Author Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - WELCOME, 'A PLAYER'!!  (Read 2491466 times)

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Who was that teenage talent who was given a tour of Anfield but decided to go elsewhere (Ajax?) for development time?
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Vlahovic. Get them both though, then you've unrivalled cover across the front line. Unrealistic.

Daka is interesting - sensational numbers, seriously quick, excellent conversions and starting to develop his link up play. He's young, won't be at the next Afcon and is schooled in the RB pressing system, which suits us. However, it's still very difficult to scale performance in the Austrian Bundesliga to the Premier League or other top European league. Anecdotally it seems to have a similar hit rate to The Netherlands, somewhere around 40% - 45% become a tangible success at a better level. Daka looks to me like a player who is absolutely worth the asking price and if he goes to a stepping stone club, is sold for more than double not long after. Funnily enough he'd be a fantastic Vardy replacement at Leicester, he has the pace and finishing with more strings to his bow.

Vlahovic is understated Haaland. Does a lot of what the big Norwegian can do, is quicker than his frame suggests, is strong and a good finisher. He has excellent movement in the box and allows you to use him as a staging post to hit long or stretch the play sitting on the last man. He gives you more options as a mobile and physical number 9 than we have at present. He's also only 21 and putting up fantastic numbers in a strong league, for a truly dreadful team. If Vlahovic was at even a Roma or an Atalanta, stick 10 more goals on his numbers. For me, he's the one we should be going for.

I'm not even going to pretend I've seen Vlahovic play, but do you have any worries about signing a striker off the back of their first good goalscoring season? Now, he's only 21 so that's absolutely not a mark against him, but our transfer strategy is usually centred on minimising risk. And signing a striker who has only had one season where he scored more than 10 league goals feels risky to me. Especially when you consider he's never played in the Champions League/Europa League.

On the contrary, it could be that he's just starting to explode and his trajectory will continue upwards - in which case it's the perfect time to get him in. But for me, it feels inherently risky and the type of transfer Edwards wouldn't usually do (assuming he's going to cost a decent wedge).

Who was that teenage talent who was given a tour of Anfield but decided to go elsewhere (Ajax?) for development time?


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Sonny Pike?

Current players, still a teenager IIRC. We keep being linked with him, but I can't remember his name.
"i just dont think (Lucas is) that type of player that Kenny wants"
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Did anyone else listen to Julien Laurens podcast with Gab Marcotti?

They were discussing Camavingas future and apparently Edward's has been speaking to his representatives for the last 18 months. They said initially it looked set that he'd join Real Madrid but that deal is now dead and we're favourites to get him this Summer.

Unfortunately caught a Rennes Europa League game or two over the last year, he seems a talent. Mad to think he has over 60 senior appearances and just 18. Oozes technical skill and confidence.
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Vlahovic is understated Haaland. Does a lot of what the big Norwegian can do, is quicker than his frame suggests, is strong and a good finisher. He has excellent movement in the box and allows you to use him as a staging post to hit long or stretch the play sitting on the last man. He gives you more options as a mobile and physical number 9 than we have at present. He's also only 21 and putting up fantastic numbers in a strong league, for a truly dreadful team. If Vlahovic was at even a Roma or an Atalanta, stick 10 more goals on his numbers. For me, he's the one we should be going for.

He looks really interesting getting 3+ shots off in a bad team at 19/20 in one of the big leagues is a great easy filter for top level potential ... haven't watched him but if his movement is good as you say he could make sense 

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I'm not even going to pretend I've seen Vlahovic play, but do you have any worries about signing a striker off the back of their first good goalscoring season? Now, he's only 21 so that's absolutely not a mark against him, but our transfer strategy is usually centred on minimising risk. And signing a striker who has only had one season where he scored more than 10 league goals feels risky to me. Especially when you consider he's never played in the Champions League/Europa League.

On the contrary, it could be that he's just starting to explode and his trajectory will continue upwards - in which case it's the perfect time to get him in. But for me, it feels inherently risky and the type of transfer Edwards wouldn't usually do (assuming he's going to cost a decent wedge).
I'd normally say the same, that maybe there's not enough data to go at. However, being a follower of Fiorentina and watching most of their matches I would say that buying him now for £30m - £40m is going to get you a quality player two years ahead of maybe battling with Juve or Milan or whoever to buy him for £80m. Indeed, Milan are heavily linked. He just has a lot of quality and physical capabilities and I'm going to say something I normally wouldn't, as I'm pretty stats driven generally, but you can just tell he's going to be a top quality player.

He's dragged a dreadful Fiorentina team through this season and if they stay up, which is by no means certain, it will largely be down to him. Chiesa has more assists for the team than anyone except Vlahovic and Ribery and he played two games before moving to Juve at the start of the season.

Vlahovic for me is one who if I was going off the data youtube, or a handful of live performances (which can be the case with players I bring up in here), I'd say let him move elsewhere or monitor another season at Fiorentina. As it is, I think this guy would hit the ground running and produce pretty much straight away. It's good that Fiorentina signed him when they did and managed his minutes when he was still a teenager, otherwise he could have had well over senior 150 appearances before he was even 19 - he's been playing senior football since 15. Don't think Zigic or Mitrovic though, think Haaland or even Van Nistelrooy.

He looks really interesting getting 3+ shots off in a bad team at 19/20 in one of the big leagues is a great easy filter for top level potential ... haven't watched him but if his movement is good as you say he could make sense 
He has that knack of great strikers to always seem to have easy tap ins - his movement is excellent and he actually attacks the box. I think due to all of the noise around Haaland he's slipped under the radar somewhat. When bearing down on goal, he has a knack of making it look like he's taken an overly heavy touch, which commits the goalkeeper, then he finds an extra yard and stretches a long leg out to dink it over the onrushing keeper. It's a canny little trick he pulls off with enough regularity to say it's purposeful.

 If you personally said to me: 'here's £50m to sign one attacker,' - I'd be on a flight to Florence. Fiorentina, bless them, are dreadful - they're currently just about sitting above relegation based on scraped wins against the weakest teams in the league. They've only won twice in the last ten and that was against teams below them.
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Current players, still a teenager IIRC. We keep being linked with him, but I can't remember his name.

Oh right :P No idea then.
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Who was that teenage talent who was given a tour of Anfield but decided to go elsewhere (Ajax?) for development time?

odegaard?

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odegaard?

Opposite of Odegaard. Jeremy Doku. Was convinced after a talk with Mane to look at his overall career and not rush into a big name move. Decided to sign for Anderlecht, and currently with Rennes.
"i just dont think (Lucas is) that type of player that Kenny wants"
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http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=267148.msg8032258#msg8032258

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Who was that teenage talent who was given a tour of Anfield but decided to go elsewhere (Ajax?) for development time?

Schuurs?

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"i just dont think (Lucas is) that type of player that Kenny wants"
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http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=267148.msg8032258#msg8032258

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If it comes down to it: Daka vs Vlahovic, who do you think is the better fit for Liverpool at the moment?
Watkins is the one.

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It's getting serious now. I suspect he will ask about Almiron, too.

John should do it.  Would be fucking hilarious.

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Fabrizio Romano is giving it the “here we go” with Konate.

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Fabrizio Romano is giving it the “here we go” with Konate.

Lovely stuff. Just Kabak, Bissouma, Neuhaus, Aouar, Nkunku, Sancho, Malen, Daka and Vlahovic to go.

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So the ESL was all just a smoke screen so we could push the Konate deal through with no one looking. Brilliant idea
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Fabrizio Romano is giving it the “here we go” with Konate.
Here we go "soon" is a new one!
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Ibrahima Konaté to Liverpool, here we go soon! The deal is set to be completed, personal terms agreed on a five-years contract.

Liverpool will pay the release clause to RB Leipzig in the next days [around €35m] in order to finalize the signing of Konaté

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super signing.
Get Kabak signed too & we are very strong at the back.

I wonder are we considering 3 at the back next season?


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super signing.
Get Kabak signed too & we are very strong at the back.

I wonder are we considering 3 at the back next season?

We don’t need two cbs, and I very much doubt we will spend 18 m on Kabak and not use that money to help with the purchasing of an attacker.

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super signing.
Get Kabak signed too & we are very strong at the back.

I wonder are we considering 3 at the back next season?



I do like Kabak and hope we go for him too. Can turn into a beast of a player with the right coaching and guidance.

I do worry for Matip and Gomez in the long term re injury and would like to bed in Van Dijk slowly, giving him ample of break in between matches

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We don’t need two cbs, and I very much doubt we will spend 18 m on Kabak and not use that money to help with the purchasing of an attacker.
Oh I think we do. We can't go in to next season with any level of trust in the injured 3, so we need good quality options.

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So the ESL was all just a smoke screen so we could push the Konate deal through with no one looking. Brilliant idea

Or pushing it early before we get a transfer ban!

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Pacy, aerially dominant CBs >

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Oh I think we do. We can't go in to next season with any level of trust in the injured 3, so we need good quality options.

Philips Konate and Davies are three, apart from those three.

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Philips Konate and Davies are three, apart from those three.

If Phillips stays.

We might use this as an opportunity to sell with his stock high.

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By the way lads don't let DN back on the Konate train,he jumped off the classless fucker.

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Philips Konate and Davies are three, apart from those three.

Surely Davies will be off and then it's a choice of Phillips or Kabak.
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Surely Davies will be off

Why?

He's home grown for starters, probably on low(ish) wages.  Klopp said he's adapting.  Given Fabinho & Robertson took months to adapt, I don't see why we'd assume he's going.

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Why?

He's home grown for starters, probably on low(ish) wages.  Klopp said he's adapting. 

Same could probably be said about Van Der Berg and Hoever. Didn't lead to them being squad players though

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Same could probably be said about Van Der Berg and Hoever. Didn't lead to them being squad players though

Both were given chances.

We've not even seen Davies yet.  Klopp is very patient.  I don't think we should assume he's off.

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29 million quid is a fantastic price for a player with his potential

Doubt we’ll sign kabak as well

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Both were given chances.

We've not even seen Davies yet.  Klopp is very patient.  I don't think we should assume he's off.

Over the course of two seasons for both of them, they both played one FA cup game and three league cup game. Wouldn't be shocked if Davies leaves with fewer.

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Here we go soon.
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Here we go soon.

I wonder if we're actually singing a player called Soon

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29 million quid is a fantastic price for a player with his potential

Doubt we’ll sign kabak as well
depends on Matip I reckon.
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Konate and Phillips partnership could be the best in the league.

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You Konaté envision a better signing for us at this moment in time.