Topic: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition

[Fromola]

At least Neville has a reason to hate us, wtf have we done to Carragher and Murphy?

Murphy is bitter because Rafa fucked him off after he told him he wasn't first choice.

Carragher has to over compensate after spitting at a young United fan but he was always a bit of a prick. If Rafa had had the power base to move him on his last year he'd be as bitter as Murphy.

Lawrenson was the one I never got. He used to be terrible on BBC with our games (back when they had more games etc).

[eddiedingle]

Carraghers a bad dick.

[Kekule]

At least Neville has a reason to hate us, wtf have we done to Carragher and Murphy?

He won a cup treble with us, got told that as part of that side he would go down Anfield legend and folklore.

But a couple of decades later most of us forget he played for us, the younger generation probably don’t even realise, even his Old Trafford goals are back in the mists of time and don’t seem as important now as they did at the time, and he’s only getting pushed further down the roll call of honour by the current lot.

[Wabaloolah]

Murphy is bitter because Rafa fucked him off after he told him he wasn't first choice.

Carragher has to over compensate after spitting at a young United fan but he was always a bit of a prick. If Rafa had had the power base to move him on his last year he'd be as bitter as Murphy.

Lawrenson was the one I never got. He used to be terrible on BBC with our games (back when they had more games etc).

Well Lawro played in a very successful era for us so you could excuse him a bit having a go at a not so successful side, he's been OK the few times I've heard him recently on Five Live. Murphy and Carra though utter gobshites the pair of them

[redgriffin73]

Micah Richards with his raucous laughter is so fucking annoying. Nothing is that funny Micah, let alone Gary Lineker.

[clinical]

Micah Richards. Doesn't hide his bias and his laughing is horrible.

[JP!]

Carragher is happy sucking Sky's cock and pandering to their agenda so he can fuck off for me.  Legend my arse.  Average player who Rafa Benitez made a better player, and even then he repaid him by stabbing him in the back.

Tyler is still the worst though.

[So… Howard Philips]

Why isn't Martin Tyler miles ahead in the poll?

I know Danny Mills is a prick but he gets nothing like the airtime of Tyler.

[bird_lfc]

Micah Richards. Doesn't hide his bias and his laughing is horrible.

I’ve just witnessed this for the first time on the half time ‘analysis’ on bbc

Christ

[Kekule]

Why isn't Martin Tyler miles ahead in the poll?

I know Danny Mills is a prick but he gets nothing like the airtime of Tyler.

Mills has been very quiet these last couple of weeks, hasn’t he. 

[Tonyh8su]

Micah Richards. Doesn't hide his bias and his laughing is horrible.

On that subject, why does it seem to only be former Liverpool player pundits that feel the need to hide their bias so much? The rest seem to have no problem being actual cheer leaders.

Richards is the worst one to pop up in recent times though as a cheerleader and a pundit. He's dog shit.

[Fromola]

Well Lawro played in a very successful era for us so you could excuse him a bit having a go at a not so successful side, he's been OK the few times I've heard him recently on Five Live. Murphy and Carra though utter gobshites the pair of them

Lawro is a lot better now but he had a bee in his bonnet over something. The year we won the UEFA Cup under Ged all the games were on BBC and he never had one good word to say about us. It showed the camera in the studio when we scored the winner in the final and Hansen was jumping up and down (even Lineker IIRC was up) and Lawro was just sat there with a face like a slapped arse. As much as I don't like Carragher he at least celebrated when we won the league.

Murphy and Carragher used to do hit pieces on Rafa in the NOTW when Bascombe was there. They've always been snides.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Murphy and Carragher used to do hit pieces on Rafa in the NOTW when Bascombe was there. They've always been snides.

Didn't Carragher have an issue with foreign players cause the wives couldn't chat at dinner. Bet he was made up by the dinner parties with Hodgson, Cole, and Konchesky.

[Peabee]

On that subject, why does it seem to only be former Liverpool player pundits that feel the need to hide their bias so much? The rest seem to have no problem being actual cheer leaders.

Richards is the worst one to pop up in recent times though as a cheerleader and a pundit. He's dog shit.

The ones that show their bias don’t usually last long or get many gigs. Dwight Yorke used to refer to United as “we” on Sky before they binned him. Carra goes the other way and becomes hyper critical.

[Peabee]

From what I remember, Tyler said the line about Salah's "reputation". But I did hear Carragher saying City were a technically better team and would get along better with no crowds.

Technically better? For the coaches etc on this forum, is that even true? Could you win a league title with 7 games to go and be 23 points ahead of the second placed team if you’re technically inferior to the second places team? Is Carra playing up to the claims we rely on emotion and passion from the crowd? We’ve been beating teams on the road and we have a better away record than city; we’re 10 points ahead from 1 fewer game on the road.

[Skeeve]

The ones that show their bias don’t usually last long or get many gigs. Dwight Yorke used to refer to United as “we” on Sky before they binned him. Carra goes the other way and becomes hyper critical.

You clearly haven't been paying attention to all the ones who are regularly employed by Sky/BT/BBC and freely demonstrate their bias at every opportunity.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

Even by his own very low standards, Tyler was a disgrace yesterday.

He turned everything he possibly could into a negative, too many to list individually, but the Salah accusations were a disgrace.

This whole thing was invented and driven by the media, and he is clearly being judged way more harshly than other high profile attacking players. Worse than Tyler, was Carragher letting it go unchallenged.

After the City game, I said that I thought it was a pen, but Salah doesn't get given it and yesterday was a good example of that. Carragher had been taking some lessons off Mcmanaman with his "nothing in that" line.

[Ghost Town]

Why isn't Martin Tyler miles ahead in the poll?

I know Danny Mills is a prick but he gets nothing like the airtime of Tyler.

Tyler's prickishness is a constant background slow burn; whereas Mills has occasional hyper-intense, explosive bursts of prickishness that really catch the eye, and then goes quiet again for a while.

Don't be lulled into a false sense by it; two minutes of Mills opening his shittwat gob can be worse than months of Tyler's dour drip-drip twattery. They're both c*nts, mind.

[afc tukrish]

Tyler's prickishness is a constant background slow burn; whereas Mills has occasional hyper-intense, explosive bursts of prickishness that really catch the eye, and then goes quiet again for a while.

Don't be lulled into a false sense by it; two minutes of Mills opening his shittwat gob can be worse than months of Tyler's dour drip-drip twattery. They're both c*nts, mind.

So Tyler is sort of... herpetic, whereas Mills goes all soft?

[Nitramdorf]

Garth Crooks again, I know I shouldnt bite but sometimes cant help it.

"If United can keep Greenwood out of the clutches of Madrid and Barcelona, Liverpool and City may have a problem next season."
 
"Liverpool should consider themselves fortunate that they had the title pretty much wrapped up before the lockdown as they havent been the same with no fans"

An actual moron at work, and I have to contribute towards the pricks wages.

[slaphead]

Garth Crooks again, I know I shouldnt bite but sometimes cant help it.

"If United can keep Greenwood out of the clutches of Madrid and Barcelona, Liverpool and City may have a problem next season."
 
"Liverpool should consider themselves fortunate that they had the title pretty much wrapped up before the lockdown as they havent been the same with no fans"

An actual moron at work, and I have to contribute towards the pricks wages.

Ah bless him. He conveniently forgets we have won 2 out of 3 games since coming back and the first one was one of the best performances I have ever seen from us. But let the Man City game when our lads had been living on a high make his mind up eh. Maybe he doesn't realise there was no fans at he Palace game.
Even if Utd do fend off that persistent interest there will undoubtedly be in the best striker of his generation. or maybe ever, from Madrid, Barca and may aswell throw in PSG and Juve, they still have Fred, Luke Shaw and Lindelof in their team, never mind De Gea.
He is the very epitome of the knee jerk, everything that's hot right now is the best ever, ignore the facts and just concentrate on the hype pundit. He is exactly what I hate about people who are paid to give their opinion. First class idiot with exactly the kind of opinion you'd see on somewhere like Twitter of a Man Utd forum.
BBC would need to have a long hard look at themselves too and what they want to be, especially the editor who publishes this kind of nonsense, if they want to be a click bait fine, go ahead with this kind of "expert" view, but if they want some kind of respectability they're way off.   

[redgriffin73]

"Liverpool should consider themselves fortunate that they had the title pretty much wrapped up before the lockdown as they havent been the same with no fans"

Yeah, cos City have swept every team aside haven't they? We literally had enough points before lockdown to go on holiday and leave everyone else to it. That shows how good we have been, it's not something you can use AGAINST us you fucking idiot! (Garth, not you!)

[slaphead]

Yeah, cos City have swept every team aside haven't they? We literally had enough points before lockdown to go on holiday and leave everyone else to it. That's not something you can use AGAINST us you fucking idiot! (Garth, not you!)

haha it's mad how some people view that as a negative isn't it ?  Some people just have to find a negative in absolutely everything. Although I will give him credit in being able to find one (even though its not) in our season, that's not easy.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

Now we've finally won the league it's amazing how many things are being spun into a negative:

Winning it early - means new season starts now. Unless of course they want to go down the tainted route, in which case they forget it was won in March.

Winning lots of games by 1 goal - means we are unconvincing. When others do it, it's the sign of champions "know how to win", "find a way even if not at best"

Not playing well - sign of decline, team has peaked, Liverpool have been "worked out"

If it wasn't so pathetic, it would be funny. I think we should all know by now that we are held to different standards and we will never get the praise we are due from some quarters, they will just keep shifting the goalposts.

To be fair though, it's not the whole media, some are quite good and just give credit where it's due.

[Kekule]

Garth Crooks again, I know I shouldnt bite but sometimes cant help it.

"If United can keep Greenwood out of the clutches of Madrid and Barcelona, Liverpool and City may have a problem next season."
 
"Liverpool should consider themselves fortunate that they had the title pretty much wrapped up before the lockdown as they havent been the same with no fans"

An actual moron at work, and I have to contribute towards the pricks wages.

"They've been incredibly lucky to have won the league by virtue of being miles better than everyone else."

Well, it's an opinion I suppose.

[sinnermichael]

Charlie Nicholas on great form again in his midweek predictions. Says Salah looks "out of sorts". Apart from scoring one and assisting one against Palace, assisting against Villa and hitting the post against City.

[RedForeverTT]

Garth Crooks again, I know I shouldnt bite but sometimes cant help it.

"If United can keep Greenwood out of the clutches of Madrid and Barcelona, Liverpool and City may have a problem next season."
 
"Liverpool should consider themselves fortunate that they had the title pretty much wrapped up before the lockdown as they havent been the same with no fans"

An actual moron at work, and I have to contribute towards the pricks wages.

I wouldn't go as far as to say we hadn't been the same without fans. But we always played like we had the wind behind our sails when we had fans cheering.

[Skeeve]

Yeah, cos City have swept every team aside haven't they? We literally had enough points before lockdown to go on holiday and leave everyone else to it. That shows how good we have been, it's not something you can use AGAINST us you fucking idiot! (Garth, not you!)

Even with us supposedly being so terrible since the lockdown, we have a record of P4 W2 D1 L1 compared with City who have P5 W3 L2, so almost identical ppg and our points lead meant we could afford to start slower than others on the return anyway.

[Ghost Town]

Even with us supposedly being so terrible since the lockdown, we have a record of P4 W2 D1 L1 compared with City who have P5 W3 L2, so almost identical ppg and our points lead meant we could afford to start slower than others on the return anyway.

Plus. you know, the fact that our players had a massive week-long party between games

[TheShanklyGates]

It's Martin Tyler. It's always been Martin Tyler. It will always be Martin Tyler.

[El Lobo]

Enjoyed Carraghers five minute analysis of how Robbo ‘didn’t actually mean to hit Salah...he didn’t even look up’ off the corner, accompanied by replays of Robbo looking up and then taking the corner, and further accompanied by another corner from Robbo where he hit Mo in the same spot from the other side.

Prick.

[slaphead]

After our second goal, I think Tyler went about a full minute without even speaking a word. The age of him and huffing. Tube

[Crosby Nick]

After our second goal, I think Tyler went about a full minute without even speaking a word. The age of him and huffing. Tube

He then perked up when Brighton had a sniff of a chance a couple of minutes later. Still managed to get our goal drought away from home stay in about ten times, even after we’d scored two, then three. You have to commend his persistence.

[So… Howard Philips]

How many times did Tyler randomly mention United without any reference to the game he was watching?

Carragher is turning into one of those old blokes who rattle on about fuck all and then mutter into their pint of mild.

[Statto Red]

Tyler needs to retire or be binned off. & that "AND IT'S LIIIVE" is so annoying now too.

[Legs]

After our second goal, I think Tyler went about a full minute without even speaking a word. The age of him and huffing. Tube

He went on to them moan and pretty much say they should play like Burnley/Palace with everyone behind the ball.

Made himself sound stupid as Brighton played fairly well and with that style it gave them more chances against us.

Souness also said if they cut out the mistakes they go 1-0 up well that isn’t a given and if they play big boot than they may not get into the game like they did.

All I care  about is a few youngsters playing and we avoid injuries this season is done.

[Hazell]

Enjoyed Carraghers five minute analysis of how Robbo ‘didn’t actually mean to hit Salah...he didn’t even look up’ off the corner, accompanied by replays of Robbo looking up and then taking the corner, and further accompanied by another corner from Robbo where he hit Mo in the same spot from the other side.

Prick.

Liverpool's double goalscorer Mohamed Salah, speaking to Sky Sports, on his header from Andy Robertson's corner: "We trained on that yesterday and two days ago - finally Robbo gave me an assist and I'm happy with that [he chuckles]."

[redgriffin73]

Souness wound me up after the game, Salah apparently takes being selfish "to another level". This is the kind of shit that then gets trotted out by everyone on social media and the narrative is set again, he even said that Mo has fallen out with Sadio over it "a number of times" ffs. They never even mentioned his number of assists, although Mo managed to talk about them in his interview at least and pretty much said himself that they get overlooked.

[slaphead]

Souness wound me up after the game, Salah apparently takes being selfish "to another level". This is the kind of shit that then gets trotted out by everyone on social media and the narrative is set again, he even said that Mo has fallen out with Sadio over it "a number of times" ffs. They never even mentioned his number of assists, although Mo managed to talk about them in his interview at least and pretty much said himself that they get overlooked.

I like Souness but that kind of shit is bloody annoying, it seems like Mo is always having to defend himself and it doesn't sit well, either he's a diver or he's selfish, he cant win. There's 1 player in the league who goes down easier than anyone else around, and he is the greediest player on top of it - Harry Kane. Although I've not heard one single person label any of them 2 allegations against him. And he's only got 2 assists all season, I think.
Kane is just a goal scorer and is clever apparently.
What's he even on about he has fell out with Sadio a number of times ?  That one game, later in the day they were taking the piss out of each other. And Souness is always banging on about its healthy for players to have a go at each other.

[thejbs]

Tyler literally said that Liverpool - premier league, European and world club champions - should ‘take a leaf out of Manchester United’s book’ and wrap games up early. I mean... wow.