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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #160 on: November 24, 2020, 06:42:35 pm »
Sorry, I'll try and update this evening

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #161 on: November 24, 2020, 06:48:37 pm »
Yes, they've had two draws and a loss in five home games. I can't see them maintaining a title challenge if that home form continues.

I would say the dropped points were rather freakish, and actually Spuds are our biggest threat. The Newcastle game had the worst penalty decision of all time go against them (they were also really rusty at that point having had no proper pre-season), and the 3 they conceded against the Hammers was as bizarre as our implosion against Villa - I wouldn't expect to see either repeated too frequently. Spurs are right in the mix I'd say (depending on injuries).

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #162 on: November 24, 2020, 07:04:08 pm »
All said in jest Prof - you take you time with these things, they're art!  ;D
I know, don't worry.  I do like to try and update as soon to when the round has finished as I can.  It's also good to know that people are looking forward to seeing it.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #163 on: November 24, 2020, 07:14:07 pm »
I would say the dropped points were rather freakish, and actually Spuds are our biggest threat. The Newcastle game had the worst penalty decision of all time go against them (they were also really rusty at that point having had no proper pre-season), and the 3 they conceded against the Hammers was as bizarre as our implosion against Villa - I wouldn't expect to see either repeated too frequently. Spurs are right in the mix I'd say (depending on injuries).
I also think Spurs are the biggest threat this season.  Man City are looking like they are in a transition period so I'm not convinced they'll compete consistently.

I put a high amount of weight in the manager as it's a very complex job, especially in their role in creating a performance mindset and maintaining that level for a sustained period of time.

Mourinho clearly has the most experience in this regard (excluding Klopp and Guardiola).  He seems to have a cycle where he is in the right frame of mind to get teams playing, which seems to crack after about two years.  He's currently looking like he's in his happy place, and I can see Spurs doing very well with a well balanced squad with some very good players in key areas.

Lampard is very inexperienced and will find it difficult to maintain the levels of performance in his team over the season.

Time will tell.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #164 on: November 25, 2020, 10:50:25 am »
Can't help feeling Spurs are a Harry Kane hamstring tweak away from dropping a lot of points.  He's come on leaps and bounds but keep him quiet and I think Spurs struggle.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #165 on: November 25, 2020, 11:33:45 am »
Hasn't alderweirald just suffered a serious muscle injury? Will miss the Chelsea game and possibly more. He's important to them as it means keeping the dodgy Sanchez out of the first XI. I'm expecting some defensive and goalie whoopsies from them in the next few weeks. Then Jose will take over by throwing individuals under the bus again. A very small crack already appeared when Jose mentioned he'd be happy for Leicester to beat us and overtake them to the top. And we know what happens when Jose cracks: *motions with hands and makes slow, silent BOOM action with mouth*
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #166 on: November 25, 2020, 12:53:28 pm »
I know, don't worry.  I do like to try and update as soon to when the round has finished as I can.  It's also good to know that people are looking forward to seeing it.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #167 on: November 25, 2020, 02:09:06 pm »
I would say the dropped points were rather freakish, and actually Spuds are our biggest threat. The Newcastle game had the worst penalty decision of all time go against them (they were also really rusty at that point having had no proper pre-season), and the 3 they conceded against the Hammers was as bizarre as our implosion against Villa - I wouldn't expect to see either repeated too frequently. Spurs are right in the mix I'd say (depending on injuries).

At the same time though, they have beaten West Brom, Burnley and Brighton without really deserving to do so; they were pretty ordinary in all three games. I still see City as our biggest threat as they are the only club I could see going on a long winning run. The only way I can see Spurs/Chelsea/Leicester getting close is if we fall back into the 80 point range.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #168 on: November 25, 2020, 04:07:06 pm »
It just feels like Spurs are going to Spurs.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #169 on: November 25, 2020, 09:41:07 pm »
All said in jest Prof - you take you time with these things, they're art!  ;D
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #170 on: November 25, 2020, 09:43:25 pm »
I also think Spurs are the biggest threat this season.  Man City are looking like they are in a transition period so I'm not convinced they'll compete consistently.

I put a high amount of weight in the manager as it's a very complex job, especially in their role in creating a performance mindset and maintaining that level for a sustained period of time.

Mourinho clearly has the most experience in this regard (excluding Klopp and Guardiola).  He seems to have a cycle where he is in the right frame of mind to get teams playing, which seems to crack after about two years.  He's currently looking like he's in his happy place, and I can see Spurs doing very well with a well balanced squad with some very good players in key areas.

Lampard is very inexperienced and will find it difficult to maintain the levels of performance in his team over the season.

Time will tell.

Not being arrogant but those stats are giving total outlier results, no fucker keeps that type of consistency up away from home whilst having dire results at home, too small a sample but it will normalise and by that stage my friends they’re looking at our arses in the table by the new year *

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #171 on: November 29, 2020, 09:19:05 pm »
Do we drop 2 here?

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #172 on: November 29, 2020, 09:22:13 pm »
Do we drop 2 here?

We did.  As did Chelsea

Spurs stayed as they were.

Utd may have gained two as well.

Arsenal lost 3

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #173 on: November 29, 2020, 11:47:29 pm »
We did.  As did Chelsea

Spurs stayed as they were.

Utd may have gained two as well.

Arsenal lost 3
United did gain two.

As I checked at 2-0 down to see if they'd lose 3 or 1 ;D

I won an 11/1 shot on them coming back which made it more palatable.

They're all big every week, but maintaining par against Wolves is massive now.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #175 on: November 30, 2020, 07:42:37 pm »
Arsenal in free fall.

Wolves feels pretty gigantic now with Spurs around the corner. A few par 3's in a row, so I'd give my left bollock to be able to take a win against Wolves into Fulham away.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #176 on: November 30, 2020, 07:59:17 pm »
Thanks Prof.

I think we're doing incredibly well considering the injuries we've had.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #177 on: November 30, 2020, 08:16:22 pm »
Thanks, Prof. Can we plead with you not the extend the vertical axis for the sake of Arsenal? Though I'd rather plead with Arsenal not to cross the current vertical axis limit in the next round...

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« Reply #178 on: November 30, 2020, 08:26:30 pm »


They could use this to advertise viagra.

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« Reply #179 on: November 30, 2020, 08:32:04 pm »
They could use this to advertise viagra.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #182 on: December 6, 2020, 10:52:13 pm »
Arsenal in freefall.

So important for us to get par, especially after the other results.

Thanks for the speedy update Prof.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
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« Reply #184 on: December 7, 2020, 12:23:45 pm »


I like this but I have no idea what it's actually telling me! 🤔
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #185 on: December 7, 2020, 12:58:20 pm »
It's points per last 38 games, split into 5 game blocks (or 3 games at the top)

With the most recent 5 games played being at the bottom of the graph I think

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #186 on: December 8, 2020, 10:50:39 am »
I like this but I have no idea what it's actually telling me! 🤔

Yes, pretty much exactly as redforlife said.  It's the 38 game current form for each team broken down into 5 game segments (with one 3 game segment at the top).  The closer to the bottom and the darker the colour the more recent (and so more relevant) the games are.

So we have 11 points from our last 5 games, 10 points from the 5 games before that, etc, etc.


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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #187 on: December 8, 2020, 10:59:17 am »
Oh, and just for a bit of fun and as I didn't get the chance to post it at the time, here is how that chart would have looked if I would have posted it just after the West Ham game in February.


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« Reply #188 on: December 8, 2020, 12:46:45 pm »
Ah interesting, so United have actually crept over 70 in their rolling 38
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #189 on: December 11, 2020, 05:45:50 pm »
Thought I'd show this season's PPG compared to last year after 11 matches.

Both the top and bottom of the league are down a bit, but the middle is up. If this stays this way someone will win the league with 83 points and someone will stay up with 24 points.

The record lowest points total while staying up is West Brom with 34 in 2004/5, so maybe there'll be a new record this year?

Incidentally, Sheffield Utd are on target for finishing the season with 3.45 points, which will be a new record. The previous being Derby County with 11 in 2007-8.



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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #190 on: December 11, 2020, 10:41:04 pm »
Thought I'd show this season's PPG compared to last year after 11 matches.

Both the top and bottom of the league are down a bit, but the middle is up. If this stays this way someone will win the league with 83 points and someone will stay up with 24 points.

The record lowest points total while staying up is West Brom with 34 in 2004/5, so maybe there'll be a new record this year?

Incidentally, Sheffield Utd are on target for finishing the season with 3.45 points, which will be a new record. The previous being Derby County with 11 in 2007-8.




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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #191 on: December 13, 2020, 06:48:18 pm »
And it could have been so positive :(
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #192 on: December 13, 2020, 06:55:28 pm »
-15 might win this league. Strange old season


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« Reply #194 on: December 13, 2020, 10:00:24 pm »
Have we ever been -5 before?!
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« Reply #195 on: December 14, 2020, 09:37:32 am »
Statistically, does it work if we just remove all lines above the red line?

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« Reply #196 on: December 14, 2020, 11:15:32 am »
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« Reply #197 on: December 16, 2020, 09:52:52 pm »
Poor showing... Just a par.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #198 on: December 16, 2020, 11:21:55 pm »
Need to wait for tomorrow, but should make better viewing tomorrow! ;D
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #199 on: December 16, 2020, 11:28:25 pm »
Much like what we’re just coming to an end of now, looks like Spurs have a crap run of APLT fixtures coming up. Only par 1 in the next 5 games is wolves away.