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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2012, 01:12:14 pm »
We've got nothing to lose by keeping him here next season. Absolutely nothing.

Its quite evident that we wont be able to ship him out for a transfer fee. Loaning him out again makes no sense considering the lack of creativity in the side.



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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2012, 01:15:56 pm »
if he gets loaned again, I'm through with football.... backup to Gerrard?

Aquilani            Gerrard
              Lucas

that's a damn good midfield right there (provided Gerrard isn't 1000 yards deep, cleaning balls up 2 yards in front of the back four like he was the majority of the time last season...)

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2012, 01:19:22 pm »
if he gets loaned again, I'm through with football.... backup to Gerrard?

Aquilani            Gerrard
              Lucas

that's a damn good midfield right there (provided Gerrard isn't 1000 yards deep, cleaning balls up 2 yards in front of the back four like he was the majority of the time last season...)

Gerrard only played there as Spearing couldn't adapt to Lucas' role.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2012, 01:22:05 pm »
Never been a question of ability with him has it? He doesn't seem to want to be at the club for one reason or another, but it's not like Kenny or Hodgson wanted him either so that played its part too. if that's not the case with Rodgers then who knows, he might have a rethink. Still expect him to not be here after the window closes though.

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2012, 01:22:55 pm »
Never been a question of ability with him has it? He doesn't seem to want to be at the club for one reason or another, but it's not like Kenny or Hodgson wanted him either so that played its part too. if that's not the case with Rodgers then who knows, he might have a rethink. Still expect him to not be here after the window closes though.

To be fair, he's never really said anything bad about us.

It's all been his agent.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2012, 01:26:21 pm »
We've got nothing to lose by keeping him here next season. Absolutely nothing.

Its quite evident that we wont be able to ship him out for a transfer fee. Loaning him out again makes no sense considering the lack of creativity in the side.

Correct, neither can I understand why we're about to spend up to 15m for a player that does the same job.
Criminal waste of money imo.
Midfield is an area we can be really strong with players we already have at our disposal, we don't need to add any more (assuming Dempsey is pretty much done deal).

Gerrard, Lucas, Dempsey, Aquilani, Spearing, Adam, Cole, Shelvey.

I'm convinced that we have the strength in depth, and creativity in midfield that could only be bettered by 2 or 3 other sides.

« Last Edit: July 22, 2012, 01:35:55 pm by L666KOP »
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2012, 01:30:09 pm »
We payed big dollars for the guy and have gotten about 6 class games from him plus a few pre season teasers. It would be nice to see him play a full season for us. Never doubted his talent.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2012, 01:32:56 pm »
Hope Rogers really gives the lad a chance, so classy on the ball and can just see passes that other players cant see.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2012, 01:35:07 pm »
I’d be more than happy for Aqua to stay here and play. The money we could save on buying someone like Allen could be used elsewhere, i.e., in front of goal or proper DM coverage for Lucas.

Lets be honest, Allen has had 1 great season in the EPL, if he has another I’m pretty sure his price isn’t going to increase much more than currently quoted 15m. So if he does prove his worth we’re not talking about a massive increase and we can still possibly get a player who would meet our current needs.

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2012, 01:39:54 pm »
if he gets loaned again, I'm through with football.... backup to Gerrard?

Aquilani            Gerrard
              Lucas

that's a damn good midfield right there (provided Gerrard isn't 1000 yards deep, cleaning balls up 2 yards in front of the back four like he was the majority of the time last season...)
and when Gerrard is out or when Gerrard comes off...

Aquilani            Suso
              Lucas


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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2012, 01:40:40 pm »
Correct, neither can I understand why we're about to spend up to 15m for a player that does the same job.

Gerrard, Lucas, Dempsey, Aquilani, Spearing, Adam, Cole.

Dempsey and Cole aren't central midfielders. Adam and Spearing are average players. Gerrard is injured regularly. Leaving Lucas, Aquilani and Henderson.

Doesn't look so adequate now and Allen on current form is better than Aquilani and Henderson and Shelvey who I forgot.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2012, 01:43:01 pm »
 

Shelvey or Hendo will get on before Suso.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2012, 01:45:36 pm »
Dempsey and Cole aren't midfielders. Adam and Spearing are average players. Gerrard is injured regularly. Leaving Lucas, Aquilani and Henderson.

Doesn't look so adequate now and Allen on current form is better than Aquilani and Henderson.

Dempsey and Cole could potentially be used in up to 5 positions depending on how Brendan sets us up.
Adam and Spearing add depth, and I can't believe that that injuries will remove any more than four of the list I made.
We are awash with midfielders, if we sign Allen I'd be disappointed if we didn't recoup his fee by selling surplus stock.
Considering the players we have the money could be spent far more efficiently in other areas.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2012, 01:46:52 pm »
Personally I don't think he is worth all the fuss and drama.

He clearly doesn't want to be here and we should just take the best offer that comes our way.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2012, 01:48:45 pm »
Personally I don't think he is worth all the fuss and drama.

He clearly doesn't want to be here and we should just take the best offer that comes our way.
What fuss and drama?



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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2012, 01:50:57 pm »
What fuss and drama?

No, you are right.

His signing has been a roaring success.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2012, 01:51:59 pm »
Lucas, Gerrard, Aquilani, Henderson, Adam, Shelvey, Suso, Spearing,

Those are our current central midfield options.

In my opinion, Spearing and Adam aren't good enough and need to be shipped out.

Take them out, and we're left with Lucas, Gerrard, Aquilani, Henderson, Shelvey, and Suso. A very promising bunch of players.

Gerrard isn't going to last much longer, so bringing in Allen would be great. As a group of central midfielders at the club, where three will play at a time ..

Allen, Lucas, Gerrard, Aquilani, Henderson, Shelvey, and Suso

... would please me. None of those players are players I'd look at and feel that they're not good enough.

We'd probably need a DM to cover Lucas though. Maybe someone from the reserves/academy, just not Spearing, please.

Taking Aquilani out of there would make a big difference, for the worse.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #57 on: July 22, 2012, 01:53:06 pm »
No, you are right.

His signing has been a roaring success.

He has a chance under a new manager, a clean slate.

He seems happy enough to be part of the club and to play for us as it stands. I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #58 on: July 22, 2012, 02:07:13 pm »
Never been a question of ability with him has it? He doesn't seem to want to be at the club for one reason or another, but it's not like Kenny or Hodgson wanted him either so that played its part too. if that's not the case with Rodgers then who knows, he might have a rethink. Still expect him to not be here after the window closes though.

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There we go....this is where the wheels come off this thread, emotions get raised, names are called, some get banned and the mods lock it afore page 3.

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2012, 02:12:51 pm »
:D

There we go....this is where the wheels come off this thread, emotions get raised, names are called, some get banned and the mods lock it afore page 3.

 By the way Bob - not that I necessarily disagree with your post

I called page 3. ;D
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #60 on: July 22, 2012, 02:16:52 pm »
Sorry for the line up predictions, but...

                         Lucas
          Aquilani              Gerrard

Borini                Suarez             Pacheco

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #61 on: July 22, 2012, 02:20:29 pm »
Correct, neither can I understand why we're about to spend up to 15m for a player that does the same job.
Criminal waste of money imo.
Midfield is an area we can be really strong with players we already have at our disposal, we don't need to add any more (assuming Dempsey is pretty much done deal).

Gerrard, Lucas, Dempsey, Aquilani, Spearing, Adam, Cole, Shelvey.

I'm convinced that we have the strength in depth, and creativity in midfield that could only be bettered by 2 or 3 other sides.

The midfielder in question Is also 6 years younger and will contribute more to the club in the next 5-6-7 or more years. That's not the case with Aquilani who, should he now stay, is really something for the next 2 or 3 years.

Also neither Demspey or Cole are central players,certainly not in the sense of what we're looking to.

If we keep Alberto,buy Allen and sell off Adam then that is a midfield that should potentially cover the short and long term plans.

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #62 on: July 22, 2012, 02:26:08 pm »
He has a chance under a new manager, a clean slate.

He seems happy enough to be part of the club and to play for us as it stands. I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

Yep. His agent has been worryingly quiet this summer, only really stating that Alberto will stay whilst everything that has been stated in past has said he's "allegedly" got no problem with staying at the club. Hopefully Borini will get on with him and provide a friendly face and we can all finally see why Rafa wanted him in the first place.

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #63 on: July 22, 2012, 02:31:36 pm »
We should buy Allen and get rid of Adam. Rodgers want someone in midfield who is familiar with his style of play. Allen could fit in perfectly. He could play alongside Lucas and as well as be backup to him. Rodgers should also consider playing Gerrard in front 3 rather than in the midfield.

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #64 on: July 22, 2012, 02:32:11 pm »
Lucas, Gerrard, Aquilani, Henderson, Adam, Shelvey, Suso, Spearing,

Those are our current central midfield options.

In my opinion, Spearing and Adam aren't good enough and need to be shipped out.

Take them out, and we're left with Lucas, Gerrard, Aquilani, Henderson, Shelvey, and Suso. A very promising bunch of players.

Gerrard isn't going to last much longer, so bringing in Allen would be great. As a group of central midfielders at the club, where three will play at a time ..

Allen, Lucas, Gerrard, Aquilani, Henderson, Shelvey, and Suso

... would please me. None of those players are players I'd look at and feel that they're not good enough.

We'd probably need a DM to cover Lucas though. Maybe someone from the reserves/academy, just not Spearing, please.

Taking Aquilani out of there would make a big difference, for the worse.
Agree with all of this bar I think Allen could cover and play alongside Lucas. We also need to cautious about Lucas, to many seem to think hes going to as good as he was straight away, it could take him a while to get back to his best.

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #65 on: July 22, 2012, 02:34:34 pm »
We should buy Allen and get rid of Adam. Rodgers want someone in midfield who is familiar with his style of play. Allen could fit in perfectly. He could play alongside Lucas and as well as be backup to him. Rodgers should also consider playing Gerrard in front 3 rather than in the midfield.
You do know this is a thread about Aquilani?
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #66 on: July 22, 2012, 02:43:59 pm »
Fucking brilliant you do know this is a thread about Aquilani?

Forgot to mention that Aquilani/new midfielder(possibly Allen) should be a part of midfield and hence Gerrard should be considered an option upfront.

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #67 on: July 22, 2012, 02:52:21 pm »
Lucas, Gerrard, Aquilani, Henderson, Adam, Shelvey, Suso, Spearing,

Those are our current central midfield options.

In my opinion, Spearing and Adam aren't good enough and need to be shipped out.

Take them out, and we're left with Lucas, Gerrard, Aquilani, Henderson, Shelvey, and Suso. A very promising bunch of players.

Gerrard isn't going to last much longer, so bringing in Allen would be great. As a group of central midfielders at the club, where three will play at a time ..

Allen, Lucas, Gerrard, Aquilani, Henderson, Shelvey, and Suso

... would please me. None of those players are players I'd look at and feel that they're not good enough.

We'd probably need a DM to cover Lucas though. Maybe someone from the reserves/academy, just not Spearing, please.

Taking Aquilani out of there would make a big difference, for the worse.
The midfielder in question Is also 6 years younger and will contribute more to the club in the next 5-6-7 or more years. That's not the case with Aquilani who, should he now stay, is really something for the next 2 or 3 years.

Also neither Demspey or Cole are central players,certainly not in the sense of what we're looking to.

If we keep Alberto,buy Allen and sell off Adam then that is a midfield that should potentially cover the short and long term plans.

Lets hope Brendan gets his man Allen & plays him alongside Aquilani & Lucas in a 4-3-3 midfield. Could become a possession machine that. Gerrard would be the impact sub coming off the bench.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #68 on: July 22, 2012, 02:52:47 pm »
Fucking brilliant you do know this is a thread about Aquilani?

Attitude like this is disgusting.

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2012, 02:56:28 pm »
didn't rodgers say it was dependant on whether he wants to be here? that would suggest he sees some role for him

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« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2012, 02:56:45 pm »
Attitude like this is disgusting.
Soo many Aquilani threads have been locked because of people bringing in other midfielder saying we should sell him and him, Aquilani's better etc etc..
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« Reply #71 on: July 22, 2012, 03:00:48 pm »
To be fair, he's never really said anything bad about us.

It's all been his agent.
yes its all his evil agent who just happens to be paid by Aquilani to represent him. Couldn't possibly be the fact he wanted his agent to try and push through deals to get him back to Italy.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #72 on: July 22, 2012, 03:00:59 pm »
Loaning him out could save us a few quid in wages, so there isn't zero benefit to it, but not a huge amount. But I'd defer to the wisdom of the market on this one; nobody has wanted to pay up for a permanent deal for him, so that's indication enough that he probably won't become any more key for us than for them. Could prove useful to have around, but my expectations set to lowest possible level if he stays.

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« Reply #73 on: July 22, 2012, 03:01:46 pm »
Yep exactly.  He may do a job for us, but was merely pointing out that sometimes on here he's made out to be some sort of cross between Zidane and Platini.  If he was 'world class' he'd have been snapped up for a huge sum long ago and would be a playmaker in the centre of the Italian national team.

The only relevant squad to be considered is ours, not Juve's, Milan's or Italy's. Is he better than the other options we have in our squad? Bringing in these other teams for comparison is a bit like the arguments about Insua (not good enough, get rid, never mind the lack of LBs in our squad) or Pacheco (not good enough, get rid, never mind the lack of decent LFs in our squad). He's already on our payroll, so we're actively deciding to sign him. It's a matter of deciding whether or not he's better than the others we have in his position, or whether the competition is pushing him out of our squad. Not whether or not he'd get into someone else's team.
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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2012, 03:04:55 pm »
yes its all his evil agent who just happens to be paid by Aquilani to represent him. Couldn't possibly be the fact he wanted his agent to try and push through deals to get him back to Italy.

Agents make more money by pushing transfers onto their players.

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« Reply #75 on: July 22, 2012, 03:04:59 pm »
I called page 3. ;D

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #76 on: July 22, 2012, 03:05:23 pm »
He's the most creative and technical midfielder we have. We need a playmaker - there is no other senior player on our books with the quality and the game intelligence to dictate play. We suffered without one last year (2011/12 season) and in Rafa's last year (2009/10 season), and our best performances in the last three years came under Kenny when Meireles was in form and the team's confidence was up (latter half of 2010/11). Gerrard is not a playmaker, and though Lucas is capable, he can't do everything - he had enough to deal with last season when he was doing practically all of the midfield defensive work, and the over-exertion cost us him for eight months.

Aquilani is boss.

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #77 on: July 22, 2012, 03:16:37 pm »
Yay the annual summer Aquilani thread

Look for the rising tide of hope, bolstered by a couple of motm preseason performances through the first 20 pages followed by wailing and gnashing of teeth for the next 80 pages after he's loaned out to Sampdoria with a clause to buy for ฃ50 quid and a reserve kit after 30 appearances

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« Reply #78 on: July 22, 2012, 03:20:03 pm »
He's the most creative and technical midfielder we have. We need a playmaker

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Re: Alberto Aquilani
« Reply #79 on: July 22, 2012, 03:21:56 pm »
Fuck - I guess no one on here was watching the FSC version of the game yesterday at the 38 minute mark? Was hoping someone would bring it up - didn't want to be the bearer of bad news. 
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