Author Topic: Tony Pulis has left Stoke (and Palace now) (Read 60493 times)

MagicHat · « **Reply #121 on:** May 21, 2013, 07:16:14 pm »

Did a very good job, as sickening as watching him defend players who injured people while ball was off the pitch, for a time. Even then, there were some comments about how the likes of Whelan were not properly used due to the style, that he seemed to distrust flair but it was effective. When the point came where he needed to change the style, to push on and so on... he spent a lot of money but kept to the system. He couldn't get the best out of players like Crouch, Woodgate, Palacios that he spent money and big wages on. When Pennant and Etherington were gone/no longer effective, pretty much all Stoke's attacking threat was gone. None of his other wingers have clicked and with teams having worked out how to defend a Stoke setplay, goals were never going to come.

He had to go for the club to stop the slide. With the money they have, would think it would be an appetising job for the right manager.

markedasred · « **Reply #122 on:** May 21, 2013, 07:27:23 pm »

At least we can expect more attractive football next season from Stoke, whoever they get, as nobody could coach a team as ugly as Pulis did. Pretty confident Rafa will go to europe for a while. Not stoke or everton Rafa. Just don't do it.

Mashy-rawr!nooo · « **Reply #123 on:** May 21, 2013, 07:27:26 pm »

Martinez would be fantastic choice.

If he doesn't end up at old finchy.

macca888 · « **Reply #124 on:** May 21, 2013, 07:28:54 pm »

Just hope they get someone else in who doesn't play shite alehouse footy with the fucking cast of The Expendables as their first 11.

If they just carry on as before with some other fucking clogger merchant , I hope the c*nts get relegated.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #125 on:** May 21, 2013, 07:30:20 pm »

Pulis has left the building.

Doesn't really have the same ring to it, does it.

Aido LFC · « **Reply #126 on:** May 21, 2013, 07:39:21 pm »

Quote from: StokieSteve on May 21, 2013, 05:48:47 pm

Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, he got us into the prem and kept us there, on the other, I think a relegation scrap could be on the cards next season. Excited and anxious at the same time. Thanks for everything Tone, but I think the time is right. Would love Rafa, but I think that is wishful thinking.

Any particular manager that you would realistically like to see at Stoke.

macca888 · « **Reply #127 on:** May 21, 2013, 07:47:32 pm »

Quote from: StokieSteve on May 21, 2013, 05:48:47 pm

Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, he got us into the prem and kept us there, on the other, I think a relegation scrap could be on the cards next season. Excited and anxious at the same time. Thanks for everything Tone, but I think the time is right. Would love Rafa, but I think that is wishful thinking.

You're obviously a good lad Steve, even though you'd not notice the difference if you supported the Blue Union

but I just seriously cannot fucking stand that baseball hatted, shellsuit wearing, "well good innit" c*nt.

Sir Psycho Sexy · « **Reply #128 on:** May 21, 2013, 07:50:54 pm »

Quote from: CHOPPER on May 21, 2013, 07:07:59 pm

Wtf? Did Fergie lose a bet or something?

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #129 on:** May 21, 2013, 07:56:08 pm »

The game at the brittania was the only game this season that we were dominated from pretty much start to finish imo. They were like adebisi from oz and we were their bitches

The one and only time I can remember being impressed by them

There is a good project there for an ambitious manager. Pulis has left his mark and a new manager can leave theirs. They actually have a few decent players but a lot will be hard to shift

StokieSteve · « **Reply #130 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:03:36 pm »

Quote from: Aido LFC on May 21, 2013, 07:39:21 pm

Any particular manager that you would realistically like to see at Stoke.

A lot of the names being bandied around are pretty fucking scary to be honest. Could do a lot worse than Martinez I think.

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #131 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:04:22 pm »

Quote from: andymanlfc on May 21, 2013, 02:39:27 pm

Thank fuck! Isn't Rodgers about the 5th longest serving manager at a club now? haha

Pardew is second longest serving

exiledintheUSA · « **Reply #132 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:05:08 pm »

Quote from: StokieSteve on May 21, 2013, 08:03:36 pm

A lot of the names being bandied around are pretty fucking scary to be honest. Could do a lot worse than Martinez I think.

I think the teams playing style would be alot easier on the eye. Some fans of other teams may even start liking the club, maybe.

StokieSteve · « **Reply #133 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:07:15 pm »

Quote from: macca888 on May 21, 2013, 07:47:32 pm

You're obviously a good lad Steve, even though you'd not notice the difference if you supported the Blue Union but I just seriously cannot fucking stand that baseball hatted, shellsuit wearing, "well good innit" c*nt.

He'll always be special to Stoke fans though for what he's done.

StokieSteve · « **Reply #134 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:09:13 pm »

Quote from: exiledintheusa on May 21, 2013, 08:05:08 pm

I think the teams playing style would be alot easier on the eye. Some fans of other teams may even start liking the club, maybe.

Yeah, that would be a welcome change.

Sir Psycho Sexy · « **Reply #135 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:09:26 pm »

Quote from: The G in Gerrard on May 21, 2013, 08:04:22 pm

Pardew is second longest serving

Bit of a shit stat. He's only the second longest serving manager at his current club. And it's not even true. Martinez hasn't left Wigan yet, so he's been at his current club longer than pardew unless I've misinterpreted the stat

12C · « **Reply #136 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:10:06 pm »

Was watching our youth playing Stoke last season, and even at that level they had a human catapult taking the throws, after wiping the ball with a specially made shirt. Can't believe his youth scouts went looking for a kid who could just chuck long throws. And then we get the "why can't the British produce a Messi" press fest. Possible because those same hacks laud the "job" he has done with Stoke. Instilling his anti- football philosophy throughout the club? I will not miss his style of play.

child-in-time · « **Reply #137 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:11:00 pm »

Thanks God, he's finally gone. I couldn't stand him and his tactics. Hope that Stoke start playing some football.

rushyman · « **Reply #138 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:11:29 pm »

Jesus Christ this is ridiculous now

Ever since United won the league the good news has just been like a carousel of joy

Fuck off out of it you Cyril Sneer looking twat

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #139 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:12:15 pm »

Quote from: Sir Psycho Sexy on May 21, 2013, 08:09:26 pm

Bit of a shit stat. He's only the second longest serving manager at his current club. And it's not even true. Martinez hasn't left Wigan yet, so he's been at his current club longer than pardew unless I've misinterpreted the stat

Got it texted to me mate. Does include a lot of ifs and buts

mikey_LFC · « **Reply #140 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:20:10 pm »

Quote from: Sir Psycho Sexy on May 21, 2013, 08:09:26 pm

Bit of a shit stat. He's only the second longest serving manager at his current club. And it's not even true. Martinez hasn't left Wigan yet, so he's been at his current club longer than pardew unless I've misinterpreted the stat

At the start of next season he will currently be the second longest serving manager.

Unless he is sacked, then it will be Allardyce. Martinez is a football league manager.

Its not that shit, it shows how quickly football managers are sacked currently that only Wenger has been in a job longer than 3 years.

Pistolero · « **Reply #141 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:21:06 pm »

Quote from: rushyman on May 21, 2013, 08:11:29 pm

Ever since United won the league the good news has just been like a carousel of joy

Alf · « **Reply #142 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:22:08 pm »

That'll be Stokes last season in the Premier League.

WEST HAM PAUL · « **Reply #143 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:29:19 pm »

Can see Stoke struggling now . Sometimes be careful what you wish for stoke fans .

Phil M · « **Reply #144 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:32:03 pm »

Saw someone on the Stoke forum calling Martinez a Spanish Tony Mowbray!

Pistolero · « **Reply #145 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:36:12 pm »

Rafa favourite with the bookies to take over

Zeb · « **Reply #146 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:46:28 pm »

Quote from: Pistolero on May 21, 2013, 08:36:12 pm

Rafa favourite with the bookies to take over

Very decent budget to play with, huge project to turn around so many years of Pulis' work, a board which clearly is willing to give the manager time...

Still bonkers if he takes it, but you could see it being an interesting one for him. Massive job to turn that squad into something other than what it is though.

robertobaggio37 · « **Reply #147 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:46:56 pm »

Quote from: Pistolero on May 21, 2013, 08:36:12 pm

Rafa favourite with the bookies to take over

bait.

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #148 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:48:19 pm »

Could someone photoshop his face into a box of strawberries and we can call him Tony Punnet? Sound.

Dani LFC · « **Reply #149 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:48:41 pm »

Quote from: litliper on May 21, 2013, 02:08:15 pm

Surely we're not that lucky.

Why not? After all, Moyes went to the Mancs.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #150 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:27:56 pm »

Martinez would be an interesting appointment. Finally a chance for him to show that he can push a club on with a bit of money to spend. I can't decide whether he's been conning the media season after season, or he's genuinely done a top job and their relegation was to be expected. Pulis did reasonably well at Stoke, but when you look at some of his signings, you have to wonder if they could have achieved more under a more positive manager.

Kightly £3m, Adam £4m, Butland £6m, N'Zonzi £3m, Shea £3m, Crouch £10m, Palacios £8m, Jones £8m, Whitehead £3m, Huth £5m, Begovic £3m, Tuncay £5m, Kitson £5m, Olofinjana £3m.

That's a selection of Pulis's most notable dealings at Stoke. Some proved to be bargains, but others stand out as signings representing awful value. The average age of Pulis's signings needs to be considered as well. Stoke virtually never get a reasonable fee when they sell these players on. Bit of a low-end O'Neill approach. Overall their net spend under Pulis is close to £75m. Have they achieved enough?

Gifted Right Foot · « **Reply #151 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:35:46 pm »

Thank fuck.

Vdpr · « **Reply #152 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:35:51 pm »

Good riddance.

If Martinez got it it would be interesting to see how he deals with the squad left behind, most brought in specifically for Pulis' style of play. That's an awful lot of coaching or squad turnover to build towards what he would want to see from his teams.

mikey_LFC · « **Reply #153 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:42:51 pm »

Tony Pulis's Stoke finished 12th in the Premier League 5 years ago. Dortmund finished 13th in the Bundesliga that year.

Stoke have had a net spend of £80 million in the last 5 years. Borussia Dortmund have had a net spend of £0.7 million in the last 5 years.

Stoke have spent in total £88.6 million in the last 5 years. Borussia Dortmund spent £60.4 million in the same time.

In this time Stoke have bought Dave Kitson for £5.5 million. Dortmund have bought Lewandowski for £4 million.

Since then Stoke have won nothing and averaged 13th position. Dortmund have averaged 5th and have won the league twice.

It's amazing how different transfer's can pan out!

Lothairio · « **Reply #154 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:47:05 pm »

Quote from: StokieSteve on May 21, 2013, 08:09:13 pm

Yeah, that would be a welcome change.

Who do you fancy then Steve, as your next gaffer?

Max_powers · « **Reply #155 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:47:25 pm »

Now hoping that they don't just hire Tony Pulis MKII and go for a proper footballing manager. Pulis has spent boatload of cash and there team is as shit as ever. Pretty much all his buys have been shit or mediocre and Other than Begovic none of the their first team has any resale value. Had to be sacked, really even based on performance. 5 years, 100 million + net spend and still getting in relegation dogfights is unacceptable.

kennedy81 · « **Reply #156 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:49:13 pm »

End of an era...

FernandoSusoLFC · « **Reply #157 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:52:06 pm »

Tony Pulis' #BPL record with Stoke City:
Played 190, Won 56, Drew 57, Lost 77. Win percentage: 29%

StokieSteve · « **Reply #158 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:56:35 pm »

Quote from: Lothairio on May 21, 2013, 09:47:05 pm

Who do you fancy then Steve, as your next gaffer?

Rafa

but as I said, wishful thinking. I would take Martinez, I think he could do a good job given the time and budget.

Jshooters · « **Reply #159 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:58:11 pm »

Quote from: mikey_LFC on May 21, 2013, 09:42:51 pm

Tony Pulis's Stoke finished 12th in the Premier League 5 years ago. Dortmund finished 13th in the Bundesliga that year.

Stoke have had a net spend of £80 million in the last 5 years. Borussia Dortmund have had a net spend of £0.7 million in the last 5 years.

Stoke have spent in total £88.6 million in the last 5 years. Borussia Dortmund spent £60.4 million in the same time.

In this time Stoke have bought Dave Kitson for £5.5 million. Dortmund have bought Lewandowski for £4 million.

Since then Stoke have won nothing and averaged 13th position. Dortmund have averaged 5th and have won the league twice.

It's amazing how different transfer's can pan out!

that is incredible!