Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - WELCOME, 'A PLAYER'!!

[Carra-ton]

Tsimikas looks really good. I Was seeing the Wolves game in Europa the other day. I thought we were signing Lewis then, but was genuinely impressed by the guy. His defending against Adama Traore was top notch, and one of his runs was absolutely brilliant which ended in a shot on target which was brilliantly saved by Rui Patricio.
I have to say, he is defensively very strong, and could handle Traore's physicality and pace 6 or 7 times in 1v1 very well. He was rapid as well.
Have to say, Robertson has good competition on hand after having old man Milner as nearest rival.

[Jm55]

Anyone think it’s a bit mad that according to Kevin Palmer we’ve told Tsmikas that he was our first choice all along? Admittedly I know little of transfer tactics, so maybe I’m missing something, but surely the player can see that we’ve, very recently had a 10 million bid rejected for a player in his position and have subsequently moved on?

[RayPhilAlan]

Anyone think it’s a bit mad that according to Kevin Palmer we’ve told Tsmikas that he was our first choice all along? Admittedly I know little of transfer tactics, so maybe I’m missing something, but surely the player can see that we’ve, very recently had a 10 million bid rejected for a player in his position and have subsequently moved on?

The word is that we bid for Tsimikas first. When his club was slow to negotiate, we bid for Lewis very publicly. That brought Olympiakos to the negotiating table.

[fredfrop]

The word is that we bid for Tsimikas first. When his club was slow to negotiate, we bid for Lewis very publicly. That brought Olympiakos to the negotiating table.

The crafty buggers 

[PeterTheRed ...]

Depends on Brewster I think

Origi might want 1st team football. He would get in to many PL sides.  Villa, Leeds and Wolves interested.

As things stand at the moment, Origi is our 4th attacking option. That means a lot of playing time at one of the best clubs in the World. Origi doesn't seem unhappy with his role at LFC. Lets not forget that he has rejected a move to the Wolves before.

Like I said above, I can only see Origi going if we sign another 4th attacking option (the original idea with Werner). If that doesn't happen, I am pretty sure that Origi will stay.

[Oskar]

Anyone think it’s a bit mad that according to Kevin Palmer we’ve told Tsmikas that he was our first choice all along? Admittedly I know little of transfer tactics, so maybe I’m missing something, but surely the player can see that we’ve, very recently had a 10 million bid rejected for a player in his position and have subsequently moved on?

Think it’s mad than anyone would take Kevin Palmer seriously.

The first choice/smokescreen stuff is all a bit overblown. We’ve gone for the cheapest option, which isn’t a criticism. We had a small list of players whose profile and attributes all matched what we wanted in a back up LB and went for the deal that best represented value for money.

[Samie]

Anyone think it’s a bit mad that according to Kevin Palmer we’ve told Tsmikas that he was our first choice all along? Admittedly I know little of transfer tactics, so maybe I’m missing something, but surely the player can see that we’ve, very recently had a 10 million bid rejected for a player in his position and have subsequently moved on?

Michael Edwards can sell snow to the Eskimos.

[an fear dearg]

Michael Edwards can sell snow to the Eskimos.

And he would have a cast iron 20% sell on fee which would include melting as a transfer!

[clinical]

That video shows that if Olympiakos and his other clubs had some quality forwards then this lad would be up to 20 assists - his crossing is really good. Looks quick too, especially from a standing start.

He actually looks like Robbo. Maybe not quite as strong but better dribbling. EIther way he looks good, but it is youtube.

[clinical]

Anyone think it’s a bit mad that according to Kevin Palmer we’ve told Tsmikas that he was our first choice all along? Admittedly I know little of transfer tactics, so maybe I’m missing something, but surely the player can see that we’ve, very recently had a 10 million bid rejected for a player in his position and have subsequently moved on?

Some reports say we bid for this guy first, which was rejected, then went after Lewis.

[Samie]

And he would have a cast iron 20% sell on fee which would include melting as a transfer!

As one would mate. Then he would jump on a private plane to the Sahara to meet the desert folks and negotiate a sand fee.

[PeterTheRed ...]

James Pearce has a story in the Athletic today on our transfer plans. Nothing new really but to sum up:

Ben White has been extensively scouted, fits the club’s target profile and is highly regarded by Klopp who feels there’s a lack of top CBs available. But points out Brighton are reluctant to sell and have already turned down £22m from Leeds. Piece says Aissa Mandi is cheaper and more realistic.

Anfield sources playing down Thiago talk and say we’re satisfied with midfield options.

And mentions the need to cover the front three having walked away from Werner. Says Ismaila Sarr is on the radar and Klopp was impressed by him in the 3-0 against us.

So, Pearce has confirmed our interest in Mandi. Interesting development, since the local press in Seville have already reported last week that we've made a bid for him, but Betis want a couple of million more. We could see some progress at this front in the coming days.

[Barefoot Doctor]

A couple of months ago, it seemed doubtful we'd do business at all. Then the line became we may do business, but if we do it'll be late in the window. Now we've spent £12m on a back-up LB and the players aren't even back for pre-season.

That's really encouraging to me, and suggests there's a bit more confidence at the club than there was in May and June. I'd be prioritising an attacker, but hopefully we can also get a CB. Thiago would be lovely too but I'm not expecting it.

[clinical]

A couple of months ago, it seemed doubtful we'd do business at all. Then the line became we may do business, but if we do it'll be late in the window. Now we've spent £12m on a back-up LB and the players aren't even back for pre-season.

That's really encouraging to me, and suggests there's a bit more confidence at the club than there was in May and June. I'd be prioritising an attacker, but hopefully we can also get a CB. Thiago would be lovely too but I'm not expecting it.

I think we'll spend money only if we sell, that's my guess.

Lovren gone £11m now £11m spend of Tsimikas.

Origi, Shaqiri, Wilson, Grujic, Phillips, Ojo, and few others could yet still be sold. Could be talking £75m to bring in there. If we have to get another Klavan type as 4th choice cb then so be it. I think back up forward is the most important. 

[elsewhere]

Can we call him "The Greek Freak"?

[PeterTheRed ...]

A couple of months ago, it seemed doubtful we'd do business at all. Then the line became we may do business, but if we do it'll be late in the window. Now we've spent £12m on a back-up LB and the players aren't even back for pre-season.

That's really encouraging to me, and suggests there's a bit more confidence at the club than there was in May and June. I'd be prioritising an attacker, but hopefully we can also get a CB. Thiago would be lovely too but I'm not expecting it.

If this turns out to be a sell-to-buy summer, I will be fine with that, considering the situation. So far, we have sold Lovren, and signed Tsimikas for roughly the same amount. The next step would be to find buyers for our fringe players (Shaqiri, Wilson, Grujic, Karius and a few more), and we will very likely sign a new backup central defender and a new backup forward.

[Barefoot Doctor]

In other LB news, Sheffield United getting Antonee Robinson from Wigan for just £2m. Really intrigued by him, came up the youth ranks at Everton and starts for the US national team.

[Henry Kissinger]

Have we signed Thiago yet? And if not, why not?

[mickeydocs]

A couple of months ago, it seemed doubtful we'd do business at all. Then the line became we may do business, but if we do it'll be late in the window. Now we've spent £12m on a back-up LB and the players aren't even back for pre-season.

Just look at the news coming out of Juve, there are top teams in real trouble. My hope is we chose not to buy Werner due to the change in dates for the Afcon next year and the possibility of a fire sale at a number of distressed clubs.

[ScottishKopite]

Have we signed Thiago yet? And if not, why not?

Still playing in Champions league and starting id imagine any deal to sign Thiago will be after the champions league or when Bayern get knocked out.

Id imagine we would need to wait a few more weeks if we singing him as Bayern will win the champions league .

[rafathegaffa83]

In other LB news, Sheffield United getting Antonee Robinson from Wigan for just £2m. Really intrigued by him, came up the youth ranks at Everton and starts for the US national team.

Moneyball move by them. Looks to be a significant drop in price. Milan were rumoured to be paying around €12m

[ScouserAtHeart]

I think we'll spend money only if we sell, that's my guess.

Lovren gone £11m now £11m spend of Tsimikas.

Origi, Shaqiri, Wilson, Grujic, Phillips, Ojo, and few others could yet still be sold. Could be talking £75m to bring in there. If we have to get another Klavan type as 4th choice cb then so be it. I think back up forward is the most important. 

I'm not so sure we'll get more than 50 for those in total. Should still be enough for a backup CB and forward

[Barefoot Doctor]

Moneyball move by them. Looks to be a significant drop in price. Milan were rumoured to be paying around €12m

Relegation release clause apparently. And them being in administration probably didn't help.

[clinical]

I'm not so sure we'll get more than 50 for those in total. Should still be enough for a backup CB and forward

Well i really doubt we're going to accept less (if they are to be sold) than £15m for any of Grujic, Wilson, Shaqiri or Origi mate and that's £60m.

[Rush 82]

Well i really doubt we're going to accept less (if they are to be sold) than £15m for any of Grujic, Wilson, Shaqiri or Origi mate and that's £60m.

Don't forget to subtract agent commission

[Red Cactii]

So, Pearce has confirmed our interest in Mandi. Interesting development, since the local press in Seville have already reported last week that we've made a bid for him, but Betis want a couple of million more. We could see some progress at this front in the coming days.

I’m not sure he did really, the article in question was a part of the “sensible transfers” series The Athletic are running where they talk about moves the club should make. Here’s what was written.

Signing a centre-back is also a necessity this summer following the £10.9 million sale of Dejan Lovren to Zenit St Petersburg.....  Financial constraints mean that Napoli’s Kalidou Koulibaly and Diego Carlos of Sevilla are out of the question. Real Betis’s Aissa Mandi would be a cheaper, and more realistic, option.

[clinical]

Don't forget to subtract agent commission

Already have. I mean pretty sure Pearce said we'd want over £20m for Wilson even after Covid. Origi won't be sold for less than £20m either. Long gone are the times we sell for pittance.

[PeterTheRed ...]

I’m not sure he did really, the article in question was a part of the “sensible transfers” series The Athletic are running where they talk about moves the club should make. Here’s what was written.

Well, that is pretty much a confirmation, mentioning the player by name, and discussing his price and availability.

[Henderson19]

Won’t pretend to be an expert on Tsimikas but I did watch a bit of the Europa League game and he looked like a Robertson clone sometimes. Gets forward a lot. Put in a beauty of a cross late on which deserved a goal. Another tidy bit of business by Edwards and co.

[Oskar]

I’d rather us go with the ‘Fabinho at CB in an emergency’ option rather than sign a player like Mandi.

If Klopp thinks there is a dearth of top-class CBs available, I hope we look at players who have the potential to reach that level at Liverpool. Ben White would be great but there will be cheaper options out there if we think he’s too expensive.

[Vinay]

Is Grujic in the long term plans at all? If no, why not?

[newterp]

Is Grujic in the long term plans at all? If no, why not?

He isn’t going to displace anyone in this midfield - even as a sub. And I wouldn’t be surprised if we are ok with turning a decent profit on him (5m purchase).

We have Jones who has shown he deserves a spot there as well.

[Dim Glas]

Is Grujic in the long term plans at all? If no, why not?

I can’t see him being.

Fabinho, Henderson, Keita, Wijnaldum, Ox, Jones, Milner is the reason for why not. Yes, Milner and Gini if he doesn’t sign a new deal may not be long term options, but it’s still a tough group to get ahead of!

He’s 24, I think the club said through the journos they use that there wont be another loan, it is likely time for a permanent move away if they get the right offer.

[ScouserAtHeart]

I wish Wolves were shit and we could've had Coady back

[LallanaInPyjamas]

I wish Wolves were shit and we could've had Coady back

I don't think he can play centre-back in a two to be honest, he'd play the holding midfield role for us. He's basically Wolves' sweeper who rarely needs to tackle or head the ball.

[Drinks Sangria]

Is Grujic in the long term plans at all? If no, why not?

Having watched a lot of the Bundesliga and a decent amount of Hertha (who were having a disastrous season but after Klinsmann left really started to improve rapidly) I’d say that he’s possibly too slow, simply put to play in our midfield. Don’t get me wrong, none of our current midfielders are speed demons but Grujic can lumber at times and can be quite static and reactive.

I certainly think it would take a complete rewiring of his instincts to turn him into part of a pressing unit. He also displays some very poor decision making at times, with pass selection, when to shoot etc. Don’t get me wrong he’s improved a lot from last season to now, but it’s still not enough. Seems to fancy himself as an 8 but is better as a 6 and I wouldn’t give him any of Hendo or Fabinho’s minutes.

[Vinay]

I can’t see him being.

Fabinho, Henderson, Keita, Wijnaldum, Ox, Jones, Milner is the reason for why not. Yes, Milner and Gini if he doesn’t sign a new deal may not be long term options, but it’s still a tough group to get ahead of!

He’s 24, I think the club said through the journos they use that there wont be another loan, it is likely time for a permanent move away if they get the right offer.

Ie, he is not good enough compared with the above mentioned...

[BarryCrocker]

So with the money we got for Lovren we're probably signing a backup LB with half the wage of lovren. Time to sign a 4th choice CB on a free with the other half of the wage now.

£11.75m fee, £50k per week, 4 year contract, 20% sell-on clause according to the Guardian.

[Samie]

And even if we did play with a three, he'd hardly get a game as it would a three of Virgil, Joe and Joel. 

[ScouserAtHeart]

I don't think he can play centre-back in a two to be honest, he'd play the holding midfield role for us. He's basically Wolves' sweeper who rarely needs to tackle or head the ball.

Think he'd be okay playing in a two if the other's Big Virg