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Who do you want as the next labour leader

Keir Starmer
Rebecca Long Bailey
Lisa Nandy
Jess Phillips
Yvette Cooper
Maria Eagle
Andy Burnham
Steve Rotheram
Emily Thornberry
Barry Gardiner
Hilary Benn
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Re: Next Labour leader
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2019, 04:43:03 pm »
Personally I would like Andy Burnham to run but know he's got the Manchester mayor role and would need to stand as an MP.

He's doing a great job in Manchester and the only way we're going to survive the next 5 years is to have powerful councils fighting for more devolved powers and more separation from central Tory government.

Same applies for Rotherham.

Since we're talking about this purely from a popularity contest rather than who is actually capable then Starmer is unfortunately the clear choice out of that list.

There's just no realistic name on that list that sticks out as an leader of the opposition that is going to hold this government to account

After seeing his leadership campaign in 2015 I don't think he is anywhere near good enough. There are already some pointed remarks about MPs hiding in the mayoralties.

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Re: Next Labour leader
« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2019, 04:44:33 pm »
I would keep Corbyn as Foreign Secretary to keep that side happy.

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Re: Next Labour leader
« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2019, 04:47:03 pm »
I would keep Corbyn as Foreign Secretary to keep that side happy.

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« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2019, 05:07:04 pm »
Not sure if serious...



Was thinking that or Defence Minister. Not decided where he would be best placed yet.

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« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2019, 05:11:41 pm »
Not an outstanding crop I think we'd all agree. Would say Starmer is the best by a distance though; experience in the shadow cabinet, smart enough, unifying figure and nothing for the rags to really get stuck in to.

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« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2019, 05:14:03 pm »
Was thinking that or Defence Minister. Not decided where he would be best placed yet.

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« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2019, 05:21:53 pm »
Was thinking that or Defence Minister. Not decided where he would be best placed yet.
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« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2019, 05:23:48 pm »
Was thinking that or Defence Minister. Not decided where he would be best placed yet.

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Re: Next Labour leader
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2019, 06:04:20 pm »
Whats David Milliband upto?
The last I knew, he was working (and living, I think) in the US. I can't imagine him being tempted back in present circumstances.
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« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2019, 06:07:00 pm »
Was thinking that or Defence Minister. Not decided where he would be best placed yet.
A pasture, perhaps?
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« Reply #52 on: December 18, 2019, 07:44:57 pm »
This man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jx-FxjPPSc&t=66s
rather him than Starmer got more charisma,  but i would still personally like Nandy
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« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2019, 08:52:57 pm »
rather him than Starmer got more charisma,  but i would still personally like Nandy

Lisa Nandy for me too. She’s excellent.

I see Emily Thornberry has thrown her hat in the ring. I’d be surprised if the chubster won. She’s be an awful leader.
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Re: Next Labour leader
« Reply #54 on: December 18, 2019, 08:54:27 pm »
Lisa Nandy for me too. She’s excellent.
I know absolutely nothing about her.

Not being Long Bailey, Burgeon or Thornberry instantly make her a favourite for me.
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« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2019, 08:58:50 pm »
I know absolutely nothing about her.

Not being Long Bailey, Burgeon or Thornberry instantly make her a favourite for me.

Lisa Nandy is the outstanding candidate for many reasons. Articulate, straight talker, super bright, centre left values, female, northern, young ... all of this makes her a very electable figurehead in 5 years time. She’s also not part of Corbyn’s inner circle, yet not a bland Blairite. She’d represent a bright new direction for Labour.
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« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2019, 09:08:03 pm »
I know absolutely nothing about her.

Not being Long Bailey, Burgeon or Thornberry instantly make her a favourite for me.

Neither do I. A quick browse leads me to believe she's renowned for her passion for towns. Considering Labour are haemorrhaging them it could be worse I suppose.

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« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2019, 09:10:16 pm »
Nandy is ok I guess but I think she would struggle with the pressure of the job and you will get sick of the amount of times she says “...towns like mine”.

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« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2019, 09:15:30 pm »
Benn or Starmer for me. Both would be good at the despatch box, though maybe Benn brings more charisma.

The worry for me with Benn would be the use of his hard Left father against him and the very nasty headlines that could bring, and the hard left telling him how ashamed his father would be of him etc etc. If I’m overthinking that and it doesn’t look like an issue, then he’s probably my second choice after Starmer.
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« Reply #59 on: December 18, 2019, 09:18:49 pm »
Nandy is ok I guess but I think she would struggle with the pressure of the job and you will get sick of the amount of times she says “...towns like mine”.

I think she’s nice enough, but I can see her getting torn to shreds by the Neanderthals of the Tory back benches and press, she just seems a bit soft. As least with Phillips you know she’ll give as good as she gets, I just don’t see that with Nandy at all
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« Reply #60 on: December 18, 2019, 09:19:43 pm »
Things I didn't know about Lisa Nandy: her father is described as an "Indian Marxist academic", and her mother is the daughter of a Liberal Peer. She says her father thinks she is right wing.
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« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2019, 09:20:15 pm »
Lisa Nandy would be  great choice, not many come off Sofia Ridge show so impressive.

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« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2019, 09:25:08 pm »
I think she’s nice enough, but I can see her getting torn to shreds by the Neanderthals of the Tory back benches and press, she just seems a bit soft. As least with Phillips you know she’ll give as good as she gets, I just don’t see that with Nandy at all

Phillips would give as good as she got but she has been dragged into too many identity politics debates and arguments. Same with Lammy.




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« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2019, 10:47:41 pm »
Clive Lewis:

Clive Anthony Lewis[1] (born 11 September 1971) is a British Labour politician who has been the Member of Parliament (MP) for Norwich South since winning the seat at the 2015 general election.[2]

He studied at the University of Bradford before being elected to various student union roles and then serving as vice-president of the National Union of Students. Lewis then worked as a TV reporter for BBC News, becoming BBC Look East's chief political correspondent. He was also one of the Labour government's National Black Role Models. In 2006, he passed out of Sandhurst as an infantry officer with the Territorial Army, and he served a three-month tour of duty in Afghanistan in 2009.

Appointed to Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet as Shadow Secretary of State for Defence in June 2016,[3] Lewis was appointed Shadow Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy in the October 2016 reshuffle. He left the Shadow Cabinet on 8 February 2017 in protest over the Labour Party's decision to whip its MPs into voting to trigger Article 50,[4] but rejoined the front bench a year later.

Born in London, Lewis grew up on a council estate in Northampton, the son of a single father.[5] He was the first member of his family to attend university, reading economics at the University of Bradford before being elected student union president, and later vice-president of the National Union of Students.[6] In November 1995, he was a signatory to a letter that argued for the abolition of student loans, saying "Any loans system will be unfair".[7]
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Re: Next Labour leader
« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2019, 10:57:24 pm »
Lisa Nandy would be  great choice, not many come off Sofia Ridge show so impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxvSjiIPWX4


Never heard her speak before. She's good, very good. Has to be in a major shadow cabinet post at minimum. If not leader, deputy leader i can see her excelling at.

Lewis and Nandy as leader/deputy either way and Starmer shadow chancellor from the runners and riders so far.

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« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2019, 10:58:49 pm »
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« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2019, 11:14:14 pm »
Never heard her speak before. She's good, very good. Has to be in a major shadow cabinet post at minimum. If not leader, deputy leader i can see her excelling at.

Lewis and Nandy as leader/deputy either way and Starmer shadow chancellor from the runners and riders so far.
Yeah, same here to be honest, it's not that I agree with everything she says and am not even sure if she has the solutions to the problems she's talking about but you can see people sat at home being impressed.comes over as someone who cares, knows what shes talking about, good answers to some difficult questions.
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« Reply #67 on: December 18, 2019, 11:22:13 pm »
Clive Lewis:

Clive Anthony Lewis[1] (born 11 September 1971) is a British Labour politician who has been the Member of Parliament (MP) for Norwich South since winning the seat at the 2015 general election.[2]

He studied at the University of Bradford before being elected to various student union roles and then serving as vice-president of the National Union of Students. Lewis then worked as a TV reporter for BBC News, becoming BBC Look East's chief political correspondent. He was also one of the Labour government's National Black Role Models. In 2006, he passed out of Sandhurst as an infantry officer with the Territorial Army, and he served a three-month tour of duty in Afghanistan in 2009.

Appointed to Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet as Shadow Secretary of State for Defence in June 2016,[3] Lewis was appointed Shadow Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy in the October 2016 reshuffle. He left the Shadow Cabinet on 8 February 2017 in protest over the Labour Party's decision to whip its MPs into voting to trigger Article 50,[4] but rejoined the front bench a year later.

Born in London, Lewis grew up on a council estate in Northampton, the son of a single father.[5] He was the first member of his family to attend university, reading economics at the University of Bradford before being elected student union president, and later vice-president of the National Union of Students.[6] In November 1995, he was a signatory to a letter that argued for the abolition of student loans, saying "Any loans system will be unfair".[7]
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« Reply #68 on: December 18, 2019, 11:23:23 pm »
Yeah, same here to be honest, it's not that I agree with everything she says and am not even sure if she has the solutions to the problems she's talking about but you can see people sat at home being impressed.comes over as someone who cares, knows what shes talking about, good answers to some difficult questions.

There was no equivocation at all, every question was answered fully and with a honesty, depth of thought and understanding which is very rare to hear these days from a politician. I'd trust her and would also expect to see an very competent leader doing the right things at the right times for the right reasons.

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« Reply #69 on: December 18, 2019, 11:25:56 pm »
There was no equivocation at all, every question was answered fully and with a honesty, depth of thought and understanding which is very rare to hear these days from a politician. I'd trust her and would also expect to see an very competent leader doing the right things at the right times for the right reasons.

Im a fan now anyway 😁
Oh Lisa Nandy oh Lisa Nandy. :)
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« Reply #70 on: December 18, 2019, 11:39:34 pm »
”on your knees bitch” will make an easy ad for the tories
They have Boris as their leader and if that's all they have on Lewis he shouldn't be too worried.

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« Reply #71 on: December 18, 2019, 11:42:41 pm »
Oh Lisa Nandy oh Lisa Nandy. :)
looks a bit too much like Sarah sanders for me ;)

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looks a bit too much like Sarah sanders for me ;)
Could be worse,she could of looked a bit like Bernie Sanders. :)
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And Colonel Sanders didn't work out too well.
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« Reply #74 on: December 19, 2019, 12:40:17 am »
And Colonel Sanders didn't work out too well.
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« Reply #77 on: December 19, 2019, 08:37:39 am »
”on your knees bitch” will make an easy ad for the tories

I’m not sure people care, they certainly didn’t when it came to Johnson and his behaviour with women, his wife, his girlfriend etc
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« Reply #78 on: December 19, 2019, 08:38:39 am »
Phillips would give as good as she got but she has been dragged into too many identity politics debates and arguments. Same with Lammy.



I don’t think anyone has suggested Lammy have they?
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« Reply #79 on: December 19, 2019, 08:47:03 am »
Where's the Lisa Nandy hype come from? Barely heard of her before last week. I saw an interview she gave yesterday and she looks like a rabbit in the headlights, had this weird frightened look on her face all the way through.