

I would like you to answer my question though. Do you see nothing wrong with it? I already feel less inclined to visit America with Trump in charge, but if he was to start sending Muslims to concentration camps, I certainly would not be visiting or working there. I definitely wouldn't view it as irrelevant to a decision to do so. To go to a country to fill your pockets while there are natives being oppressed and human rights atrocities are taking place doesn't sound in the least problematic to you? Christ I feel bad and angry enough going past the homeless people in this country. At least I can speak out against that and try and take action, you can't even do that in somewhere like China with the problems they have. Being paid to come over and shut up and do your football thing, add a few more millions to the millions you already have while whatever happens happens, whoever gets oppressed gets oppressed, none of your concern. Nah, it's not cool to me.

You’ve heard about colonialism right?
Or the UK’s drones (not just the US you know)?
Or the 5 eyes?

There’s a distinct moral difference between private companies and governments.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13625 on: June 20, 2019, 05:28:19 am »
Luis enrique has stepped down as Spanish manager.

be all over that if im rafa
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« Reply #13626 on: June 20, 2019, 08:13:17 am »
A slippery slope for what? People being held accountable for who they're taking money from and what they're supporting by working for them? Anyone rich in China has close ties to the state, that's the nature of their beast, and the decision to start the major investment in Chinese football and bring high profile names to their shores didn't arise from the wills of rich football fanatics.

I would like you to answer my question though. Do you see nothing wrong with it? I already feel less inclined to visit America with Trump in charge, but if he was to start sending Muslims to concentration camps, I certainly would not be visiting or working there. I definitely wouldn't view it as irrelevant to a decision to do so. To go to a country to fill your pockets while there are natives being oppressed and human rights atrocities are taking place doesn't sound in the least problematic to you? Christ I feel bad and angry enough going past the homeless people in this country. At least I can speak out against that and try and take action, you can't even do that in somewhere like China with the problems they have. Being paid to come over and shut up and do your football thing, add a few more millions to the millions you already have while whatever happens happens, whoever gets oppressed gets oppressed, none of your concern. Nah, it's not cool to me.

The US is basically putting immigrants in concentration camps and have been for a long time.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13627 on: June 20, 2019, 11:35:35 am »
The US is basically putting immigrants in concentration camps and have been for a long time.
and its citizens in jails..highest incarceration rate in the world{per capita}.. Hopefully Rafa lands on his feet , wgherever that may be
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13628 on: June 20, 2019, 04:01:04 pm »
Be all over Rafa if I was Spain
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13629 on: June 20, 2019, 10:13:24 pm »
If I was a manager or even a player, I'd definitely prefer Japan over China. That would be a great country to live in even if the alphabet is really random  ;D That being said, Spain would do well to appoint Rafa, but I really doubt that will be their course of action. My guess would be Marcelino.
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« Reply #13630 on: June 20, 2019, 10:19:20 pm »
A slippery slope for what? People being held accountable for who they're taking money from and what they're supporting by working for them? Anyone rich in China has close ties to the state, that's the nature of their beast, and the decision to start the major investment in Chinese football and bring high profile names to their shores didn't arise from the wills of rich football fanatics.

I would like you to answer my question though. Do you see nothing wrong with it? I already feel less inclined to visit America with Trump in charge, but if he was to start sending Muslims to concentration camps, I certainly would not be visiting or working there. I definitely wouldn't view it as irrelevant to a decision to do so. To go to a country to fill your pockets while there are natives being oppressed and human rights atrocities are taking place doesn't sound in the least problematic to you? Christ I feel bad and angry enough going past the homeless people in this country. At least I can speak out against that and try and take action, you can't even do that in somewhere like China with the problems they have. Being paid to come over and shut up and do your football thing, add a few more millions to the millions you already have while whatever happens happens, whoever gets oppressed gets oppressed, none of your concern. Nah, it's not cool to me.

Yeah. Mike Ashley owns a company that imports your favourite sporting brands which are manufactured by child slaves in the same country you're talking about. He then pays migrants and poor kids poverty wages (sometimes less than minimum wage) on zero hours contracts to sell them to you. The game - because of the money - is a disgrace. The only way this changes is systemic change.

I think what you're really saying and what is a fair argument is that you'd rather Rafa takes dirty money working in the Premier League or somewhere competitive than do it elsewhere?
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« Reply #13631 on: June 22, 2019, 01:50:35 pm »
that's the thing, one of his reasons for going to Newcastle was so he could work closer to his home.  Not sure I can see Montse upping sticks to China, and I can't see Rafa wanting to work so far away from his family! 

Yep. Seems mad to think he'd consider it. Perhaps it is being used more for political ends to get him a new deal in Newcastle. The Spain job would make a ton of sense for all parties

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« Reply #13632 on: June 22, 2019, 05:19:25 pm »
So you see nothing wrong with choosing to earn millions in a country where a million plus are imprisoned for being Muslim?
Maybe you should empty your house of all the goods you have, funding these rich people with their terrible human rights. 95% of your possessions that you paid top dollar for are owned by these organisations.  Carry on nonetheless. 
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« Reply #13633 on: June 22, 2019, 05:23:15 pm »
Are you even slightly aware of the horrendous human rights violations the American and UK governments are guilty of?

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« Reply #13635 on: June 22, 2019, 09:52:42 pm »
Great goal by Willian.
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« Reply #13637 on: June 22, 2019, 09:54:57 pm »
Justice done; that was never a pen.
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« Reply #13638 on: June 22, 2019, 09:57:49 pm »
Guess which dickhead is in the wrong thread  :lmao :lmao :lmao
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« Reply #13639 on: June 22, 2019, 09:59:44 pm »
^ the newcastle  lads will be getting excited when they see Willian in the thread :D