Author Topic: Sony PlayStation 4 (Read 505926 times)

Motty · « **Reply #40 on:** February 2, 2013, 04:00:30 pm »

Quote from: &spades;Dirty Harry&spades; on February 2, 2013, 03:34:46 pm

I wasn't being a fan boy, I was making a point to iSmiff.

The convenience of sticking a DVD into a drive and having it load almost completely negates the issues I have with the drop in quality graphically, the only thing I don't like about console gaming is how it tends to dumb down titles for the mouth breathers who like big arrows pointing them in the direction they need to go.

I will probably buy a next gen console (probably x-box), my first console since the Sega Saturn, I'll use my PC for games I think deserve the horsepower.

do you play all the games on your PC with a plug in controller,im asking because my daughter's been asking about getting games for her laptop using a controller, which I never knew you could do

Malaysian Kopite · « **Reply #41 on:** February 2, 2013, 04:06:03 pm »

Quote from: Shady77 on February 2, 2013, 04:00:30 pm

do you play all the games on your PC with a plug in controller,im asking because my daughter's been asking about getting games for her laptop using a controller, which I never knew you could do

Yes you can, and many controllers can be used for bot a PC and console. Having a controller is better for certain games.

Cochise · « **Reply #42 on:** February 2, 2013, 04:10:06 pm »

Fuck, I only just got another ps3 about 3 weeks ago.

Motty · « **Reply #43 on:** February 2, 2013, 04:12:23 pm »

Quote from: Malaysian Kopite on February 2, 2013, 04:06:03 pm

Yes you can, and many controllers can be used for bot a PC and console. Having a controller is better for certain games.

I can't play games with the keys at all ,so glad to hear about the controller, guessing it has to be plugged in through the USB

DanFromMars · « **Reply #44 on:** February 2, 2013, 04:13:07 pm »

Quote from: iSmiff on February 2, 2013, 03:03:57 pm

i can buy a game for my pc for about £15-20 less than a console game.

for example i picked up devil may cry for £12

You got robbed lad.

http://www.cddiski.ru/pc/games/action/tps/dmc-devil-may-cry-pc.htm

Malaysian Kopite · « **Reply #45 on:** February 2, 2013, 04:19:16 pm »

Quote from: Shady77 on February 2, 2013, 04:12:23 pm

I can't play games with the keys at all ,so glad to hear about the controller, guessing it has to be plugged in through the USB

Yep.

Motty · « **Reply #46 on:** February 2, 2013, 04:20:02 pm »

Quote from: Malaysian Kopite on February 2, 2013, 04:19:16 pm

Yep.

sound

♠Dirty Harry♠ · « **Reply #47 on:** February 2, 2013, 04:59:13 pm »

Quote from: Shady77 on February 2, 2013, 04:00:30 pm

do you play all the games on your PC with a plug in controller,im asking because my daughter's been asking about getting games for her laptop using a controller, which I never knew you could do

I play racing games with a controller, but for nearly every other type of game... keys and the mouse rule.

I've got a great Logitech Chillstream controller for the PC with fans built in for those times when all hell is breaking loose after a long session. It's very comfortable, though at £30 sheets it's not cheap.

Motty · « **Reply #48 on:** February 2, 2013, 05:06:43 pm »

Quote from: &spades;Dirty Harry&spades; on February 2, 2013, 04:59:13 pm

I play racing games with a controller, but for nearly every other type of game... keys and the mouse rule.

I've got a great Logitech Chillstream controller for the PC with fans built in for those times when all hell is breaking loose after a long session. It's very comfortable, though at £30 sheets it's not cheap.

I always press the wrong keys on the keyboard, so im going to have to get a controller, probably look to get a midrange one as I don't play much , cheers Harry

iSmiff · « **Reply #49 on:** February 2, 2013, 05:35:32 pm »

the convenience of sticking in a dvd

LOL

or you could play twenty different games on a pc without changing a disc once

iSmiff · « **Reply #50 on:** February 2, 2013, 05:36:39 pm »

Quote from: DanFromMars on February 2, 2013, 04:13:07 pm

You got robbed lad.

http://www.cddiski.ru/pc/games/action/tps/dmc-devil-may-cry-pc.htm

i don't buy russian games, mine was EU

Drake31 · « **Reply #51 on:** February 2, 2013, 07:50:38 pm »

anyway the news on the 20th mite not even be about ps4

Tomo! · « **Reply #52 on:** February 2, 2013, 09:08:30 pm »

As an ex pc gamer i struggled with using a controller for playing fps at first.

I bought a frag fx mouse mouse and nunchuck combo and thought that even though the build quality was a bit shit and it was a ball ache setting up the basic principles of it are a great idea.

Sacked it off in the end as it only really worked properly on COD andI I got into Battlefield so I had to learn how to get on with the dualshock. I'm pretty handy with one now on fps but nothing beats using a mouse but I think that the nunchuck is better than using a keyboard.
Really could do with Sony releasing an official one that's good build quality and fuss free.

Here's the frag fx.

Paul-LFC · « **Reply #53 on:** February 2, 2013, 11:03:26 pm »

Not sure why I forgot to put this in the OP in the first place, but Sony will be live streaming the announcement, it'll be at 11pm GMT on the 20th.

<a href="http://games.webgamedesign.com/free/counter2-1.swf?title=Countdown%20to%20PlayStation%204%20Reveal&count=down&time=1361401200000&bgc=0xffffff&bgb=0&bgd=0&bc=0xff0000&bb=1&bd=0&tc=0x000000&tb=0&td=1&uc=0xff0000&ub=1&ud=1&nc=0xffffff&nb=0&nd=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://games.webgamedesign.com/free/counter2-1.swf?title=Countdown%20to%20PlayStation%204%20Reveal&count=down&time=1361401200000&bgc=0xffffff&bgb=0&bgd=0&bc=0xff0000&bb=1&bd=0&tc=0x000000&tb=0&td=1&uc=0xff0000&ub=1&ud=1&nc=0xffffff&nb=0&nd=1</a>

longball · « **Reply #54 on:** February 2, 2013, 11:16:58 pm »

When is MS's new console expected, I always assumed they would be coming out with theirs before Sony.

Paul-LFC · « **Reply #55 on:** February 2, 2013, 11:27:48 pm »

Quote from: longball on February 2, 2013, 11:16:58 pm

When is MS's new console expected, I always assumed they would be coming out with theirs before Sony.

Definitely revealed this year, E3 at the latest I'd say but there are rumours they might take out a Superbowl advert for it.

It'll still probably be out here before the PS4, Sony don't usually do worldwide launches although I hope they do this time.

DanFromMars · « **Reply #56 on:** February 3, 2013, 10:42:48 am »

Quote from: iSmiff on February 2, 2013, 05:36:39 pm

i don't buy russian games, mine was EU

Mine's on Steam

Kashinoda · « **Reply #57 on:** February 3, 2013, 11:56:15 pm »

Quote from: Shady77 on February 2, 2013, 05:06:43 pm

I always press the wrong keys on the keyboard, so im going to have to get a controller, probably look to get a midrange one as I don't play much , cheers Harry

Pickup a second hand Xbox360 or PS3 controller on eBay. Both work fully on PC and most modern games automatically configure the button layout for you

AB LFC · « **Reply #58 on:** February 4, 2013, 10:14:54 am »

Quote from: Paul-LFC on February 2, 2013, 11:03:26 pm

Not sure why I forgot to put this in the OP in the first place, but Sony will be live streaming the announcement, it'll be at 11pm GMT on the 20th.

Can imagine some geeky fanboy sitting all alone in his dark room doing nothing but looking at that countdown for the next 16 days

Paul-LFC · « **Reply #59 on:** February 4, 2013, 12:13:30 pm »

Quote from: Joey C on February 4, 2013, 10:14:54 am

Can imagine some geeky fanboy sitting all alone in his dark room doing nothing but looking at that countdown for the next 16 days

And then he'd still have 10 hours to wait!

♠Dirty Harry♠ · « **Reply #60 on:** February 4, 2013, 12:20:20 pm »

Quote from: iSmiff on February 2, 2013, 05:35:32 pm

the convenience of sticking in a dvd

LOL

or you could play twenty different games on a pc without changing a disc once

It has it's benefits, but I'm a lazy bastard and waiting for games to install fucking irks me, as I said I'll keep the PC for the special titles.

DanFromMars · « **Reply #61 on:** February 4, 2013, 03:26:49 pm »

Quote from: Joey C on February 4, 2013, 10:14:54 am

Can imagine some geeky fanboy sitting all alone in his dark room doing nothing but looking at that countdown for the next 16 days

He could just get a job and make enough money to buy a PS4 already.... a medium spec pc

N-Red · « **Reply #62 on:** February 5, 2013, 05:21:36 pm »

Are the rumored PS4 specs equivelent to a mid range PC? ^

PC gaming is definitely something i'm going to get into in the coming years, probably when i graduate and get a job.

Right now consoles and a laptop suit me.

DanFromMars · « **Reply #63 on:** February 5, 2013, 06:00:19 pm »

Quote from: N-Red on February 5, 2013, 05:21:36 pm

Are the rumored PS4 specs equivelent to a mid range PC? ^

Best they can be are a mid spec pc mate, don't believe the rumours of them sticking high spec stuff in it. the current Wii U GPU is not even a ATI 5770 and you can have one of them for peanuts. Sony went (sort of)high end with the Ps3 and it was a disaster, $600 launch and only started selling when they dropped the price and were making losses on each console. No way they're going to go that path again. I expect a moderate tech improvement over the Ps3 which is already quite decent and maybe games coming out in proper 1080p.

We'll see when they announce it in a few weeks anyway. I expect it'll be things like better cloud based stuff and more media integration than pushing full on with graphical/hardware improvements.

Something Awful · « **Reply #64 on:** February 5, 2013, 06:07:55 pm »

Man I just can't get excited for this. What if I'm growing out of video games?

Ed-Zeppelin · « **Reply #65 on:** February 5, 2013, 07:18:02 pm »

Quote from: something awful on February 5, 2013, 06:07:55 pm

Man I just can't get excited for this. What if I'm growing out of video games?

Wait until nearer the time!

I had this with the PS3 due to price and other bits but caved eventually when the games were revealed and ended up getting day one! I'm a bit more interested this time.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #66 on:** February 5, 2013, 09:25:13 pm »

Whilst I am prone to bouts of fanboyism, I'll simply buy the console that's the best. Hopefully multi-platform releases aren't often worse like on current gen hardware. We need two new consoles and some new IPs to get excited about.

N-Red · « **Reply #67 on:** February 5, 2013, 10:20:34 pm »

Quote from: DanFromMars on February 5, 2013, 06:00:19 pm

Best they can be are a mid spec pc mate, don't believe the rumours of them sticking high spec stuff in it. the current Wii U GPU is not even a ATI 5770 and you can have one of them for peanuts. Sony went (sort of)high end with the Ps3 and it was a disaster, $600 launch and only started selling when they dropped the price and were making losses on each console. No way they're going to go that path again. I expect a moderate tech improvement over the Ps3 which is already quite decent and maybe games coming out in proper 1080p.

We'll see when they announce it in a few weeks anyway. I expect it'll be things like better cloud based stuff and more media integration than pushing full on with graphical/hardware improvements.

Think it goes to show that if developers made more use of high end PC hardware we could have some amazing games.

Still looking forward to seeing what the next consoles can do though. 7 or 8 years is far to long for the current gen, even if there's still some decent games coming out.

Still hope its not all about the graphics, hopefully the increase in power would lead to more complex /engaging game worlds and game-play mechanics.

koppitekop11 · « **Reply #68 on:** February 7, 2013, 05:07:57 pm »

Not looked into much details about the PS4 so not sure if this is new, either way I must admit I was expecting a much bigger price tag. Quite a nice surprise really

PlayStation 4 to cost £270 at launch, use Gaikai cloud tech?

Sony's PlayStation 4 will reportedly retail at 40,000 Yen when it launches in Japan.

Based on current exchange rates, the console would sell for $428 in North America and approximately £270 in the UK. In comparison, the PS3 launched at 60,000 Yen in Japan, $599 in North America and £425 in the UK.

A report in major Japanese newspaper the Asahi Shimbun (via The Verge) suggests that the console will indeed be announced on February 20, and will launch later this year in Japan and North America.

No mention was made of the European release date, however, suggesting that recent reports of a 2014 launch may be accurate.

It is believed that the console's new controller will feature a touch pad, while another report in the Nikkei business daily says that the console will use cloud technology provided by Gaikai.

It was recently claimed that Sony's next console will feature 4K resolution support in line with a rumoured new range of Sony TVs.

Additional hardware details were leaked last year, while EA's Frank Gibeau revealed that he had seen both the PS4 and new Xbox, and suggested that the consoles would introduce gaming to a further billion people.

Potential next-generation games include Star Wars 1313, Watch Dogs and Mass Effect 4.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a456978/playstation-4-to-cost-gbp270-at-launch-use-gaikai-cloud-tech.html

Kashinoda · « **Reply #69 on:** February 7, 2013, 05:39:13 pm »

Not sure how reliable the initial source is for that information. Wouldn't be surprised if they come in at a low price point (i.e. £300), but can't understand why they wouldn't go for a world wide release?

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #70 on:** February 7, 2013, 05:46:37 pm »

They never did worldwide with ps3 kashinoda.

EU always gets shafted on release dates. I can't see the the ps4 retailing for under 300. More like 350 I reckon. Gaikai was always a given considering they bought it.

N-Red · « **Reply #71 on:** February 7, 2013, 05:57:17 pm »

They never sell their stuff at the direct exchange rate price, they will undoubtedly mark the price up, at a guess somewhere between £320-400.

iSmiff · « **Reply #72 on:** February 7, 2013, 08:03:54 pm »

$400=£400

Kashinoda · « **Reply #73 on:** February 7, 2013, 08:30:27 pm »

Quote from: Upinsmoke on February 7, 2013, 05:46:37 pm

They never did worldwide with ps3 kashinoda.

EU always gets shafted on release dates. I can't see the the ps4 retailing for under 300. More like 350 I reckon. Gaikai was always a given considering they bought it.

Ah, I seem to remember it being a simultaneous release but reading Wikipedia it seems they cancelled the EU release last minute

Still, without strong EU sales the PS3 would be no where, I hope Sony doesn't take that for granted. The 360 nearly doubles PS3 sales in the states, the rest of the world sales bring both consoles completely even. Sony is probably going to push hard early on in America this time round.

SamAteTheRedAcid · « **Reply #74 on:** February 7, 2013, 09:00:30 pm »

It's Japan where Sony hammer Xbox, there was a great article on euro gamer about it recently.

Xbox has massive advantage stateside, an Europe they're fairly even I would have thought.

Kashinoda · « **Reply #75 on:** February 7, 2013, 09:38:38 pm »

Quote from: SamAteTheRedAcid on February 7, 2013, 09:00:30 pm

It's Japan where Sony hammer Xbox, there was a great article on euro gamer about it recently.

Xbox has massive advantage stateside, an Europe they're fairly even I would have thought.

Only reason why I mention strong EU sales is because the Xbox was never going to be popular in Japan.

PS3 has more sales in every part of the world except for North America, I think a lot of that was to do with the 360 coming out a full year before.

360:
America - 42.25 Million
Europe - 23.03 Million
Japan - 1.63 Million
Rest of The World - 7.34 Million

Total: 74.25

PS3:
America - 25.97 Million
Europe - 28.51 Million
Japan - 9.02
Rest of The World - 9.12 Million

Total: 72.62

Malaysian Kopite · « **Reply #76 on:** February 8, 2013, 07:35:39 am »

Hope its backward compatible to the PS2.

Paul-LFC · « **Reply #77 on:** February 8, 2013, 09:32:21 am »

Quote from: koppitekop11 on February 7, 2013, 05:07:57 pm

Not looked into much details about the PS4 so not sure if this is new, either way I must admit I was expecting a much bigger price tag. Quite a nice surprise really

PlayStation 4 to cost £270 at launch, use Gaikai cloud tech?

I'll be very surprised if it launches at £270, pleasantly surprised but I'm expecting closer to £350. Even the Wii U was more expensive than £270 for the "premium" version and the PS4's rumoured specs make it much more powerful.

Walshy nMe® · « **Reply #78 on:** February 8, 2013, 10:26:05 am »

Quote from: iSmiff on February 7, 2013, 08:03:54 pm

$400=£400

Yup.

Plus, if we are supposedly charged £400 - then you won't get one cheaper than £499 as everyone will be selling it as a "move + 2 games" bundle minimum.

Walshy nMe® · « **Reply #79 on:** February 8, 2013, 10:27:24 am »

I hope it's backwards compatible to my SNES. <3