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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #80 on: November 8, 2006, 08:43:06 pm »
I was always told in the old days everton were "more" catholic and liverpool "more" prod
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #81 on: November 8, 2006, 09:07:47 pm »
Anyway who cares? We're Liverpool Football Club and we're Red.
If fans of celtic or rangers want to support us then good luck to them.


That's pretty much my thoughts on it
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #82 on: November 8, 2006, 10:20:21 pm »
Sunnis 'n' Shias is the way forward

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #83 on: November 8, 2006, 10:34:06 pm »
deffo, then we can all sing 'I've got you babe' :)

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #84 on: November 8, 2006, 10:43:38 pm »
Everton were formed as part of St Domingo's, which sounds pretty catholic to me. Also Liverpool is quite close to Netherfield Road which until recently was a really staunch loyalist/orange area.
St Domingo's was/is Methodist church.  Part of the reason for the split which ended in everton moving to goodison was the John Holding wanted to sell alcohal from his brewers at Anfield on match days.  Being strict methodist church members this led to a dispute which had Holding up the rent instead.  everton refused to pay up and moved to goodison leaving Holding with a footie ground and no team, hence the formation of LFC.  So there was a slightly religious reason for the split but it wasnt a Catholic/Prodestant one.
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #85 on: November 8, 2006, 10:47:10 pm »
fuck off reading the rangers and celtic results at anfield

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« Reply #86 on: November 8, 2006, 10:50:51 pm »
fuck off reading the rangers and celtic results at anfield
I agree.  What's the scottish league got to do with the redmen??
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #87 on: November 8, 2006, 11:23:17 pm »
the Reverend goodison was a loyalist/orange priest in the everton area the street and stadium are named after him .

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #88 on: November 8, 2006, 11:32:07 pm »
When Celtic RangerS games called off they used to come down to anfield even had fights on standing kop between rangers and Celtic lads as we watched was always Rangers as an orangeman lot of lads used to go up watch rangers when we were away at somwhereshite or games were called off.
Saying that my best mates were catholic used to meet up in southport after marching on twelfth  some good lads on both sides

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #89 on: November 8, 2006, 11:35:32 pm »
Both teams are horrible c*nts and shouldn't be given the time of day by us. I wouldn't even give either the steam off my piss.
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #90 on: November 9, 2006, 07:39:39 am »
Quote from: BIGdavalad on Yesterday at 04:24:02 PM
Old John Houlding was an Orangeman, I believe.


So are most people in Liverpool these days.

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #91 on: November 9, 2006, 11:00:04 pm »
Scouser Tommy had the tune of the Sash in it.
"Had?" It still does as far as I'm aware.  ;)

But while the chorus is to the tune of "The Sash My Father Wore" - as proddy a song as you could imagine - the verses are to the tune of "Jarama Valley," a heroic song of the anti-Franco Republican forces in the Spanish civil war. Not too many Orangemen there, methinks.  ;D

So, in "Poor Scouser Tommy" we have an ironic synthesis of differing religions, a dialectic for our time if you will.  :wave
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #92 on: November 9, 2006, 11:03:33 pm »
Libpool are Orange - FACT.





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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #93 on: November 9, 2006, 11:08:27 pm »
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #94 on: November 9, 2006, 11:09:53 pm »
Proddy twats. ;)
Just GO you Yank twats.

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #95 on: November 9, 2006, 11:23:52 pm »
"Had?" It still does as far as I'm aware.  ;)

But while the chorus is to the tune of "The Sash My Father Wore" - as proddy a song as you could imagine - the verses are to the tune of "Jarama Valley," a heroic song of the anti-Franco Republican forces in the Spanish civil war. Not too many Orangemen there, methinks.  ;D

So, in "Poor Scouser Tommy" we have an ironic synthesis of differing religions, a dialectic for our time if you will.  :wave

But isn't ''Jarama Valley'' a copy of 'Red River Valley', which is an American Civil War tune, therefore mid 19th century?

And the 'tunes' debate could go on for ever.  The Bitters ''Grand Old Team'' for example, is actually Celtic FC's oldest remaining tune (after they nicked YNWA that is!);  We as a club have songs which swing either way....       PST;  'Bill Shankly of Glenbuck';  ''Soldiers are we'' etc.

Don't think the tunes we sing today reflect in any way the original religious affiliations of the 2 Merseyside clubs (if any ever existed in the same way as in Glasgow or Edinburgh for example).

But there was, in the early days, a tendency to associate Liverpool FC with the Orange tradition, as I'm certain Robbie will/can confirm.

No matter nowadays.   If any of them is disaffected, and wishes to move upward to the Higher Level of worship... we'll adopt them all.    As long as they leave the baggage of their miserable past behind, honour the traditions of Liverpool and the KFS,  condemn green or blue colours to the dustbin....      and learn the various songs without fear or favour.

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #96 on: November 9, 2006, 11:52:02 pm »
Libpool are Orange - FACT.








Only in your tiny little mind they are.
Can remember nicking those Rangers bobble hats from the whoppers who used to wear them on the Kop - Oh happy days.
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #97 on: November 9, 2006, 11:57:24 pm »
But isn't ''Jarama Valley'' a copy of 'Red River Valley', which is an American Civil War tune, therefore mid 19th century?
Indeed. Ah, the rich tapestry that is woven through music.  :wave

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/lyrics/redriver.htm
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #98 on: November 9, 2006, 11:59:04 pm »
Indeed. Ah, the rich tapestry that is woven through music.  :wave

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/lyrics/redriver.htm

How do you find these links??    ;D

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #99 on: November 10, 2006, 12:01:05 am »
How do you find these links??    ;D
A mixture of skill, experience and boredom. Mostly boredom.  ;)
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #100 on: November 10, 2006, 12:21:15 am »
Here's another one for you, all perfectly legit.

http://www.ireland-information.com/downloads/midi/thefieldsofathenry.mid
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #101 on: November 10, 2006, 12:25:33 am »
One more, and I'm off to bed, with a Liverbird Upon My chest... :wave

http://victoryatseaonline.com/war/midi/green-berets.mid
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #102 on: November 10, 2006, 12:34:54 am »
One more, and I'm off to bed, with a Liverbird Upon My chest... :wave

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #103 on: November 10, 2006, 01:12:42 am »
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I agree mate, anyway Dava - can't believe you still yearn to be a crab.....I jibbed it a year ago and don't miss it one bit.
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« Reply #104 on: November 10, 2006, 01:39:30 am »
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #105 on: November 10, 2006, 02:45:17 am »
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #106 on: November 10, 2006, 08:38:32 am »
I remember when I first started going the game, I thought the 'Rangers Celtic' shout was one of ours songs. I used to sing both 'Rangers' and 'Celtic'...


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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #107 on: November 10, 2006, 09:03:59 am »
So are most people in Liverpool these days.
thats tan-tamount to slander.
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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #108 on: November 10, 2006, 11:02:15 am »
I thought liverpool was the catholic team?

Nope - We are traditionally the protestant team (although I and all my mates as kids in Liverpool -catholics to a man - were Liverpool supporters) and Everton are traditionally the catholic team.  It's just a traditional linking - doesn't mean anything in reality I'm glad to say

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #109 on: November 10, 2006, 11:15:45 am »

Only in your tiny little mind they are.
Can remember nicking those Rangers bobble hats from the whoppers who used to wear them on the Kop - Oh happy days.

I speak as a catholic who has been going to games for nearly half a century and I can assure you that the previous correspondent is absolutely right.  Liverpool are indisputably traditionally the protestant club.  It doesn;lt mean anything; it is just simply the fact of the matter.  S

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« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2006, 03:11:20 pm »
I dont associate Celtic and Rangers with football, i associate it with flag waving bigotry. Living here in Ireland there affiliation with one side or another sickens me. what person with a so called brain gets pleasure out of abusing someone because of their religion. Looking at an old firm match all you here is abuse, i think the match itself gets in the way, it distracts them.
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« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2006, 03:16:18 pm »
CELTIC, RANGERS. CELTIC, RANGERS. CELTIC, RANGERS. CELTIC, RANGERS. CELTIC, RANGERS. CELTIC, RANGERS. CELTIC, RANGERS. LIVERPOOL, LIVERPOOL, LIVERPOOL, LIVERPOOL..................................

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #113 on: November 10, 2006, 03:21:54 pm »
I dont associate Celtic and Rangers with football, i associate it with flag waving bigotry. Living here in Ireland there affiliation with one side or another sickens me. what person with a so called brain gets pleasure out of abusing someone because of their religion. Looking at an old firm match all you here is abuse, i think the match itself gets in the way, it distracts them.

So true.

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« Reply #114 on: November 10, 2006, 03:23:09 pm »
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« Reply #115 on: November 10, 2006, 03:49:57 pm »
j ward ? how the fuk can you be rangers?  with your views on most id have thought you were celtic.  oh well....

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Re: Celtic/Rangers, bobble hats etc
« Reply #116 on: November 10, 2006, 04:09:57 pm »
Where's Mushy the Pope when you need him ?


Thought Liverpool was originally more associated with Rangers, and there are still a fair few Rangers scarves at the ground, but since certainly the 70's we've been just as heavily linked, if not more, with Celtic.
So I think the club was linked with Rangers because of religion but Celtic cos of football.
Fowler has always wanted to play with Rangers, or at least is a massive Rangers fan.
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« Reply #117 on: November 10, 2006, 04:10:18 pm »
j ward ? how the fuk can you be rangers?  with your views on most id have thought you were celtic.  oh well....

Haha, only tongue in cheek like, I am in fact Protestant though, what made you think I'd be Celtic??
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« Reply #118 on: November 10, 2006, 04:13:41 pm »
wardy yer anti england stuff an the like, yer come across as lefty an a bit of a scall, which made me assume you were celtic if anything.


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« Reply #119 on: November 10, 2006, 04:15:22 pm »
hinesy fowler bizzarely is a practising roman catholic to lol.

well just look around anfield these days celtic scarves etc easily outnumber rangers ones.

back in the 80s it was more evenly split.