Topic: Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Struggling online. Keep getting shot in the back and sides. Feels like each COD, this is happening more. Either im getting shitter, or the map design is getting sillier.

I'm getting annihilated to be honest, the only other COD I've done this badly in was Infinite Warfare, and let's be clear, we all only bought it to get our hands on MW Remastered, Infinite Warfare had an amazing campaign, very very underrated, but anyway, Cold War is a sweat fest, it's either Snipers, Famas, MP5 (still), they're gonna end up nerfing every gun the way they're going!

[Andy_lfc]

From what I have seen from Youtubers etc, I just cannot bring myself to part with my cash for this game... yet. And I am someone that has bought every CoD at launch (bar Infinite Warfare obviously).  How can the developers think that only 6 (six!) specific 6v6 maps is acceptable to launch this game with?  I know that there are cut down 12v12 maps too, but that feels like a panic decision to try and bump up the content.

Does no one remember Black Ops 2? 14 (Fourteen!) maps on launch date, plus Nuketown with the pre-order.  The DLCs added a further 16 maps (I realise these were at extra cost).  I get the arguments about other improvements and complexities in map design, gun design, attachments etc, but to me this isn't a good enough compromise. 

I might pick it up once they release more maps, but it feels like this game has been rushed out too early to pick up pre Christmas sales.  Is there any intel regarding how COVID affected the development of this game?  Is this really the game they envisioned releasing?

[Elzar]

The problem with multiplayer and warzone is the Youtube walkthroughs and metas. Everyone ends up with the same load outs, the same tactics and it gets too repetitive to play against.

[dalarr]

Have you tried Hardcore mode? You can basically use any gun you want and not have a disadvantage. Haven’t played core since WaW where 98% of the players used the MP40.

[RedSince86]

From what I have seen from Youtubers etc, I just cannot bring myself to part with my cash for this game... yet. And I am someone that has bought every CoD at launch (bar Infinite Warfare obviously).  How can the developers think that only 6 (six!) specific 6v6 maps is acceptable to launch this game with?  I know that there are cut down 12v12 maps too, but that feels like a panic decision to try and bump up the content.

Does no one remember Black Ops 2? 14 (Fourteen!) maps on launch date, plus Nuketown with the pre-order.  The DLCs added a further 16 maps (I realise these were at extra cost).  I get the arguments about other improvements and complexities in map design, gun design, attachments etc, but to me this isn't a good enough compromise. 

I might pick it up once they release more maps, but it feels like this game has been rushed out too early to pick up pre Christmas sales.  Is there any intel regarding how COVID affected the development of this game?  Is this really the game they envisioned releasing?

To be fair to Treyarch they had one year to make this game instead of 2 year window, the CoD game this year should have been a Sledgehammer game but they got dumped by Activision and Cold War would be slated for November next year.

The last update for BO4 came a month before MW came out, the game had no support or patches at all in year 2, Treyarch went straight to work on Cold War and Covid would have also put a spanner in the works that put the development on hold.

Xmas/New Year we should see more maps, the classics like Summit, Firing Range, Slums, Grind and some from BO1 and new maps.

[Andy_lfc]

To be fair to Treyarch they had one year to make this game instead of 2 year window, the CoD game this year should have been a Sledgehammer game but they got dumped by Activision and Cold War would be slated for November next year.

The last update for BO4 came a month before MW came out, the game had no support or patches at all in year 2, Treyarch went straight to work on Cold War and Covid would have also put a spanner in the works that put the development on hold.

That does sound about right and it appears (though I haven't played it) to show in the content offering for this game. The movement and gunplay are all tweaks on a tried and tested formula that Treyarch have always been good at.  The lack of content is where it shows, and would they really have wanted to crowbar Cold War in to the current Warzone had they had the time to develop the game properly?  Modern Warfare was a bit content light at launch and grew from there, but Cold War is starting from an even lower base.  The addition of the 2v2/3v3 maps and modes in MW was great, I can't understand why they wouldn't want to keep that legacy going - other than lack of time.  You can't say they binned them off to concentrate on making incredible 6v6/12v12 content as there is barely any of that either.

It feels like a rushed, profit driven venture - Activision rely on Call of Duty sales each year probably more than any other game.  Which means this has not been released as anywhere near the version it could have been.  Plenty of other businesses have had to take hit and delay releases due to COVID, I really think that Activision should have made the choice to do the same - then no one would have to make excuses for the game.  Launching like this cheapens the Call of Duty brand even further.  I guess shareholders need their payday before gamers get a decent product.

I didn't enjoy writing that as Treyarch have made my favourite games in this franchise.

[Elzar]

That does sound about right and it appears (though I haven't played it) to show in the content offering for this game. The movement and gunplay are all tweaks on a tried and tested formula that Treyarch have always been good at.  The lack of content is where it shows, and would they really have wanted to crowbar Cold War in to the current Warzone had they had the time to develop the game properly?  Modern Warfare was a bit content light at launch and grew from there, but Cold War is starting from an even lower base.  The addition of the 2v2/3v3 maps and modes in MW was great, I can't understand why they wouldn't want to keep that legacy going - other than lack of time.  You can't say they binned them off to concentrate on making incredible 6v6/12v12 content as there is barely any of that either.

It feels like a rushed, profit driven venture - Activision rely on Call of Duty sales each year probably more than any other game.  Which means this has not been released as anywhere near the version it could have been.  Plenty of other businesses have had to take hit and delay releases due to COVID, I really think that Activision should have made the choice to do the same - then no one would have to make excuses for the game.  Launching like this cheapens the Call of Duty brand even further.  I guess shareholders need their payday before gamers get a decent product.

I didn't enjoy writing that as Treyarch have made my favourite games in this franchise.

I wonder if they were surprised by how well Warzone went. I'm sure I read that Warzone alone makes them so much money with people buying skins and everything, so they could have given a year off if they needed and cited COVID and wanting to bring out a perfect game surely...?

[RedSince86]

Nuketown looks fantastic visually, looks like they used every colour possible on it.

[swoopy]

Noticed my Series X has been crashing randomly when playing this.
From googling it it seems like it's been reported by a few others too, with one person's Series X actually getting bricked (ouch!).
Advice is not to play it on a Series X until a patch is released.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Noticed my Series X has been crashing randomly when playing this.
From googling it it seems like it's been reported by a few others too, with one person's Series X actually getting bricked (ouch!).
Advice is not to play it on a Series X until a patch is released.

I've personally not encountered any issues mate.

[swoopy]

I've personally not encountered any issues mate.

That's good mate
Out of curiosity did you get the normal version or the series X/S cross gen edition ?

[Flash6289]

I read that it's causing both the Xbox Series X and Xbox One X to crash - the game definitely needs patching.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

That's good mate
Out of curiosity did you get the normal version or the series X/S cross gen edition ?

I bought the Ultimate version for £89, I do gameshare with my son as he's into the Zombies.

[RedSince86]

Posts on the Cold war Reddit of PS5's bricking now playing this game.

[J-Mc-]

Apparently it’s an issue with the raytracing that’s causing it.

Saw someone say they turned the raytracing off (performance mode) and the game started running fine.

[LOKKO]

My xbox one randomly crashed and turned off yesterday when loading the this first time I've ever had that happen

[RedSince86]

Someone on the Cold War reddit ripped this from Parks And Recreation abd added their own words and it's absolutely brilliant riposte at the state of SBMM in this game.

https://preview.redd.it/ix3cr0btnj361.gif?format=mp4&s=997fd5115fd241c820249ffc922f0dab9f594e01

[gwalk]

did the campaign over the weekend,

cant get into the multiplayer at all though, needs more maps

[RedSince86]

did the campaign over the weekend,

cant get into the multiplayer at all though, needs more maps

New maps and season one on December 16th.

Raid map from BO2 is one of the maps with a bunch of new ones.

[Andy_lfc]

New maps and season one on December 16th.

Raid map from BO2 is one of the maps with a bunch of new ones.

At the risk of repeating myself, you would think that 'Season One' would maybe start on the day of launch?  Trumpeting new maps one month after launching an unfinished game to start bringing the game nearer an acceptable map count is pretty lame.  One of them being Raid, a map I played to death for 2 years previously - new content it is not.  Feels like they really don't want my money this year.

I guess MW2019 got better over time.  Maybe this will?

[RedKenWah]

At the risk of repeating myself, you would think that 'Season One' would maybe start on the day of launch?  Trumpeting new maps one month after launching an unfinished game to start bringing the game nearer an acceptable map count is pretty lame.  One of them being Raid, a map I played to death for 2 years previously - new content it is not.  Feels like they really don't want my money this year.

I guess MW2019 got better over time.  Maybe this will?

It’s the way game developers make games these days, release a tiny fraction of a game at launch and make more cash with DLC/season passes etc...

It sucks but people still throw money at it.

[L4Red]

New maps and season one on December 16th.

Raid map from BO2 is one of the maps with a bunch of new ones.

Is this going to be paid content? I've not played online yet and it's really frustrating the amount of bugs in the bots multiplayer options, certain maps not working etc.

[Elzar]

Is this going to be paid content? I've not played online yet and it's really frustrating the amount of bugs in the bots multiplayer options, certain maps not working etc.

No, they release new things with every "season". So they just update the games, change a few game modes and add some guns.

[Mr Mingebag Squid]

At the risk of repeating myself, you would think that 'Season One' would maybe start on the day of launch?  Trumpeting new maps one month after launching an unfinished game to start bringing the game nearer an acceptable map count is pretty lame.  One of them being Raid, a map I played to death for 2 years previously - new content it is not.  Feels like they really don't want my money this year.

I guess MW2019 got better over time.  Maybe this will?

I think this delay is down to linking it all together with Warzone etc rather than them just being money grabbing shits. They're still money grabbing shits though.

Saying that, I had every season pass for Modern Warfare and actually think it was well worth the money.

[Elzar]

I think this delay is down to linking it all together with Warzone etc rather than them just being money grabbing shits. They're still money grabbing shits though.

Saying that, I had every season pass for Modern Warfare and actually think it was well worth the money.

Nothing in the season pass actually adds to the game though does it? You can play it exactly the same without.

I gained enough coins to just get it from about season 4.

[Andy_lfc]

Nothing in the season pass actually adds to the game though does it? You can play it exactly the same without.

I gained enough coins to just get it from about season 4.

Yeah, i think this is following the same model as MW2019 where the paid content doesn't necessarily give you any in-game advantage and all new maps are 'free'.

I know this is how developers are now releasing games, but this feels like the worst it has been for a Call of Duty release.

I am going to be positive now - I read that Season 1 will include some 2v2 maps - the 2v2 and 3v3 game modes in MW2019 are probably the most fun I have had in that multiplayer so hopefully these work well.

[Mr Mingebag Squid]

Nothing in the season pass actually adds to the game though does it? You can play it exactly the same without.

I gained enough coins to just get it from about season 4.

Doesn't add anything to actual game play what so ever. All you get is new weapons, blueprints, skins, collectible things that mean sod all if you aren't arsed about collecting them.

Any new maps are added for "free". That being said, I don't remember them adding any new maps in MW

[naYoRHa2b]

Doesn't add anything to actual game play what so ever. All you get is new weapons, blueprints, skins, collectible things that mean sod all if you aren't arsed about collecting them.

Any new maps are added for "free". That being said, I don't remember them adding any new maps in MW

I don't know if the following ones have been in other cod games but I'd never played Superstore, Khandor, Sawmill, Cheshire Park,. Oil Rig or Mialstor before so they seemed new to me and were added for free on top of classic cod maps. 16 added maps in a year on top of 10 at launch. Felt like good value coming from Black Ops 4 where there wasnt even a campaign and the BR equivalent wasn't F2P.

[Mr Mingebag Squid]

I don't know if the following ones have been in other cod games but I'd never played Superstore, Khandor, Sawmill, Cheshire Park,. Oil Rig or Mialstor before so they seemed new to me and were added for free on top of classic cod maps. 16 added maps in a year on top of 10 at launch. Felt like good value coming from Black Ops 4 where there wasnt even a campaign and the BR equivalent wasn't F2P.

The last call of duty I played was when it was set in world war two, so I'd never played any maps! I don't even think it had multiplayer back then!!

[naYoRHa2b]

The last call of duty I played was when it was set in world war two, so I'd never played any maps! I don't even think it had multiplayer back then!!

Simpler times!

[XabiGerrard]

Any news on this being patched? Was thinking of getting it at Christmas to go with the series X but don’t want it to brick the console straight away haha

[XabiGerrard]

The multiplayer is free to play for a week if anyone is interested. 90+gb download though!

https://twitter.com/callofduty/status/1339647004113170433?s=21

[gerrardisgod]

Only limited maps/modes though, isn’t it?

Swerving it totally this year, it just looks so bereft of content or new ideas.

[Elzar]

Only limited maps/modes though, isn’t it?

Swerving it totally this year, it just looks so bereft of content or new ideas.

Absolutely full of glitches at the moment too!

Waiting for the new year to get back on Warzone.

[L4Red]

Constantly crashing for me, load of shite.

[IgorBobbins]

Tried one match then deleted it.  Can’t even be arsed explaining all the things wrong with it.  What on earth happened to Treyarch (and Call of Duty in general)?  Awful.

[naYoRHa2b]

I've not played any multiplayer matches since season one kicked off. Played a bit of warzone which now has the cold war crossover. Was expecting a new map but all they did was re-use the map 'Alcatraz Portals' from black ops 4. Just comes across as a second thought and hasn't been given the proper support post launch. They could be doing loads with content updates and map changes every season but they don't besides a few cosmetics which run across MW, WZ & CW.

[ScottishKopite]

I never liked the new map but played it a couple times and like the set up with the trios and if you die and team still alive you will respawn instead of being out or going to the gulag . I am hoping they make a new bigger WZ map Verdansk needs freshened up or a complete change .

[RedSince86]

I've gone back to BO4 active, me and few friends teaming up have been jumping into lobbies using just Ballistic knives and combat axes. it's super fun.
 
SBMM is just ruining Cold War for me, it's not fun and just a sweat fest, i don't even feel like jumping on the game for the Xmas noobs to boost my KD.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

I've gone back to BO4 active, me and few friends teaming up have been jumping into lobbies using just Ballistic knives and combat axes. it's super fun.
 
SBMM is just ruining Cold War for me, it's not fun and just a sweat fest, i don't even feel like jumping on the game for the Xmas noobs to boost my KD.

Don't bother, the lag was that bad actually it was actually tanking my framerate!