Topic: One Man's Mission to X $44 billion Goodbye

[Party Phil]

Employees $200M
Materials $150M
Rent $800M
CEO bonus and stock options $3,600M
Utility $150M
someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my company is dying

[Jiminy Cricket]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/apr/17/elon-musk-tesla-pay

Musk devotees on the board still want Musk to be paid $56B after the Dealware court rejects the pay award as 'unfathomable'.

[thejbs]

Musk’s obsession with creating worker robots doesn’t seem to chime with his dislike of layoffs. A cynic might think mass layoffs and robotisation are his end goal…

[thaddeus]

Musk’s obsession with creating worker robots doesn’t seem to chime with his dislike of layoffs. A cynic might think mass layoffs and robotisation are his end goal…

He's the embodiment of why so many people are nervous about AI and robotics.  It's not so much the enslavement of the human race by robots - although I wouldn't put it past Musk to fire the person responsible for the line of code that stops robots harming humans - but rather the enslavement of the human race by billionaires.

Each time there's a crossroads where advances in automation increase productivity and lower employee workloads they are taking the path that funnels more money to the top.  The natural conclusion will be that you're either one of the few sitting at the top of this pile or you're one of the many fighting over an ever decreasing slice of the pie.

[TepidT2O]

Once again their advertising is bizarre.

After being offered a hummingbird feeder on a regular basis I am now being offered cheap Hijabs. I have nothing against humans, but how poor is their ad targeting??!

[Jiminy Cricket]

Once again their advertising is bizarre.

After being offered a hummingbird feeder on a regular basis I am now being offered cheap Hijabs. I have nothing against humans, but how poor is their ad targeting??!

...but not as good as robots, ay?

[TepidT2O]

Ok bollocks, hijabs


Bloody phone predictive text

[BarryCrocker]

They should just lock up whatever Australian based senior management they can. Fines mean nothing to these clowns.

Elon Musk and his social media company X have vowed to fight orders by Australia’s online watchdog to remove content related to alleged Sydney church stabbing attack.

On Tuesday, eSafety commissioner Julie Inman Grant said social media giants X, formerly Twitter, and Facebook parent company Meta would be issued a notice of removal.

The notice relates to content depicting “gratuitous or offensive violence with a high degree of impact or detail” following the alleged stabbing of Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel.

In a tweet early Saturday local time, Elon Musk, who purchased Twitter in April 2022, claimed “The Australian censorship commissar is demanding *global* content bans”.

Faced with fines it failed to comply with the order, X’s global government affair’s team claimed posts it had been ordered to remove did not violate its rules on violent speech.

In a statement, which was shared by Musk, the social media giant said “recent attacks in Australia are a horrific assault on free society” but vowed to fight the removal notice.

“The Australian eSafety Commissioner ordered X to remove certain posts in Australia that publicly commented on the recent attack against a Christian Bishop,” X said.

“X believes that eSafety’s order was not within the scope of Australian law and we complied with the directive pending a legal challenge.

“X has now received a demand from the eSafety Commissioner that X globally withhold these posts or face a daily fine of $785,000.”

The company described the alleged stabbing of the Assyrian church leader as “a tragic event” and said it did “not allow people to praise it or call for further violence”.

“There is a public conversation happening about the event, on X and across Australia, as is often the case when events of major public concern occur,” X said.

“While X respects the right of a country to enforce its laws within its jurisdiction, the Commissioner does not have the authority to dictate what content users can see globally. “We will robustly challenge this unlawful and dangerous approach in court.

“Global take-down orders go against the very principles of a free and open internet and threaten free speech everywhere.”

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/censorship-commissioner-musk-blasts-governments-sydney-church-stabbing-order/news-story/38793c584e8e50801959778cba2e3c13

[WhereAngelsPlay]

They want the freedom to spread all the conspiracy & other evil shit that they like, all in the age where 1 tweet can wipe billions off of a companies worth or cause a mob to commit murder.


Twatter is also owned by Saudi Arabia.

[Lee1-6Liv]

 

[thejbs]

Speaking of cybertrucks, they've had to recall all of them because the trim on the accelerator pedal can become unstuck and forces the accelerator to get wedged on full throttle.

[ChaChaMooMoo]

Speaking of cybertrucks, they've had to recall all of them because the trim on the accelerator pedal can become unstuck and forces the accelerator to get wedged on full throttle.

Imagine having 825hp underneath your pedal and having that happen to you.

[PhilV]

Speaking of cybertrucks, they've had to recall all of them because the trim on the accelerator pedal can become unstuck and forces the accelerator to get wedged on full throttle.

The build quality on all Tesla's is abysmal.

[bradders1011]

It makes you worry for the rest of the car if they're not following the rule of designing out single points of catastrophic failure in a bit of footwell trim. Like the brown M&Ms trick, if the small stuff isn't taken care of then the big stuff is concerning.

[thaddeus]

Imagine having 825hp underneath your pedal and having that happen to you.

The whole thing looks like a prop from the original Star Trek series.  I think my kids would dismantle it from the inside out on one long journey.

[Jiminy Cricket]

I though some here would be interested the Thunderf00t Youtube channel. It is dedicated to busting bollocks tech. For readily understandable reasons, the channel has moved much of its attention - all diatribes - to Musk over the past year or two.

https://www.youtube.com/@Thunderf00t/videos

[TepidT2O]

Imagine having 825hp underneath your pedal and having that happen to you.

This must be how my pants feel

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Fake alloy pedals 

[Crosby Nick]

Fake alloy pedals 

For her fake Chinese rubber plant

[thejbs]

Latest figures shows that he’s put democrats off buying Teslas. They used to make up 40% of people who bought them. It’s now 15%. Part explains their big sales drop. Who’d have thought MAGA cap-wearing, anti-woke climate deniers weren’t the main EV buyers.

[Schmidt]

Latest figures shows that he’s put democrats off buying Teslas. They used to make up 40% of people who bought them. It’s now 15%. Part explains their big sales drop. Who’d have thought MAGA cap-wearing, anti-woke climate deniers weren’t the main EV buyers.

"I bought this before I found out Musk was a dick" seems to be a popular bumper sticker amongst the existing owners.

It's funny, he seemed to be selling himself as the saviour of the left not that long ago, but he found that the left don't easily let scummy behaviour slide (to a fault at times) whereas the right can be quite easy to please. I doubt the owners of other car companies that sell EV's are any better, but the fact that they're not parading their awful personalities on twitter puts them at a big advantage.

[thejbs]

The winners in America have been the pesky foreigners, mainly Mercedes and Hyundai. It was always inevitable that Tesla would lose market share as other manufacturers caught up with their tech, but Musk has made things significantly worse. He’s confused customers and fanbois.

[[new username under construction]]

The winners in America have been the pesky foreigners, mainly Mercedes and Hyundai. It was always inevitable that Tesla would lose market share as other manufacturers caught up with their tech, but Musk has made things significantly worse. He’s confused customers and fanbois.

It's really odd that that haven't really evolved either though, other than a new bumper and some trim was it? The cars look sooooooooo dated now

Oh and the Genius Yoke idea

[ChaChaMooMoo]

Oh and the Genius Yoke idea

To be honest, from an engineering perspective, to drive inside the city, the Yoke is an innovative solution.

[Jiminy Cricket]

To be honest, from an engineering perspective, to drive inside the city, the Yoke is an innovative solution.

No corners in your city?

[ChaChaMooMoo]

No corners in your city?

With electronics and speed sensitive steering systems, you only need half a turn of the yoke to give the same effect of making a U-turn on the older style steering.

No more gears and telescopic connections. Which means little R&D costs and even lesser production costs. Which, if you are not a capitalist, can be passed on the consumers.

[Jiminy Cricket]

With electronics and speed sensitive steering systems, you only need half a turn of the yoke to give the same effect of making a U-turn on the older style steering.

No more gears and telescopic connections. Which means little R&D costs and even lesser production costs. Which, if you are not a capitalist, can be passed on the consumers.

So. Kinda like fly-by-wire - no mechanical linkages.

So, if steering is much sharper at slow speed, resulting in a lack of granularity in steering control, are there any issues around accuracy? Genuine question - I've never driven a Tesla.

[ChaChaMooMoo]

So. Kinda like fly-by-wire - no mechanical linkages.

So, if steering is much sharper at slow speed, resulting in a lack of granularity in steering control, are there any issues around accuracy? Genuine question - I've never driven a Tesla.

Yes no mechanical linkages of any kind between the wheel and the steering --> Also works in case of a front crash as currently, bad crashes mean, the steering is pushed into the occupant cell and despite airbags, it could be fatal.

As for accuracy, no issues until 5 million kilometers. And after that they will need some calibration thats all if all the electrical components are still optimal.

Since they are speed sensitive, they are actually more accurate. So sudden full turn of the yoke at high speeds, will not result in a toppling of the car (as with the current systems) but rather a more aggressive lane change at max.

[Jiminy Cricket]

Yes no mechanical linkages of any kind between the wheel and the steering --> Also works in case of a front crash as currently, bad crashes mean, the steering is pushed into the occupant cell and despite airbags, it could be fatal.

As for accuracy, no issues until 5 million kilometers. And after that they will need some calibration thats all if all the electrical components are still optimal.

Interesting.

Since they are speed sensitive, they are actually more accurate. So sudden full turn of the yoke at high speeds, will not result in a toppling of the car (as with the current systems) but rather a more aggressive lane change at max.

Yeah, I got that steering is speed sensitive (I assumed this to mean that the car steers less for given rotation of the steering wheel as the car speed of the car increases). No, what I mean is, at low speed, given that the car steers much more for given rotation of the steering wheel, are there any issues due to a lack of granularity (given that steering wheel rotates, what, a maximum of about +/- about 90 degrees? My guess is that it not an issue, but I do not know for sure.

[ChaChaMooMoo]

No, what I mean is, at low speed, given that the car steers much more for given rotation of the steering wheel, are there any issues due to a lack of granularity (given that steering wheel rotates, what, a maximum of about +/- about 90 degrees? My guess is that it not an issue, but I do not know for sure.

Ah like that you mean.
No. There wont be any accuracy issues as they are calibrated, tested, validated and approved. Road legal approval from govt certification agencies. At all speeds.

Edit: They are quite robust.

[Jiminy Cricket]

Ah like that you mean.
No. There wont be any accuracy issues as they are calibrated, tested, validated and approved. Road legal approval from govt certification agencies. At all speeds.

Edit: They are quite robust.

I was meaning, would it be twitchy (less fine grain control) at slow speeds if the maximum rotation of the steering wheel was very restricted (+/- 90 degrees or some such)? Alas, it seems, that although Tesla yoke steering (lock-to-lock) is more restricted than a typical domestic use car, it is not that restricted. And, actually, having just looked at a video, the problem I (initially) perceived of the yoke steering wheel just being a danger to handle is now reinforced.

https://osultan.smugmug.com/Cars/Refresh-Model-S/n-jF42tn/i-MqTr9SD/A

And, given that crossing hands is contrary to the Highway Code, and that this is difficult to avoid when using a yoke steering wheel, I am not sure how these are legal (in the UK at least).

Anyway, just a bit surprised.

[thejbs]

With electronics and speed sensitive steering systems, you only need half a turn of the yoke to give the same effect of making a U-turn on the older style steering.

No more gears and telescopic connections. Which means little R&D costs and even lesser production costs. Which, if you are not a capitalist, can be passed on the consumers.

Unless they’ve changed recently, the Tesla yoke doesn’t have progressive steering ratios. That was a major complaint about it. And you don’t need a yoke to have a progressive steering system; plenty of manufacturers have it now with regular, boring old round steering wheels.

The main issue with the yoke is safety. In the event of losing control, you have less surface area to grip. Only the most ardent of fanbois like the yoke. Tesla even had to back down and offer a round wheel as an option. It’s a shocking piece of design that makes no sense.