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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28760 on: May 17, 2019, 05:16:58 pm »
City are trying to control the narrative by being offended that we would dare suggest it's abar Sean or Hillsborough. Reminds me of something a Tory would come out with after doing another snide thing.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28761 on: May 17, 2019, 05:18:46 pm »
Ban them from European Football and the league will be even easier for them

I’d rather a long transfer ban to be honest

Their players will want to play in the Champions League though, it's the competition all players want to play in. If they get a CL ban let's see how it affects them.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28762 on: May 17, 2019, 05:22:49 pm »
I don't have a problem with Manchester, love the place. Unfortunately some of the people there have got carried away with the idea that Manchester is some mega rich european capital. It is the home of the co-operative movement, the Pankhursts, Peterloo etc but a little new money have made some people forget their heritage.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28763 on: May 17, 2019, 05:24:16 pm »
I don't have a problem with Manchester, love the place. Unfortunately some of the people there have got carried away with the idea that Manchester is some mega rich european capital. It is the home of the co-operative movement, the Pankhursts, Peterloo etc but a little new money have made some people forget their heritage.

I do.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28764 on: May 17, 2019, 05:25:06 pm »
https://www.mcfcwatch.com/2018/09/13/man-citys-500m-revenues-explained-football-finance-expert-kieran-maguire-talks-to-city-watch/

Sooo...is this just a pile of horseshit then? Would welcome any analysis anyone cares to make !!
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28765 on: May 17, 2019, 05:25:53 pm »
Their players will want to play in the Champions League though, it's the competition all players want to play in. If they get a CL ban let's see how it affects them.

Pep will leave if they get a CL ban too. He says he's got 2 years left, so next season he'll be around whatever. If they're out of the champs league the season after, he'll leave.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28766 on: May 17, 2019, 05:27:34 pm »
You don't have to dig far..

http://www.josimar.no/artikler/the-men-behind-manchester-city-the-dark-side/5040/
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28767 on: May 17, 2019, 05:29:05 pm »
Ban them from European Football and the league will be even easier for them

I’d rather a long transfer ban to be honest

Nah, because a massive chunk of their income will be ignored for FFP purposes, so they'll no doubt have to sell, or at least unable to sign anyone, to comply or face being banned from entering for longer.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28768 on: May 17, 2019, 05:31:07 pm »
I don't have a problem with Manchester, love the place. Unfortunately some of the people there have got carried away with the idea that Manchester is some mega rich european capital. It is the home of the co-operative movement, the Pankhursts, Peterloo etc but a little new money have made some people forget their heritage.

With Media City and the development that is going on in the city, there is a lot more money coming in, Salford Quays really has sprung up and Ordsall is getting better too. Those in Hulme love it, they get to travel to the Quays to rob from the rich.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28769 on: May 17, 2019, 05:31:37 pm »
https://www.mcfcwatch.com/2018/09/13/man-citys-500m-revenues-explained-football-finance-expert-kieran-maguire-talks-to-city-watch/

Sooo...is this just a pile of horseshit then? Would welcome any analysis anyone cares to make !!

Not read it, but their entire accounts are a pile of shit, and it's been obvious for a while.

Not only have they shipped a load of the wages elsewhere away from the club accounts so they don't declare them for FFP purposes, but they are fudging bonus and other payments so these are hidden too.

Also, as everyone has said all along, their sponsor income is massively inflated and the majority is actually their owner funneling money into the club to bypass FFP.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28770 on: May 17, 2019, 05:32:53 pm »
https://www.mcfcwatch.com/2018/09/13/man-citys-500m-revenues-explained-football-finance-expert-kieran-maguire-talks-to-city-watch/

Sooo...is this just a pile of horseshit then? Would welcome any analysis anyone cares to make !!

Easy - over inflated sponsorship deals = record breaking commercial income. As if they make more than Utd, fucking cheats.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28771 on: May 17, 2019, 05:38:03 pm »
Easy - over inflated sponsorship deals = record breaking commercial income. As if they make more than Utd, fucking cheats.

As if they make £100m more commercially than us!!

The Chelsea figure is suspect enough being a few mil less than ours, but City's is just ridiculous.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28772 on: May 17, 2019, 05:39:42 pm »
yep

but not the way i wanted to win

would prefer to win it on a pitch not a court room

I don't understand that stance. If they end up losing the title due to their activities it would mean we had won it fair and square on the pitch. Just like if a silver medalist ends up with gold when the original winner was found to have been doping.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28773 on: May 17, 2019, 05:40:49 pm »
As if they make £100m more commercially than us!!

The Chelsea figure is suspect enough being a few mil less than ours, but City's is just ridiculous.

Well. They essentially sponsor themselves through various deals, so the figures can be pretty much anything they like.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28774 on: May 17, 2019, 05:42:45 pm »
Just been talking to another red about Pep's apology.

He say's 'Did you see the apology by Cardiola'?

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28775 on: May 17, 2019, 05:44:28 pm »
“If Liverpool win the Premier League it would have been an incredible achievement, when Man City win it it’s ‘ok’.”

Awwwwwww poor Pip isn't liking the lack of attention Abu Dhabi FC are getting  :'(

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28776 on: May 17, 2019, 06:05:53 pm »
“If Liverpool win the Premier League it would have been an incredible achievement, when Man City win it it’s ‘ok’.”

Awwwwwww poor Pip isn't liking the lack of attention Abu Dhabi FC are getting  :'(

Insofar as we're effectively competing with the sovereign wealth of a resource-rich nation, he's absolutely correct. The same would apply if Spurs won it. Poor Pip.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28777 on: May 17, 2019, 06:07:17 pm »
Straight off Bluemoon

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A good lawyer will tell the judge that city were not informed specifically about which documents to submit amidst thousands of paperwork . I don’t think our owners and directors are that stupid not to disclose the main documents . If it will come to that , it’s just a small change hit at city which uefa will eventually split evenly among the cocksuckers .

Afterward sheikh should just jack oil price in Europe for a day


Not even saying City are innocent, and then following it up with a suggestion Abu Dhabi should declare economic war on Europe. From the fan of a club that used to pride themselves on being good natured about being shit and bouncing around the leagues. Talk about cognitive dissonance.

What a clusterfuck of a club that has turned into. I really do feel for the older generation of City fans (the ones who aren't complete c*nts anyway) who must despair at what their club has turned into.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28778 on: May 17, 2019, 06:10:18 pm »
:lmao :lmao :lmao

Pep's "apology" what a fucking shit stain of club from top to bottom.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28779 on: May 17, 2019, 06:13:13 pm »
That’s the same for the Queen in the U.K., but she decides to act within the law. The U.K. could easily end up with a monarch that decides not to.

That worked well for Charles I.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28780 on: May 17, 2019, 06:14:43 pm »
“If Liverpool win the Premier League it would have been an incredible achievement, when Man City win it it’s ‘ok’.”

Awwwwwww poor Pip isn't liking the lack of attention Abu Dhabi FC are getting  :'(

They'll do a domestic treble and still be the second most successful club in England this season.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28781 on: May 17, 2019, 06:16:53 pm »
Pleased our club have not been dragged into the whole thing about the song because if they had, it could have hugely overshadowed our preparation for the final.
The fact we haven't bothered to comment is actually a bigger statement than if we had.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28783 on: May 17, 2019, 06:20:49 pm »
“If Liverpool win the Premier League it would have been an incredible achievement, when Man City win it it’s ‘ok’.”

Awwwwwww poor Pip isn't liking the lack of attention Abu Dhabi FC are getting  :'(

Awww....it must be kind of sad though really, you win a trophy and you're surrounded by sycophants in blue who want to kiss and hug you, and then you get outside the stadium and look to 'high five' the outside world and take some of their plaudits and everybody just shrugs nonchalantly and goes..."yeah...well done I guess" and gets on with their lives because they're not really buying into City as a 'story' or a 'journey' or a 'romance'...they're just seeing a club with limitless resources being managed by a 'cheque-book' manager whose consistently had a wealth of riches to chose from on team-selection day.

But still they ask...

But why? Why won't they admire us? Why won't they respect us? Look, we ave trophy...

They're no more admired than the artificial 'hare' which runs round a greyhound racing track. Yes, the 'hare' usually gets to the finish line first before any greyhound does. It's meant to, it's deliberately powered by a mechanism that those greyhounds don't possess, but it's the fastest dog that the punters are watching, not the hare. The punters know that the 'hare' is not a real animal, and City asking for respect is tantamount to the artificial hare asking for respect because it beat the chasing pack to the line.

Then imagine a dog...(in red)...which very nearly catches the hare on the line, leaving all of the other dogs standing, and tell me...what's the 'story' here ?

Is the story:

"Electronic hare seals another victory over greyhounds.."


Or is it:

"Greyhound a whisker away from catching electronic hare and tearing it a new arsehole.."
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28785 on: May 17, 2019, 06:22:48 pm »
^ I think you're reading too much into it.

The thing is,City just don't matter. They aren't the story

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28786 on: May 17, 2019, 06:25:38 pm »
As if they make £100m more commercially than us!!

The Chelsea figure is suspect enough being a few mil less than ours, but City's is just ridiculous.

Chelsea have been a big name for about 22/23 years now, from when they signed the likes of Zola, Di Matteo and Vialli on 1996, so they have had time to grow a fanbase, but yeah I doubt they are in reality anywhere near us. Them winning the PL coincided with us winning No 5 and that was far bigger news. At least Abramovich loaded £1.4bn debt onto them.

I've not looked into Citys sponsorship, but we all knew back in 2011 that Etihad deal was dodgy as fuck and I cannot see how the Puma deal, with the reported value of £650m over 10 years, makes financial sense for Puma.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28787 on: May 17, 2019, 06:30:43 pm »
Sounds like he’s fishing for an apology himself.  He’s essentially just said “We’re offended that people could think these horrible things about us”.

They just keep digging.

I heard earlier on that he had apologised, so when I got home I had a look at what he said. Er... that's not really an apology.

Also, this is not a song the players made up in order to celebrate. This is a supporters song and put together with clear malicious intent. How can ShitCardi sit there and tell us what was and wasn't meant when he has no idea himself? It's the same with United players singing ''without killing anyone'' on the pitch in Moscow. When Suarez was called out over his alleged comments to Evra, everyone said ignorance was no defence. So why, in this case, is ignorance seemingly a solid defence?

Abu dhabi, Guardiola, your lads sang a fans song with lyrics rooted in revelling in violence (be that against Sean Cox or anyone else) deliberately injuring a fellow professional, and Hillsborough. Even if it wasn't about Hillsborough, who are these people to get off on victim blaming? Anyway, your boys fucked up and made an embarrassment of themselves. Their actions have further tainted your league triumph. At least have to common decency to hold your hands up, admit the mistake, say sorry then move on.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28788 on: May 17, 2019, 06:31:50 pm »
If found guilty by UEFA


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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28789 on: May 17, 2019, 06:32:13 pm »
"I'm sorry if a song about supporters being battered in the streets and you being victims offends you"

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28790 on: May 17, 2019, 06:33:59 pm »
Chelsea have been a big name for about 22/23 years now, from when they signed the likes of Zola, Di Matteo and Vialli on 1996, so they have had time to grow a fanbase, but yeah I doubt they are in reality anywhere near us. Them winning the PL coincided with us winning No 5 and that was far bigger news. At least Abramovich loaded £1.4bn debt onto them.

I've not looked into Citys sponsorship, but we all knew back in 2011 that Etihad deal was dodgy as fuck and I cannot see how the Puma deal, with the reported value of £650m over 10 years, makes financial sense for Puma.
Obvious that Mansour subsidised that Puma deal.

It was last summer they were linked with Puma to the tune of £45-£50 million a year deal.

I bet Puma will be new kit supplier for Mansour's Abu Dhabi team, yes the same team that were paying half of Mancini's wages when he was City manager. ;D

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28791 on: May 17, 2019, 06:39:08 pm »
The fact we haven't bothered to comment is actually a bigger statement than if we had.

It is, I'm glad we haven't - it makes them look like the insignificant plastics that they are.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28792 on: May 17, 2019, 06:41:09 pm »
"I'm sorry if a song about supporters being battered in the streets and you being victims offends you"

Hahahaha

No no, not that guy who got battered, some other ones who may or may not have done. No harm done!

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28793 on: May 17, 2019, 06:51:09 pm »
“If Liverpool win the Premier League it would have been an incredible achievement, when Man City win it it’s ‘ok’.”

Awwwwwww poor Pip isn't liking the lack of attention Abu Dhabi FC are getting  :'(

They 'won' it last season too, and the only real memory I have of their whole season, apart from us smashing them, is them endlessly droning on about the bus.

My overriding impression of them this season is simply being horrendous cheats and utterly classless in 'victory'.

No one has really given a monkeys about them or their season apart from their own fans. There is no great story to tell with them. No epic journey. No blood, sweat and tears. It's all a bit, man with a billion quid buys a Ferrari. it's all very, so what? Nothing to tell. The story of the season has actually been Liverpool's points haul whilst doing it clean, and how the rest of the terrified country were willing us to fail because they fear our awakening so much.

Regardless of who wins the European Cup, the winners story will also overshadow the exploits of Abu Dhabi this season.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28794 on: May 17, 2019, 06:54:37 pm »
They 'won' it last season too, and the only real memory I have of their whole season, apart from us smashing them, is them endlessly droning on about the bus.

My overriding impression of them this season is simply being horrendous cheats and utterly classless in 'victory'.

No one has really give a monkeys about them or their season apart from their own fans. There is no great story to tell with them. No epic journey. No blood, sweat and tears. It's all a bit, man with a billion quid buys a Ferrari. it's all very, so what? Nothing to tell. The story of the season has actually been Liverpool's points haul whilst doing it clean, and how the rest of the terrified country were willing us to fail because they fear our awakening so much.

Regardless of who wins the European Cup, the winners story will also overshadow the exploits of Abu Dhabi this season.

Particularly as both finalists have knocked them out by dint of good management and financial prudence.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28795 on: May 17, 2019, 06:54:57 pm »
Just been talking to another red about Pep's apology.

He say's 'Did you see the apology by Cardiola'?

Cardiola;D

Sorry, but I have to steal that one.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28796 on: May 17, 2019, 06:55:48 pm »
Particularly as both finalists have knocked them out by dint of good management and financial prudence.

And not on the back of slaves.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28797 on: May 17, 2019, 07:00:43 pm »
Worth bearing in mind that there was no way that Guardiola wasn’t getting asked about that singing, he would have known it was coming.  So that prickly non-apology would have been a prepared response, not something he made up on the spot and got a bit wrong.

All this other stuff about how us winning would have been received versus the reaction to them winning is all a bit Mourinho, isn’t it? Graceless in victory.  He’ll be demanding respect and pointing out he’s won more titles than any of the other managers is the league next.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28798 on: May 17, 2019, 07:03:54 pm »
F**kin hell just seen that appalling so called apology from pep 'trump' Guardiola what a giant  :wanker
He f**kin made it up surely, he's off his tits if he believes any of that crap.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #28799 on: May 17, 2019, 07:14:58 pm »
Passive aggressive non-apology from a classless manager working for serial human rights abusers owned club,not surprising at all.