Author Topic: ANNE - 4pt drama 2nd-5th Jan 2022 ITV // UNFINISHED BUSINESS Documentary 6th Jan  (Read 17105 times)

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That was a really difficult watch and I mean that as a compliment to the writing and acting. The first 30 or so minutes were completely heartbreaking, I was crying through lots of it.

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Very hard watch for those of us who followed the events on the day via the TV/Radio so no idea how the families and the survivors felt.

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Brilliant acting, very emotional and hard to watch, the whitewash has begun  :no
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The part we’re the guy gave them petrol after they had run out reminded me of the generosity of the locals coming out and offering there phones so we could phone our loved ones

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The part we’re the guy gave them petrol after they had run out reminded me of the generosity of the locals coming out and offering thier phones so we could phone our loved ones

Yes, I remember that, people quietly queuing outside the houses of people to use their phone on that main road there. I wasn't just the odd house either, it was most of them.

Got a feeling the phone lines went down, I just went straight back to the coach and Evesway were sending them back as soon as they were full enough to get us back asap rather than worrying about whether you were on the correct one. 
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Where you all watching, Irish TV has it on the 5th?
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As a United fan even I find this a tough watch,  we have our differences as fans but this is one thing that we should all be United on (pardon the pun). I had heard that the journalists were even more scumbags than usual, but that was particularly disgusting, and The Sun 🤬🤬🤬🤬 I never bought that rag anyway and anyone who does us zero intelligence. Well done for fighting for as long as it took to get justice. YNWA.

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As a United fan even I find this a tough watch,  we have our differences as fans but this is one thing that we should all be United on (pardon the pun). I had heard that the journalists were even more scumbags than usual, but that was particularly disgusting, and The S*n 🤬🤬🤬🤬 I never bought that rag anyway and anyone who does us zero intelligence. Well done for fighting for as long as it took to get justice. YNWA.
Welcome to the forum fella  :)
Hopefully it'll open a few more eyes, with fans of other clubs, as to what actually went on.

I've corrected your spelling of the shitty rag  :wave
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Welcome to the forum fella  :)
Hopefully it'll open a few more eyes, with fans of other clubs, as to what actually went on.

I've corrected your spelling of the shitty rag  :wave

And yet not one person has seen any jail time, I am a parent myself and I could not possibly imagine the grief suffered by the families of the 96. I say again……well done for the continued fight.

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97 now MU mate. Please continue to watch and encourage others.
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Where you all watching, Irish TV has it on the 5th?
It’s on ITV, try the ITV hub or Britbox perhaps? (Although not sure they’re available in Ireland)

Edit: just looked at the ITV Hub and all 4 episodes are on there for those of you looking to avoid the adverts. Although I found the ad breaks for once provided a much needed break
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Posted this on my Facebook and thought I'd put it in here. I felt a bit of a fraud going to the inquest if I'm honest but it was a huge honour.



I've just watched the first 2 episodes of Anne, on ITV Hub and I'm in bits. It reminded me of the honour and privilege I had in meeting Anne Williams briefly along with my good friend Harinder Singh on what seemed at the time a momentous and happy day at the inquest at the Royal Courts of Justice in London in 2012, when I took the photo below.


I've drifted away from the LFC forums and matches over the years and therefore sadly lost touch with many great friends, including several survivors and many who have worked tirelessly over decades to get the real truth out there. But I have always had, and will always have the deepest awe and respect for the relatives of those who died on that awful and fully preventable day, and for those who never, ever stopped seeking justice. They are the very, very best of people.


At a time of year when there's the usual bickering over who did or didn't get MBEs or OBEs, I'm reminded that the true heroes and heroines of this world are actually people like Anne Williams. Her fight for the truth about what happened to her son Kevin and her fight for justice against all the odds was simply unstoppable and she never, ever gave up in her search for the truth. The strength she had was truly inspiring and hers is a story that needed to be told.


The Hillsborough story is one of incredible tragedy but also one of outrageous lies and cover ups. It is an appalling stain on this country's history and so its a very good thing that Kevin Sampson wrote this and that its being aired on national television. Sadly real justice will not now be done but at least Anne was able to live to hear that the lies were proven, unequivocally, to be just that.


Anne is a must watch on ITV and Maxine Peake's performance is stunning. It's not a fun or happy watch, but it's gripping, gritty, heartbreaking and just so important. Please do watch it.


RIP Anne, you were the true Iron Lady.


https://www.itv.com/hub/anne/2a5505a0001
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Yes, I remember that, people quietly queuing outside the houses of people to use their phone on that main road there. I wasn't just the odd house either, it was most of them.

Got a feeling the phone lines went down, I just went straight back to the coach and Evesway were sending them back as soon as they were full enough to get us back asap rather than worrying about whether you were on the correct one. 

Yes the ordinary people of Sheffield were magnificent that day. I will always remember a pensioner opening her door and allowing anyone to phone home and tell their loved ones they were safe.

Compare that to the sock puppets who gave evidence to the two Taylor inquiries and the two Coroners inquests. The sock puppets often relatives of senior   South Yorkshire Police officers attempted to portray Liverpool fans as a lawless tanked up mob.

Amazing how the first person to phone the Hillsborough evidence phone line was the daughter of a senior SYP officer who to this day besmirches the good name of Liverpool fans. Incredible how senior officers who retired rather than face disciplinary action still peddle disgusting lies about fan behaviour. 
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Posted this on my Facebook and thought I'd put it in here. I felt a bit of a fraud going to the inquest if I'm honest but it was a huge honour.



I've just watched the first 2 episodes of Anne, on ITV Hub and I'm in bits. It reminded me of the honour and privilege I had in meeting Anne Williams briefly along with my good friend Harinder Singh on what seemed at the time a momentous and happy day at the inquest at the Royal Courts of Justice in London in 2012, when I took the photo below.


I've drifted away from the LFC forums and matches over the years and therefore sadly lost touch with many great friends, including several survivors and many who have worked tirelessly over decades to get the real truth out there. But I have always had, and will always have the deepest awe and respect for the relatives of those who died on that awful and fully preventable day, and for those who never, ever stopped seeking justice. They are the very, very best of people.


At a time of year when there's the usual bickering over who did or didn't get MBEs or OBEs, I'm reminded that the true heroes and heroines of this world are actually people like Anne Williams. Her fight for the truth about what happened to her son Kevin and her fight for justice against all the odds was simply unstoppable and she never, ever gave up in her search for the truth. The strength she had was truly inspiring and hers is a story that needed to be told.


The Hillsborough story is one of incredible tragedy but also one of outrageous lies and cover ups. It is an appalling stain on this country's history and so its a very good thing that Kevin Samson wrote this and that its being aired on national television. Sadly real justice will not now be done but at least Anne was able to live to hear that the lies were proven, unequivocally, to be just that.


Anne is a must watch on ITV and Maxine Peake's performance is stunning. It's not a fun or happy watch, but it's gripping, gritty, heartbreaking and just so important. Please do watch it.


RIP Anne, you were the true Iron Lady.


https://www.itv.com/hub/anne/2a5505a0001

A truly incredible woman, who manged to fight with incredible ferocity combined with absolute dignity.
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It’s on ITV, try the ITV hub or Britbox perhaps? (Although not sure they’re available in Ireland)

Edit: just looked at the ITV Hub and all 4 episodes are on there for those of you looking to avoid the adverts. Although I found the ad breaks for once provided a much needed break

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It’s on ITV, try the ITV hub or Britbox perhaps? (Although not sure they’re available in Ireland)

Edit: just looked at the ITV Hub and all 4 episodes are on there for those of you looking to avoid the adverts. Although I found the ad breaks for once provided a much needed break
On the ITV hub via Sky > on demand only 1 episode is showing, how can we access 4 via Sky?

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On the ITV hub via Sky > on demand only 1 episode is showing, how can we access 4 via Sky?

You can’t get that access via Sky John, the Sky version of the ITV hub is only a very barebones version, to get the proper ITV hub you can download it through your smart tv or Fire TV stick.

I watched the first episode of Anne last night, it brought it all flooding back especially when I saw that clip of Paul Middup from SYP saying they were totally blameless, this being in time before mobile phones or social media meant as soon as he said that, it had already gone around the world before the fans could defend themselves and their mates and in the eyes of the gutter press it was simply a case scousers moaning and blaming everyone else again, all this despite the Taylor report totally exonerating the fans of blame!

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Yes the ordinary people of Sheffield were magnificent that day. I will always remember a pensioner opening her door and allowing anyone to phone home and tell their loved ones they were safe.

Compare that to the sock puppets who gave evidence to the two Taylor inquiries and the two Coroners inquests. The sock puppets often relatives of senior   South Yorkshire Police officers attempted to portray Liverpool fans as a lawless tanked up mob.

Amazing how the first person to phone the Hillsborough evidence phone line was the daughter of a senior SYP officer who to this day besmirches the good name of Liverpool fans. Incredible how senior officers who retired rather than face disciplinary action still peddle disgusting lies about fan behaviour. 
This is what makes it such a hard watch, and I haven't managed it yet. Anne gave up so much and because of her, the other families and the survivors, we eventually had the truth acknowledged by officialdom. But we have not had justice. It seems that we never will have justice. Duckenfield remains on his golf course while one by one we lose the truly good and great.

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As a United fan even I find this a tough watch,  we have our differences as fans but this is one thing that we should all be United on (pardon the pun). I had heard that the journalists were even more scumbags than usual, but that was particularly disgusting, and The Sun 🤬🤬🤬🤬 I never bought that rag anyway and anyone who does us zero intelligence. Well done for fighting for as long as it took to get justice. YNWA.

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when I saw that clip of Paul Middup from SWP saying they were totally blameless,
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Thanks mate, will check it out.
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I thought it was a difficult watch but a necessary one. Excellent writing from Kev Sampson and I thought Maxine Peake did a good job. It’s a heartbreaking story, what a woman Anne Williams was.

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We know what you mean. I think I cried twice which is something I don’t do.

Just finished episode one. Found it difficult and cried several times myself. Your profile picture is appropriate. The flowers, scarves, shirts and umbrellas layed out in front of the kop, decked out in colours of all club's still get me to this day. I was 8 at the time and I knew something was wrong with the way it was reported right there and then thanks to several people who are my elders. What I didn't understand until my early teens was the corruption and the sheer scale of it.
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It was a really eerie watch for me, seeing places in Formby that I grew up around, seeing my old school and seeing the tribute that we put together for Kev was really weird. Those opening scenes with Kev arguing with his mum and dad were a proper jolt for me.
Watching ep 2 tonight live as I can’t imagine binging it like I normally would. I can only deal with an hour at a time, but that’s no reflection on the programme. Brilliantly written by Sampson and an incredible performance from Maxine Peake as ever.

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Stunning acting brilliant script , plenty of tears shed and seeing some faces created the anger that will always be in me, my young daughter watched it with me.
 She was too young to understand it at the time or too fully appreciate just how hard these decades have been fighting for justice, but after the first one she now understands !  I only hope many more will now understand as well:
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I hope as many non football fans watch this. I’m afraid I can’t. There is just too much anger in me and in the way they were treated and continue to do so for me. But it is a story that has to be told for this amazing lady and the heartbreaking consequences surrounding their lives. YNWA.
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Just watched it all. In bits. Remember watching it live on Irish TV all those years ago. What an amazing woman.
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Difficult watch, just finished the last three episodes now. Had to go on a late night walk for some air.

Harrowing. Anne’s strength and determination is an inspiration.

Maxine Peake’s portrayal of Anne is really exceptional and I thought the scriptwriting was well done.

Urge all to watch and get others, including non-football fans, to give it a watch. Really important. Just to note after the first episode it isn’t quite as difficult/emotional so if you’ve watched one episode and stopped, maybe give it a go again in a few days.

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Posted this on my Facebook and thought I'd put it in here. I felt a bit of a fraud going to the inquest if I'm honest but it was a huge honour.



I've just watched the first 2 episodes of Anne, on ITV Hub and I'm in bits. It reminded me of the honour and privilege I had in meeting Anne Williams briefly along with my good friend Harinder Singh on what seemed at the time a momentous and happy day at the inquest at the Royal Courts of Justice in London in 2012, when I took the photo below.


I've drifted away from the LFC forums and matches over the years and therefore sadly lost touch with many great friends, including several survivors and many who have worked tirelessly over decades to get the real truth out there. But I have always had, and will always have the deepest awe and respect for the relatives of those who died on that awful and fully preventable day, and for those who never, ever stopped seeking justice. They are the very, very best of people.


At a time of year when there's the usual bickering over who did or didn't get MBEs or OBEs, I'm reminded that the true heroes and heroines of this world are actually people like Anne Williams. Her fight for the truth about what happened to her son Kevin and her fight for justice against all the odds was simply unstoppable and she never, ever gave up in her search for the truth. The strength she had was truly inspiring and hers is a story that needed to be told.


The Hillsborough story is one of incredible tragedy but also one of outrageous lies and cover ups. It is an appalling stain on this country's history and so its a very good thing that Kevin Sampson wrote this and that its being aired on national television. Sadly real justice will not now be done but at least Anne was able to live to hear that the lies were proven, unequivocally, to be just that.


Anne is a must watch on ITV and Maxine Peake's performance is stunning. It's not a fun or happy watch, but it's gripping, gritty, heartbreaking and just so important. Please do watch it.


RIP Anne, you were the true Iron Lady.


https://www.itv.com/hub/anne/2a5505a0001

Cheers for that James. I remember seeing you on that day too and also had the pleasure of very briefly meeting Anne. I was lost for words.

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Watched first 2 episodes. Disappointment after disappointment. tremendous strain on the family yet Anne and many others refused to give up.
Phil Scraton put it well in a debate one night, they did this out of love, yes it was about getting truth and justice but it was also love for their loved ones that drove them on.
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Have watched the 1st episode. Absolutely heartbreaking.....I cracked at the scene with the pictures of the fans on the wall.

I'm not from Liverpool and I was only 9 when the tragedy happened. I can't imagine what the families have been through and continue to fight for.

God bless them all. YNWA JFT97
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Interesting that this is going out this week opposite Four Lives on BBC1, another true story of institutional police incompetence and corruption. Although this took place 30 years after Hillsborougjh. Unsurprisingly, nothing changes in the establishment for ordinary people.

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Does anyone have a link for a way to watch this outside of the UK? I tried the ymovies link but it didn't work for me for some reason. Thanks.

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Does anyone have a link for a way to watch this outside of the UK? I tried the ymovies link but it didn't work for me for some reason. Thanks.

Try these, mate:-

Episode 1: https://streamtape.com/v/gvyAG012RGTq1BD
Episode 2: https://scloud.online/v/dZW0MWYQaPHkrxJ
Episode 3: https://scloud.online/v/VmP2jzbbK1tK24X
Episode 4: https://scloud.online/v/8dx3MG7QRRHovZ3
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Two episodes in and it's been excellent and has done justice to the battle and emotions we've all felt.  Peake is outstanding, that first episode was a really tough watch.
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