Topic: Watford vs LIVERPOOL FC - Vicarage Rd Sat 16 Oct - BT Sport 12:30pm

[Fromola]

In fairness we didnt know about South America fixtures they just shoe horned them in.

We did. Many here were saying this in the summer when it was clear what the South America situation was going to be (on top of AFCON).

Klopp is right in what he's saying but it doesn't serve any purpose to rant in a press conference when the media will just twist his words and make headlines. Same for tomorrow when he'll be ready for aggro after the game. Just give them nothing.

There's nothing we can do about it now.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

still pigheadly refused to strengthen the squad, despite losing Gini.

You should really try and get this point across a bit more.

[newterp]

We did. Many here were saying this in the summer when it was clear what the South America situation was going to be (on top of AFCON).

Klopp is right in what he's saying but it doesn't serve any purpose to rant in a press conference when the media will just twist his words and make headlines. Same for tomorrow when he'll be ready for aggro after the game. Just give them nothing.

There's nothing we can do about it now.

Listen - just because you live you life on these boards with sheer negativity and the sky is falling all the time - doesn't mean that Klopp shouldn't speak out on important issues. He's a man of principle and isn't afraind to take on the tough issues. He's 100% in his comments and the scary BT announcers twisting his words isn't going to bother him at all. Nor is it going to affect the way we play.

[newterp]

You should really try and get this point across a bit more.

Cut him a break. It's the first time he's mentioned it in the last hour.

[Agent99]

We did. Many here were saying this in the summer when it was clear what the South America situation was going to be (on top of AFCON).

Klopp is right in what he's saying but it doesn't serve any purpose to rant in a press conference when the media will just twist his words and make headlines. Same for tomorrow when he'll be ready for aggro after the game. Just give them nothing.

There's nothing we can do about it now.

Why are you the way that you are?

[Hazell]

Nice one duvva

[RyanBabel19]

Isn’t his point with Jones though that they didn’t need to play him. He was injured 2 days before and couldn’t play, so likely not 100% in this Andorra game either. His issue is that a national team has shown little regard to a player, because they don’t have to deal with the consequences.

I agree with you about Gomez - but that’s cos I am a selfish fan who doens’t care about Liverpool players' international careers  I’d love nothing more than if Trent, Hendo and Gomez never played a single second for England again.

Oh i see, if that's is indeed the case then he's spot on as he often is. Don't unnecessarily risk aggravating injuries for the sake of playing someone when you dont need to.

Haha I get that way of thinking, I like seeing our players get to play international football as I know it's important for them. I was so gutted for Trent when his injury ruled him out of the Euros

[wige]

We did. Many here were saying this in the summer when it was clear what the South America situation was going to be (on top of AFCON).

Klopp is right in what he's saying but it doesn't serve any purpose to rant in a press conference when the media will just twist his words and make headlines. Same for tomorrow when he'll be ready for aggro after the game. Just give them nothing.

There's nothing we can do about it now.

"Rant"

laughable.

[Hazell]

"Rant"

laughable.

He's cracking up, he's cracking up, Jurgen's cracking up...

[classycarra]

We did. Many here were saying this in the summer when it was clear what the South America situation was going to be (on top of AFCON).

Klopp is right in what he's saying but it doesn't serve any purpose to rant in a press conference when the media will just twist his words and make headlines. Same for tomorrow when he'll be ready for aggro after the game. Just give them nothing.

There's nothing we can do about it now.

Who needs the media to twist his words, there's always Fromola

[Ma Vie en Rouge]

Why complain about England not picking Gomez, while complaining they did pick Jones? It doesn't serve Klopp to rant away in these press conferences. Like Brighton last year BT will sense blood if we drop points with a weak side out and Klopp takes the bait.

He's a right to be pissed off about internationals but we knew about South America and AFCOn and still pigheadly refused to strengthen the squad, despite losing Gini.

Really? That's what you took from our manager's press conference? That? He's pissed off with clubs being sold to evil nation-states, pissed off with UEFA and FIFA milking players for more cash to the detriment of all, and so he should be - and he damn well should speak out too.

[JerseyKloppite]

We did. Many here were saying this in the summer when it was clear what the South America situation was going to be (on top of AFCON).

Klopp is right in what he's saying but it doesn't serve any purpose to rant in a press conference when the media will just twist his words and make headlines. Same for tomorrow when he'll be ready for aggro after the game. Just give them nothing.

There's nothing we can do about it now.

The negativity is endless .

I imagine you walking around with a cloud above your head and a steady drizzle.

[Ma Vie en Rouge]

The logical conclusion to Fromola's line of argument is that no one should ever speak out about important things because the media will twist their words.

Anyway, 0-3 Salah, Mane, Salah. Lovely, ta.

[bornandbRED]

Gomez is probably their best CB - gets seriously injured on England duty and then isn’t given another sniff when fit again, whilst shite like Coady, Mings and Tomori are called up. It does smell. David Brent behaviour.

[John C]

Belter of an OP Duvva mate, thank you buddy.
Some cracking, classic pieces of pass and move in that video, great stuff.

Despite the KO time, the loss of players and the official, the Reds will be fine. 0-2.
Enjoy the game folks.

[Dave McCoy]

There really shouldn't be any excuse for not taking all 3 points.  They're just not a very good team and aside from Sarr I don't think they have a PL level player.  I guess Dennis seems somewhat useful but it's early.  Cleverly, Sissoko, Cathcart, King, on and on, they are old and bad.

So yeah we're missing some important players, shouldn't matter.  Just get the 3 points by hook or by crook and onto Atletico.

[Golyo]

They beat Aston Villa in the 1st round, Norwich in the 5th and drew with Newcastle in the 6th. Obviously, we should beat them most of the time but they are not at Norwich's level, who were certain to go down even before the 1st round of the season.

[So… Howard Philips]

The negativity is endless .

I imagine you walking around with a cloud above your head and a steady drizzle.

Fromola, like Everest has his own weather system.

[Jookie]

I reckon bigging Joe Gomez up in the press conference today means he starts tomorrow. Give him very public support to show his faith in him.

Keep Virgil back for Madrid and United. Probably don’t want him playing 3 intense games in a week after an international break.

Milner, Henderson and AOC seem certs for midfield if we stick with 4-3-3. Could go 4-2-3-1 though

[Fromola]

Really? That's what you took from our manager's press conference? That? He's pissed off with clubs being sold to evil nation-states, pissed off with UEFA and FIFA milking players for more cash to the detriment of all, and so he should be - and he damn well should speak out too.

He's right in what he says, of course.

[Nick110581]

He's right in what he says, of course.

Doesn't stop you having a moan about it though!

[Fromola]

Doesn't stop you having a moan about it though!

There's no benefit to him saying it. The media will misquote him and frame it badly (Brighton last year/Rafa's rant etc), the powers that be will take absolutely no notice and other fans/pundits will just brand him a moaner.

Just give them nothing.

[Dim Glas]

There's no benefit to him saying it. The media will misquote him and frame it badly (Brighton last year/Rafa's rant etc), the powers that be will take absolutely no notice and other fans/pundits will just brand him a moaner.

Just give them nothing.

Then the club may as well just release a statement with injury info before every game and he might as well not bother doing interviews.

It’s sad Fromola, that you can’t just appreciate how he is, rather than wish he didn’t say these things.

I LOVE that he speaks out, he does it because he’s a genuinely good man who cares about football and his team (and about people!).   Thank god he does too, the world needs more of this, not less.

And oppo fans having a dig cos they can label him a whinger? Guess what - most would love it if he was at their club  doing this.

[Knight]

I'm behind on injuries, do we have 3 available senior CMs? Henderson, Keita, Milner?

[Dim Glas]

I'm behind on injuries, do we have 3 available senior CMs? Henderson, Keita, Milner?

Ox.

Reckon it will be Hendo, Ox and Milner to start this one.

[Crosby Nick]

I'm behind on injuries, do we have 3 available senior CMs? Henderson, Keita, Milner?

And Chamberlain.

Although Keita has played three times in a week for Guinea I think!

[slaphead]

Awful lack of team predictions in this thread, and more worringly, a severe lack of the good old lets twat these twats. Sort it out

Kelleher

Alexander Arnold
Van Dijk
Matip
Robertson

Henderson
Keith
Milner

Salah
Mane
Jota

Lets twat these twats

[Hazell]

Awful lack of team predictions in this thread, and more worringly, a severe lack of the good old lets twat these twats. Sort it out
...
Lets twat these twats

Like duvva said, recent trips have held some not so great memories, despite I imagine our record being decent there. Always a bit wary of a new manager coming in as well and with some players missing so all in all, it looks a bit trickier than one would hope.

I agree with you whole heartedly about the above however.

[Knight]

And Chamberlain.

Although Keita has played three times in a week for Guinea I think!

In that case he should be nowhere near the starting 11. Henderson, Milner, Ox it is. Doesn't exactly inspire. Fortunately Trents back and the front 3 are brilliant.

[Crosby Nick]

In that case he should be nowhere near the starting 11. Henderson, Milner, Ox it is. Doesn't exactly inspire. Fortunately Trents back and the front 3 are brilliant.

Was it Milner, Keita, Ox for the opening day game at Norwich? Watford will be more of a battle but they should be able to match them on that front.

[bornandbRED]

Milner Hendo Ox should be enough to dog this game out. Main thing is we have the back four and front 3 fit.

[disgraced cake]

Lots of worries about the midfield, but with all due respect if they can't do a job against the likes of Tom Cleverley and Moussa Sissoko then we might as well just stop worrying about games for the rest of the season as we'll be going nowhere important. We've already gifted promoted/relegated sides a fair few points over the past 18 months or so, and this would be a terrible time to do so again. Lots of talk about Salah's great run of form at the minute but fancy Mane for another one tomorrow to continue his personal return to form after struggling last season.

Big game for Kelleher too, only played the two league games for us and performed well in both even though one was a loss to Brighton. Wouldn't have had the usual back four in front of him for either of them games, too. Here's hoping for a clean sheet tomorrow.

[JackWard33]

What’s the evidence that Keita gets injured from playing regularly?
He’s clearly better than Milner or Chamberlain so can’t see why he wouldn’t start

[88_RED]

And Chamberlain.

Although Keita has played three times in a week for Guinea I think!

Am I reading this correctly?? 3 games in a week..  And he hasn't picked up a niggly injury or come back ill or something..

Wow.. So what's Kloppo on about with injuries.. 

[scouting for goals]

Not to bothered who starts tomorrow, I have complete trust in our manager. He will pick a team he believes will get the 3pts and then move on to Atletico. Let’s twats these hornets. Up the reds

[Big Dirk]

We must have the most injury prone midfield in the league…maybe they have to realise you aren’t always gonna be 100% fit…not all players have the Suarez mentality.

[Knight]

What’s the evidence that Keita gets injured from playing regularly?
He’s clearly better than Milner or Chamberlain so can’t see why he wouldn’t start

Mostly him getting injured regularly!

[JerseyKloppite]

So realistic squad tomorrow is:
Kelleher
TAA
VVD
Matip
Robbo
Henderson
Ox
Milner
Salah
Jota
Mane

Subs:
Adrian
Gomez
Konate
Tsimikas
Keita
Taki
Origi

[Eeyore]

What’s the evidence that Keita gets injured from playing regularly?
He’s clearly better than Milner or Chamberlain so can’t see why he wouldn’t start

There is no evidence because Keita never plays regularly.

[Big Dirk]

So realistic squad tomorrow is:
Kelleher
TAA
VVD
Matip
Robbo
Henderson
Ox
Milner
Salah
Jota
Mane

Subs:
Adrian
Gomez
Konate
Tsimikas
Keita
Taki
Origi

Bobby