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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1000 on: September 19, 2010, 05:37:24 pm »
-- Quote from: shockwave_dave on Today at 05:21:28 PM ---
Don't even get this attitude. Rafa's record against united in his early years with us, was shite

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Agree, i think its only fair to compare tonights results with rafa first performance against the mancs.


Can't agree with this. Rafa in his earlier years was adjusting to a new team and a new league. With Roy, you could excuse he's lack of familiarity with the team but not the league. He's played Man U at OT lots of times before. I'd be interested to know if he's ever won there?

Another point: I can't understand the logic of those who compare the dross we've seen so far with what happened last season and say that Roy's doing no worse than Rafa did then. I don't find the thought that our team under Roy is "only" as bad as it was in Rafa's worst season at all comforting.

This season is depressing me sooo much. We're fucked both on and off the pitch it seems.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1001 on: September 19, 2010, 05:37:58 pm »

Don't even get this attitude. Rafa's record against united in his early years with us, was shite

Really? I've seen us go there and look unlikely to score more times than I can count in the last twenty years or so.

Inspid lifeless performances against them up the road have on the whole pretty much been our calling card in the league ..........they certainly were for the first few years under Rafa, and Ged didnt start all that cleverly against them either.

He improved though so now it appears we are going backwards.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1002 on: September 19, 2010, 05:38:28 pm »
Can I have some of whatever Roy's been drinking?

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/roy-s-united-verdict

"Our goal at the start of the season was to compete for a Champions League place, but perhaps that means you are automatically going to compete for the league because quite often the difference between first and fourth place isn't a vast number of points.

"If we are good enough to get into the top four, who knows, maybe we can get closer to the number one position.

"I won't say we can't do it, nor will I say we can do it."

Why not? He was criticised for saying we won't win the league, today he's said let's try?

We have, so far the same amount of points as in the equivalent fixtures last season. Now let's give it a go. Sunderland and Blackpool will show whether we are crap or not. 6 points minimum.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1003 on: September 19, 2010, 05:39:02 pm »
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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1004 on: September 19, 2010, 05:39:08 pm »
I dont have anything against Roy.


But i felt we should have went with lucas instead of poulsen or raul.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1005 on: September 19, 2010, 05:39:10 pm »
this is the starting lineup i want to see for all leauge games from now on

                           reina
kelly        Soto  Agger   Aurelio(if fit)
                  lucas  Raul
gerrard          joe cole             jovanovic
                     Torres

Bench: Kuyt, Ngog, carra, poulsen, babel, jones

I'd pretty much agree with all that, although I would start Kuyt over Jovanovic. Gerrard behind Torres and Cole on the left.

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« Reply #1006 on: September 19, 2010, 05:39:41 pm »
No wonder they brought Roy in; he's to blame for the shite team and squad now.  I had it down to them cowboys who let quality leave to pay the bills

It's Hicks and Gilette who are to blame for this shit squad, inability to keep talent, inability to replace talent. Roy is just a bloke who had a chance at managing Liverpool and took it.  In an ideal world Rafa would of been given the money to take us to the next level - instead we lined the pockets ofthe owners

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« Reply #1007 on: September 19, 2010, 05:39:43 pm »
The most worrying thing for me today was Nando, he looks really short of confidence and fitness and most importantly his body language was not good from what I saw

I don't think he got one decent ball to work with all day. When he pushed forward to put them under pressure, he was the only one trying. Can't expect him to shine then.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1008 on: September 19, 2010, 05:39:56 pm »
Well, it was a bit tongue in cheek, but I respect your opinion.

The thing is, I find it really very difficult to get behind and support someone who has been hired by everything I hate about this club and everything I absolutely despise about football in general. I'm basically unable to show compassion or support for someone brought in to be a yes man by the very people we want rid of. I find it difficult to get past the FACT that his record in this league, bar one good season last year, is appalling, and that he's here to do their bidding.

I'll admit one thing, none of that is his fault. But I'm not going to pussyfoot around the fact that he isn't good enough, and in comparison to our last manager (who hilariously was deemed not good enough) is the bottom of the barrell. Our ex-manager went straight to the European and Italian Champions, and we got someone who has been around a lot, with hardly any success, and managed Fulham. I'm just finding that difficult to accept, and if I'm to fully understand why Roy Hodgson deserves to be manager of Liverpool FC then I'm afraid I need to have something to go on. Right now there's nothing to suggest that's coming.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to start going around shouting "Hodgson out!" and expecting people to join in, I'm just saying he needs to prove he deserves this job.

Fair dos. Like you say, none of this is Roy's fault. But I do think his team will improve and we'll see a decent team emerge this season.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1009 on: September 19, 2010, 05:40:42 pm »
People need to look at the bigger picture here, our performances have been shocking.
We scored today from 2 set pieces, apart from that their keeper had nothing to do, that is the worring thing

we are not battering teams, aka chelsea, arsenal, manutd, they are all averaging 3 goals a game, on in chelseas case 10
No where near enough chances created in games, we are replying on a few chances and to take one of them, its all percentages
ANother worring point was their goals, all from crosses into our box, just like i posted yesterday that would happen, birmingham also last week
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we have sold quality and replaced them with average, raul looks good though


I completely agree with your bolded part.

But, for me, this has been going on for over a year. It's Rafa's teams problems carried into Roy's

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1010 on: September 19, 2010, 05:41:02 pm »
I've just had a look at our fixture list. This is our league run in from now until the end of November.

Sunderland - Home
Blackpool - Home
Everton - Away
Blackpool - Home
Chelsea - Home
Wigan - Away
Stoke -Away
West Ham - Home

This has to be where we kick start our season.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1011 on: September 19, 2010, 05:41:19 pm »
I don't think he got one decent ball to work with all day. When he pushed forward to put them under pressure, he was the only one trying. Can't expect him to shine then.

Agree
He got 2 balls through to him and created 2 goals. Before that he was completely isolated and had to come back to the half way line to pick up anything. Can't expect anything from him if he is feeding off scraps

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« Reply #1012 on: September 19, 2010, 05:41:40 pm »
I'm not being facetious here, but do you draw a line between supporting the manager and supporting upper management at the club? Because the previous manager was hired by a different regime, one that we didn't have much in the way of outward hatred for. This one was appointed by folks who we have the utmost contempt for. Does that not play into your thinking, because it certainly plays into mine. Again, I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm just trying to explain my own complex feelings. 

It would help if Hodgson gave me some pride. Today was the perfect opportunity. A United team that's shit at the back, that is shipping goals, that cannot hold a lead, that just sufferred a devastating injury to their best wide player, that has a so-called World Class forward that's firing blanks, and that just coughed up 2 goals in the 90th minute to an abject Everton side. Ferguson comes out pre-match and completely changes the subject, suggesting Rafa was shit, and our owners aren't that bad (it should be noted that United fans are fucking furious that Ginsoak doesn't embrace their Norwich scarves).

We on the other hand haven't started out very badly, sure it could be better, but we were on a high having won 4-1 midweek, and we could have taken advantage. Hodgson could have gotten into Ginsoak's head, talking about how they're blowing leads right left and center, or something along those lines. He could have gotten a result, which would have gone a long way towards cementing the support that you so crave. But he didn't. Instead the word Berbaflop will forever now be countered with hattrick against Liverpool.

He's not doing himself any favours. They were there for the taking today. And we couldn't take advantage.

That makes it murky now. If you want to criticise Roy for being appointed by this board, then fair enough. But should those criticisms be football related? Do Rafa's fuck ups (and how many times did we think he should have gone for the jugular rather than take the more 'conservative' approach at times?) mean less than Roy's because of the people they were hired by were different?

It's funny because everything Roy's getting criticised for is the same things Rafa used to get criticised for. The result at OT last season was shite as well, and that's when we went 1-0 up!

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1013 on: September 19, 2010, 05:41:49 pm »
The reality of modern day football is unless you have some oil rich meglomaniac owning your club you don't stand a chance of competing at the top. Football has become a fucking joke, not worth getting upset about anymore.
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« Reply #1014 on: September 19, 2010, 05:41:55 pm »
It wasn't though. Today was different to what I've seen us do there over the last few years.

indeed, that gutless 2-0 defeat springs to mind
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« Reply #1015 on: September 19, 2010, 05:42:02 pm »
I've just had a look at our fixture list. This is our league run in from now until the end of November.

Sunderland - Home
Blackpool - Home
Everton - Away
Blackpool - Home
Chelsea - Home
Wigan - Away
Stoke -Away
West Ham - Home

This has to be where we kick start our season.

Hopefully we'll beat Blackpool at home then, we get two cracks at it!

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« Reply #1016 on: September 19, 2010, 05:42:25 pm »
I've just had a look at our fixture list. This is our league run in from now until the end of November.

Sunderland - Home
Blackpool - Home
Everton - Away
Blackpool - Home
Chelsea - Home
Wigan - Away
Stoke -Away
West Ham - Home

This has to be where we kick start our season.

playing Blackpool at home twice must be an advantage

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« Reply #1017 on: September 19, 2010, 05:43:35 pm »
I've just had a look at our fixture list. This is our league run in from now until the end of November.

Sunderland - Home
Blackpool - Home
Everton - Away
Blackpool - Home
Chelsea - Home
Wigan - Away
Stoke -Away
West Ham - Home

This has to be where we kick start our season.

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« Reply #1018 on: September 19, 2010, 05:44:17 pm »
indeed, that gutless 2-0 defeat springs to mind

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« Reply #1019 on: September 19, 2010, 05:44:34 pm »
Can I have some of whatever Roy's been drinking?

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/roy-s-united-verdict

"Our goal at the start of the season was to compete for a Champions League place, but perhaps that means you are automatically going to compete for the league because quite often the difference between first and fourth place isn't a vast number of points.

"If we are good enough to get into the top four, who knows, maybe we can get closer to the number one position.

"I won't say we can't do it, nor will I say we can do it."

Finally we have stated the obvious, that we should compete for a top four spot.

I agree with Roy, that we shouldn't rule out a title challenge. And for the hundredth time: it doesn't mean I expect us to win, nor that I think we should sack the manager if we fail to win the PL.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1020 on: September 19, 2010, 05:44:42 pm »
They were all over us for the first 15 mins or so. Very lucky not to go 1 or 2 down. After this we got hold of the ball, and held onto it well enough, although had no penetration whatsoever.
Same old story, can't say I'm surprised.
We had no width, and Maxi/Cole out wide just didn't work for us.
Well why did he start with Maxi. Has trickery but no pace. Save him for the other lesser teams. Great in mid week against inferior opposition, but should never have started this game.
When Maxi was replaced by Ngog on about 50 mins, and we sent 2 up front, we pretty much immediately looked better and created a couple of reasonable chances, both of which the Manc defenders gifted us (a pen and a fk). At the back, we were good when the ball was on the ground, but woeful when the ball came in the air (3 goals all from the air). I'd probably give us a 4/10 all up to be honest.

4-4-2 away from home means we are going to the opposing teams ground intent on winning. 4-5-1 away from home is shite. More or less been found out have to change it up.
Don't think Roy has the tactical sense to work with 4-5-1.
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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1021 on: September 19, 2010, 05:44:50 pm »
I've just had a look at our fixture list. This is our league run in from now until the end of November.

Sunderland - Home
Blackpool - Home
Everton - Away
Blackpool - Home
Chelsea - Home
Wigan - Away
Stoke -Away
West Ham - Home

This has to be where we kick start our season.

Great! We play Blackpool at home twice!

Seriously, I would expect us to take 14 points from those games. Realistically I can see us taking 10-11.

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« Reply #1022 on: September 19, 2010, 05:45:06 pm »
playing Blackpool at home twice must be an advantage
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« Reply #1023 on: September 19, 2010, 05:45:08 pm »
Just sat back, invited pressure and then allowed countless crosses to go into the box.

When we cannot defend in the air.

Every time an opposing team sends in a cross or corner kick, I expect them to score.  And yet, we're not closing down space.

Mancs knew what they were doing.  Just like Brum did, only Reina saved us then.
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« Reply #1024 on: September 19, 2010, 05:45:16 pm »
No wonder they brought Roy in; he's to blame for the shite team and squad now.  I had it down to them cowboys who let quality leave to pay the bills

It's Hicks and Gilette who are to blame for this shit squad, inability to keep talent, inability to replace talent. Roy is just a bloke who had a chance at managing Liverpool and took it.  In an ideal world Rafa would of been given the money to take us to the next level - instead we lined the pockets ofthe owners

Let's not forget the real reason behind our decline

This.

I find it hard to criticise Roy that much, when we only came 7th last year and have since lost players like Mascherano. If you're going to get £25M for a player and then given say £10m to pay for a replacement, the quality is bound to diminish. And Roy's starting off from a shite basis already.

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« Reply #1025 on: September 19, 2010, 05:45:20 pm »
We may have been set up defensively previously, but we let Man Utd play today and didn't press them at all, let them work the ball and get crosses in against players who are presently struggling with balls into the box. Offensively, I don't think we were set up right today, we looked ponderous in possession and I think Gerrard needed to be swapped with Meireles with Lucas brought in. That, I think, would have added more to our attacking play.
The post your replying to there, and many, many others just utterly reinforces a long held view of mine - namely that most people don't actually watch football at all. They watch results, and they watch players, but they don't really watch the football. Their verdict on how the match went is entirely determined by hindsight, based on the results, with performances rated according to a) how much they liked the players in the first place and b) how much hugely memorable eye-catching stuff they did on the pitch. It's got absolutely bugger all to do with the balance of play.

The tactical differences between Roy's and Rafa's Liverpool side are huge and numerous, and indeed completely obvious (you would think), that so many don't see it just shows how poorly tactics are understood. The media reaction is completely telling as well - I haven't heard anything about the lack of pressing or the narrowness, or the fact we're setting up the same week in week out. In short, the media analyse games exactly the same way - they look at results, determine an agenda and won't change that unless there's a big change in results.

That's why commentators will bang on about how beautiful and attacking Man Utd are (and indeed as will fans), in the mist of tedious run of 14 grinding 1-0 wins which reminded me of nothing more than Arsenal under Graham. It's a major problem with football in this country at all levels of the game, and something I find profoundly depressing.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1026 on: September 19, 2010, 05:45:40 pm »
playing Blackpool at home twice must be an advantage

dont really think it would be an advantage for us....they won away at newcastle last week :D
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« Reply #1027 on: September 19, 2010, 05:45:43 pm »
We may have been set up defensively previously, but we let Man Utd play today and didn't press them at all, let them work the ball and get crosses in against players who are presently struggling with balls into the box. Offensively, I don't think we were set up right today, we looked ponderous in possession and I think Gerrard needed to be swapped with Meireles with Lucas brought in. That, I think, would have added more to our attacking play.

No mistake about it.......we were shite. Vulnerable at the back, short of ideas in possession and our best players are managing to stay perhipheral to everything going on on the pitch. Truth told we have been that bad from the start of the season in the league and today was just a continuation of what we saw at Brum which for my money was far more concerning than anything we saw today.

Point is i've seen us go to Old Trafford in great form and still dish up exactly that again and again........ usually conceding in the last ten minutes just to rub salt into the wounds of repeatedly shite performances.

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« Reply #1028 on: September 19, 2010, 05:46:13 pm »
Of all the short sighted 'not getting it' posts I've had the displeasure to read, that takes the biscuit.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1029 on: September 19, 2010, 05:46:40 pm »
It's funny because everything Roy's getting criticised for is the same things Rafa used to get criticised for. The result at OT last season was shite as well, and that's when we went 1-0 up!

Don't you find it funny that for a manager allegedly appointed because of footballing reasons, and whom the board promised to be superior to our previous one in every way in footballing terms, is making the same mistakes as his predecessor?
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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1030 on: September 19, 2010, 05:46:51 pm »
Game was irrelevant - I refer you to the thread entitled:

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1031 on: September 19, 2010, 05:47:02 pm »
Can I have some of whatever Roy's been drinking?

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/roy-s-united-verdict

"Our goal at the start of the season was to compete for a Champions League place, but perhaps that means you are automatically going to compete for the league because quite often the difference between first and fourth place isn't a vast number of points.

"If we are good enough to get into the top four, who knows, maybe we can get closer to the number one position.

"I won't say we can't do it, nor will I say we can do it."

To be honest I prefer this sort of response to anything Roy has come out and said before. It shows he is hopefully starting to see us a liverpool side that can hopefully compete and not as a side that just expects a draw from a brummie game.

First signs he is coming to understand he is coaching liverpool, not fullham

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1032 on: September 19, 2010, 05:47:09 pm »
BBC Sport's Phil McNulty at Old Trafford: "Manchester United had time to recover from losing their lead this week and they fully deserved to win, with Dimitar Berbatov producing a masterclass. They were vastly superior to an ordinary Liverpool."

Vastly superior?
Really?  Looked pretty ordinary to me, a couple of poorly defended headers and a sublime (albeit lucky) overhead lobby goal aside.
We scored two and O Shea should have been sent off, fair analysis Phil?
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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1033 on: September 19, 2010, 05:48:16 pm »
shite defending for all 3 of their goals

frustrating, we could have got somethig easily there today
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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1034 on: September 19, 2010, 05:48:44 pm »
The reality of modern day football is unless you have some oil rich meglomaniac owning your club you don't stand a chance of competing at the top. Football has become a fucking joke, not worth getting upset about anymore.

Money helps, but that is to make it too easy on ourselves. Look at the subs today. I think we had a better bench than them. I don't think they had a better team out there (on paper), but their mentality is miles ahead of ours. We can still compete, but we're too busy finding an excuse or a way to surrender.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1035 on: September 19, 2010, 05:49:18 pm »
My thoughts now I've calmed down...

Thought Webb had a decent game with the one exception of showing the wrong coloured card to O'Shite - He was last man standing IMO and should have walked...I don't believe for a minute VDS was going to get there before El Nino!

Credit where it's due, but Berbatov's second goal was pure quality. Up until that point LFC were very, very poor. Whilst we passed the ball around quite well we never once hurt the home side...As soon as we got into the attacking third our players all got a nose bleed! We lacked pace, creativity, passion and looked very, very predictable. Torres was a very isolated figure up front and it's hardly surprising he looks so pissed off...I know I would be if I was in his position only getting balls pumped up to me in the air...What the hell is he meant to do...I know on his day he is a world class player, but he's not Superman!

The second half was much the same until Berba's wonder goal which seemed to sting the side into life and having somehow got ourselves back to 2-2 we then went back to our usual selves...Carra & Skittles kept dropping deeper & deeper and O'Shite was given all the time in the world to cross for the winner. Torres looked more of a threat once Ngog came on and he had someone to share the burden of United's back four.

I personally don't understand why Agger is being left out and really feel that it's time to try Agger & Skittles at the back, what harm can it do, we're leaking goals a lot faster then we're scoring them that's for sure! United are not as strong as they were, we played too deep and gave them far too much respect. I find it so difficult to accept just how far we've fallen in such a short space of time. We still have so many talented footballers, but I'm not so sure the tactics we play suits the players we have. Time will tell I guess, but so far nothing has changed under RH then what we witnessed under RB last season. Did we manage one shot on target from open play this afternoon? For the talented players we have on the pitch that is surely worrying? Yes early days into RH's reign a lot of you will shout and I'm not having a pop at him, but we should be creating at least one clear chance in open play. Everything is played in front of the opposition back four and whenever there is a long ball played it's a 'hoof' rather then a cracking ranking pass that we can all applaud.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1036 on: September 19, 2010, 05:49:30 pm »
No wonder they brought Roy in; he's to blame for the shite team and squad now.  I had it down to them cowboys who let quality leave to pay the bills

It's Hicks and Gilette who are to blame for this shit squad, inability to keep talent, inability to replace talent. Roy is just a bloke who had a chance at managing Liverpool and took it.  In an ideal world Rafa would of been given the money to take us to the next level - instead we lined the pockets ofthe owners

Let's not forget the real reason behind our decline

No one can disagree with that.

Just fuming that we had the chance to win this game, sat back and it blew up in our faces. You'd think we would have learned our lesson from previous seasons.
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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1037 on: September 19, 2010, 05:50:00 pm »
a sublime (albeit lucky) overhead lobby goal aside.
We scored two and O Shea should have been sent off, fair analysis Phil?

Why was Berbatovs overhead kick 'lucky'?

Why should O'Shea have been sent off?
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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1038 on: September 19, 2010, 05:50:13 pm »
The reality of modern day football is unless you have some oil rich meglomaniac owning your club you don't stand a chance of competing at the top. Football has become a fucking joke, not worth getting upset about anymore.
Conversion into the opposite - a fool who persists in his folly will become wise.

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Re: Man Utd vs Liverpool-In Game Commentary & Post game shite...
« Reply #1039 on: September 19, 2010, 05:50:25 pm »
shite defending for all 3 of their goals



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