Author Topic: Golden State Killer/East Area Rapist caught after 40 years (Read 3823 times)

coolbyrne · « **on:** April 25, 2018, 10:09:51 pm »

This is incredible:

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(CNN)A former California police officer has been identified as the so-called Golden State Killer believed to have committed 12 killings and at least 50 rapes across California from 1976 to 1986, authorities said Wednesday.

Joseph James DeAngelo, 72, was arrested after investigators matched discarded DNA from his home to evidence from some of the crimes, Ventura County District Attorney Greg Totten told reporters.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/25/us/golden-state-killer-development/index.html

[new username under construction] · « **Reply #1 on:** April 25, 2018, 10:11:56 pm »

Literally just bough the book about it today :/ inconsiderate police!!!

The North Bank · « **Reply #2 on:** April 25, 2018, 10:13:11 pm »

Wow , watched a documentary on this, awesome news.

coolbyrne · « **Reply #3 on:** April 25, 2018, 10:13:34 pm »

Quote from: [new username under construction] on April 25, 2018, 10:11:56 pm

Literally just bough the book about it today :/ inconsiderate police!!!

spoiler alert: He was caught.

[new username under construction] · « **Reply #4 on:** April 25, 2018, 10:15:59 pm »

Quote from: coolbyrne on April 25, 2018, 10:13:34 pm

spoiler alert: He was caught.

God damn it!!!!

coolbyrne · « **Reply #5 on:** April 25, 2018, 10:16:20 pm »

If anyone's interested in podcasts/true crime, this 5-part series on the case (aired before today's events!) is very well done.

http://casefilepodcast.com/case-53-east-area-rapist-1976-part-1/

DangerScouse · « **Reply #6 on:** April 25, 2018, 10:25:47 pm »

Was always fascinated by this case. Great news.

https://youtu.be/jdElYnd-xMo

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #7 on:** April 25, 2018, 10:27:52 pm »

All very Dexter.

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #8 on:** April 26, 2018, 11:31:17 am »

Pity Patton Oswalts late wife Michelle McNamara who championed the follow-up on this case isn't around to see this finally and hopefully come to a conclusion.

B0151? · « **Reply #9 on:** April 26, 2018, 11:40:08 am »

He was always at risk of being caught because they had his DNA. Remember reading about one serial killer from fairly recent who got caught because his son's DNA was enough of a match to flag up on the systems!

sms1986 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 26, 2018, 11:46:34 am »

It's always great to hear about old cold cases being solved, especially when the person involved is still alive and able to face justice for their crimes. Hopefully this gives his surviving victims closure after all of these years.

Shepnois · « **Reply #11 on:** April 26, 2018, 03:00:23 pm »

This was one of most disturbing and frightening true crime stories I've ever heard. I've listened to a good few podcasts on this story and this guy terrorised Sacramento and the surrounding areas during the 70's/80's. I was stunned and delighted to see the news that they had him. I wonder what led police to him, did a family member get arrested and they got a DNA match? great work anyway.

TheShanklyGates · « **Reply #12 on:** April 26, 2018, 03:15:38 pm »

Quote from: Shepnois on April 26, 2018, 03:00:23 pm

This was one of most disturbing and frightening true crime stories I've ever heard. I've listened to a good few podcasts on this story and this guy terrorised Sacramento and the surrounding areas during the 70's/80's. I was stunned and delighted to see the news that they had him. I wonder what led police to him, did a family member get arrested and they got a DNA match? great work anyway.

Maybe Trump tried to give him a cabinet job...

RedSince86 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 26, 2018, 03:20:57 pm »

Quote from: coolbyrne on April 25, 2018, 10:16:20 pm

If anyone's interested in podcasts/true crime, this 5-part series on the case (aired before today's events!) is very well done.

http://casefilepodcast.com/case-53-east-area-rapist-1976-part-1/

Cheers.

I've saved that for future listening.

stoa · « **Reply #14 on:** April 26, 2018, 07:53:41 pm »

Will be interesting to see how they found him and why the crimes stopped in the 80s...

Peabee · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2018, 02:29:05 am »

Quote from: Shepnois on April 26, 2018, 03:00:23 pm

This was one of most disturbing and frightening true crime stories I've ever heard. I've listened to a good few podcasts on this story and this guy terrorised Sacramento and the surrounding areas during the 70's/80's. I was stunned and delighted to see the news that they had him. I wonder what led police to him, did a family member get arrested and they got a DNA match? great work anyway.

It was through voluntary familial DNA via a genealogy site.

rob1966 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2018, 10:00:55 pm »

A documentary about the Golden State Killer just starting on Investigation Discovery

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2018, 10:05:52 pm »

Quote from: stoa on April 26, 2018, 07:53:41 pm

Will be interesting to see how they found him and why the crimes stopped in the 80s...

Found him after some of his family used a genealogy website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43916830

Not because of this but all members of law enforcement should have to give their DNA when they sign up imo.

The North Bank · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2018, 10:37:22 pm »

Quote from: rob1966 on April 27, 2018, 10:00:55 pm

A documentary about the Golden State Killer just starting on Investigation Discovery

Im watching that, they were advertising it before he was caught, at the moment they are investigating whether he was a police officer, they found a discarded police badge on one of the crime scenes. Its weird working backwards. Theyd always been certain he had police/military background, due to the great skill he used and the amount of intelligence he gathered before committing his crimes. Its like watching a scene from a horror movie.

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #19 on:** April 27, 2018, 10:41:06 pm »

Quote from: Peabee on April 27, 2018, 02:29:05 am

It was through voluntary familial DNA via a genealogy site.

I wonder if it's disclosed by DNA analysis companies like Ancestry.com that your DNA sample maybe shared with law enforcement agencies or even insurance companies.

If they don't, could there be technicality on the evidence used to link him to the crimes?

fudge · « **Reply #20 on:** April 27, 2018, 11:50:37 pm »

Fucking pigs

Dim Glas · « **Reply #21 on:** April 28, 2018, 12:23:10 am »

Raises a lot of questions about privacy issues and these ancestry sites.

Wabaloolah · « **Reply #22 on:** April 29, 2018, 06:46:28 pm »

Quote from: stoa on April 26, 2018, 07:53:41 pm

Will be interesting to see how they found him and why the crimes stopped in the 80s...

yes was reading about this the other day and the thing I find odd if this is the guy is why no more crimes after 1986 that can be attributed to their MO.

Serial killers usually only stop when they die or get caught. Sometimes when they find a relationshipz assume it must have been the latter, if they have the correct person

The North Bank · « **Reply #23 on:** April 29, 2018, 09:34:07 pm »

Quote from: shelts on April 29, 2018, 06:46:28 pm

yes was reading about this the other day and the thing I find odd if this is the guy is why no more crimes after 1986 that can be attributed to their MO.

Serial killers usually only stop when they die or get caught. Sometimes when they find a relationshipz assume it must have been the latter, if they have the correct person

As a police officer, he knew the improvement in police techniques and it was around the time DNA was starting to get used. Apparently he decided to stop because he thought DNA analysis would catch him, that’s one theory anyway.

Red-Soldier · « **Reply #24 on:** April 29, 2018, 09:54:57 pm »

Quote from: WhereAngelsPlay on April 27, 2018, 10:05:52 pm

Found him after some of his family used a genealogy website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43916830

Not because of this but all members of law enforcement should have to give their DNA when they sign up imo.

I believe they do in the UK, not sure when it started.

rob1966 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 30, 2018, 09:15:50 am »

Quote from: Dië Nullfuenfer on April 28, 2018, 12:23:10 am

Raises a lot of questions about privacy issues and these ancestry sites.

More is coming out about this and it highlights even more how modern society is just prepared to put all of its personal data out there. In this case, first an FBI lawyer checked the plan they had proposed and said it was legal. From that, the investigator from the DA's office didn't need to get a warrant and have to trawl through private files/information - he simply joined the GEDmatch website under a false profile and pseudonym, submitted the DNA they had from a crime scene from 1980 and then the company did a search, as any of us can do, to look for "lost" relatives and returned the results. From this they got some hits and then they worked through this to get their suspect.

You can imagine that right now law enforcement all over the place are submitting DNA to these companies for unsolved cases - I certainly would if I was a detective.

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #26 on:** April 30, 2018, 09:39:57 am »

Quote from: rob1966 on April 30, 2018, 09:15:50 am

More is coming out about this and it highlights even more how modern society is just prepared to put all of its personal data out there. In this case, first an FBI lawyer checked the plan they had proposed and said it was legal. From that, the investigator from the DA's office didn't need to get a warrant and have to trawl through private files/information - he simply joined the GEDmatch website under a false profile and pseudonym, submitted the DNA they had from a crime scene from 1980 and then the company did a search, as any of us can do, to look for "lost" relatives and returned the results. From this they got some hits and then they worked through this to get their suspect.

You can imagine that right now law enforcement all over the place are submitting DNA to these companies for unsolved cases - I certainly would if I was a detective.

So basically the police just set up a Covert Human Inteeligence Source to submit the crime scene DNA, no different than sending an under cover cop to infiltrate a gang.

Don't see any privacy issues as any search was targeted at a very specific target and no personal information from any innocent person should have been disclosed.

Geppvindh's · « **Reply #27 on:** April 30, 2018, 10:03:50 am »

An excellent piece in LAMag from 2013.

http://www.lamag.com/longform/in-the-footsteps-of-a-killer/

Edit: This was written by Michelle McNamara (Patton Oswalt's wife), who has been tracking this case for long. An HBO docu series based on a book she wrote has begun production.

rob1966 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 30, 2018, 10:53:56 am »

Quote from: So... Howard Phillips on April 30, 2018, 09:39:57 am

So basically the police just set up a Covert Human Inteeligence Source to submit the crime scene DNA, no different than sending an under cover cop to infiltrate a gang.

Don't see any privacy issues as any search was targeted at a very specific target and no personal information from any innocent person should have been disclosed.

Yeah, that is it in a nutshell. Can't be a privacy issue, as gedmatch explicitly states in its terms that it is a research and comparison website, which requires the sharing of data and that users of the site should expect their data to be shared with others. It also states if you want privacy then either don't upload data or delete and data if you already have uploaded it. It's not infringed the suspects privacy as none of his data was involved, it was a lead that the connection to a family member of the DNA that was investigated. Whoever came up with the idea should be congratulated for their thinking.

https://www.gedmatch.com/policy.php