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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2012, 08:56:08 am »
I'd imagine the worst thing would be having a criminal record hanging around your neck for years.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2012, 09:13:31 am »
I shouldn't laugh but SHF's initial post is one of the best I have read in a long time on here.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2012, 09:19:26 am »
So homeless people should just go beat the shit out of a copper and turn himself in?

you have just solved a massive social problem ;D
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2012, 09:21:59 am »
If you do get locked up, please use your allotted internet-time to post updates about your day-to-day life.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2012, 09:25:46 am »

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2012, 09:45:12 am »
If you do get locked up, please use your allotted internet-time to post updates about your day-to-day life.

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not a bad idea.Might help to stop other youngsters "ruining" their lives.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2012, 10:21:35 am »
Oh and never plead guilty, dont care what evidence they have got, they got to prove it.

I REALLY hope you're joking, as that is awful general advice! I've seen a number of cases (experience working for both prosecuting and defending counsel in criminal trials in my short legal career) where defendants determindly plead not guilty, either through their own volition or some terrible advice, despite overwhelming evidence against them. There was one heroin/cocaine importation trial I witnessed where the accuseds' excuse for driving all the way accross Europe and back to pick up drugs, and hiding them in the wheel arch of their car, was that they had gone 'to visit prostitutes' overseas, left their car in a street for two days, and had no idea how the drugs got there. It was such obvious bollocks, but they stuck to it.

Had they been open from the off, when the drugs were found? Probably a 7-8 year sentence. Had they been open and honest after their first meeting with a lawyer, in the early stages of evidence gathering, when they still looked 99% guilty? 10 year sentence maybe.

They got 14 years each. If they were innocent, I have enormous symapthy. But they weren't, and it cost them probably 2-3 years of their lives. I know what you mean - putting the police to proof must statiscally increase your chances of being found not guilty. But you have to be realistic about your chances...

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2012, 10:22:55 am »
not a bad idea.Might help to stop other youngsters "ruining" their lives.
Yes I can imagine how it goes.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2012, 10:29:15 am »
Make friends with a guy who works in McNasty's and endear yourself to the other inmates by selling them burgers and fries at a discounted rate. Also a nice funny name wouldn't go asmiss, like Cheeseburger Yasar. Oh, and join your prisons American Football team.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2012, 10:42:51 am »
As Avon says, you only do two days: the day you get in, and the day you get out.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2012, 11:17:49 am »
i'd actually prefer my hard earned tax money went towards an X Box rather than a Playstation for inmates

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2012, 11:27:34 am »
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2012, 12:15:32 pm »

Went to Prison 5 days a week for 3 years.. luckily i had keys to get out at the end of each day  ;D

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2012, 12:27:08 pm »
"Alotted internet time" just reminds me of the South Park where the internet runs out and Randy is trying to find as much porn as he can

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2012, 01:19:55 pm »
Yep. Rolled a couple of doubles and got straight back into the game.

Brilliant ;D

OP should stay safe. I love how all the ex-cons in the thread all say that the 'bending over in the shower thing' is an urban myth. Like they'd tell us if they'd been bummed all the way to their release day  ;)

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2012, 01:21:18 pm »
I was in a cell with some bloke who had just murdered his Mum and Dad and tbf was a lovely guy.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2012, 01:29:38 pm »
OP should stay safe. I love how all the ex-cons in the thread all say that the 'bending over in the shower thing' is an urban myth. Like they'd tell us if they'd been bummed all the way to their release day  ;)

Amir's just about to go on an armed robbing spree just in case.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2012, 02:43:29 pm »
I REALLY hope you're joking, as that is awful general advice! I've seen a number of cases (experience working for both prosecuting and defending counsel in criminal trials in my short legal career) where defendants determindly plead not guilty, either through their own volition or some terrible advice, despite overwhelming evidence against them. There was one heroin/cocaine importation trial I witnessed where the accuseds' excuse for driving all the way accross Europe and back to pick up drugs, and hiding them in the wheel arch of their car, was that they had gone 'to visit prostitutes' overseas, left their car in a street for two days, and had no idea how the drugs got there. It was such obvious bollocks, but they stuck to it.

Had they been open from the off, when the drugs were found? Probably a 7-8 year sentence. Had they been open and honest after their first meeting with a lawyer, in the early stages of evidence gathering, when they still looked 99% guilty? 10 year sentence maybe.

They got 14 years each. If they were innocent, I have enormous symapthy. But they weren't, and it cost them probably 2-3 years of their lives. I know what you mean - putting the police to proof must statiscally increase your chances of being found not guilty. But you have to be realistic about your chances...

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #58 on: November 20, 2012, 03:10:32 pm »
mouth follows the Shaggy vs Pop Music defence (1990)

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #59 on: November 20, 2012, 03:28:42 pm »
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2012, 04:53:35 pm »
not a bad idea.Might help to stop other youngsters "ruining" their lives.

A few years ago someone gave me a link to a forum where a member had just disappeared randomly one day. Years later he eventually came back and let everyone know he was in prison for armed robbery. He ended up writing a massive detail of his time in there after he was asked loads of questions. Ever since I've read it I've been fucking terrified of ever going to prison. I tried to find the link to show the OP but couldn't.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2012, 04:57:43 pm »
playstations? that's a bit shit like... you'd think they'd at least have ps2s  by now.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2012, 04:57:46 pm »
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2012, 05:00:36 pm »
A few years ago someone gave me a link to a forum where a member had just disappeared randomly one day. Years later he eventually came back and let everyone know he was in prison for armed robbery. He ended up writing a massive detail of his time in there after he was asked loads of questions. Ever since I've read it I've been fucking terrified of ever going to prison. I tried to find the link to show the OP but couldn't.
and yes I was being serious by the way.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2012, 05:07:30 pm »
That is a fucking disgrace. Where exactly is the punishment for the crime in having access to internet and computer games?

I'd like to see you try it then pal if it's so fucking easy.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2012, 05:07:58 pm »
I doubt you'll go to prison mate. My mate's brother got caught with 1/2 a bar of coke and a set of scales in his van. Like yourself, he pleaded guilty but unlike yourself he'd had plenty of run ins with the police before. He got tagged and had to do community service on sundays, which pretty much involved sanding chairs.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2012, 05:27:24 pm »
A few years ago someone gave me a link to a forum where a member had just disappeared randomly one day. Years later he eventually came back and let everyone know he was in prison for armed robbery. He ended up writing a massive detail of his time in there after he was asked loads of questions. Ever since I've read it I've been fucking terrified of ever going to prison. I tried to find the link to show the OP but couldn't.

Sounds interesting, I'd like to read it if you do manage to find it.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2012, 05:29:01 pm »
I got caught with a sizeable amount of MDMA at the beginning of this year and am due in crown court at the end of the month charged with intent to supply. I've got nothing on my criminal record in terms of previous, but it was about 80 grams or so, which means I've about a 50/50 chance of going to prison for about 9-18 months.

I've never been to prison before and the little knowledge I have of the inside is gleaned from Hollywood movies and the like. I was wondering if anyone here does have any experience of what it's like inside? I'm fairly personable and have an easy time making friends with a wide array of people, but I'm also a bit of a wet blanket to be honest! I hate violence and I'm not particularly, um, "street" innit (ahem).

Any advice for a slightly frightened humble Pakistani boy would be warmly recieved!

I got 16 months mate for a very similar offence. Hopefully it doesn't come to it mate. The fact you are on here now is good as clearly you've got bail, you'd already be inside had they remanded you.

Not sure where you are, but you generally move to a local jail for a couple of weeks (worse if its around Christmas, I ended up staying there for a month) and then you will likely move down to a category C where dependant on the jail (they differ) you will get more 'freedoms'.

Category B's are generally the local jails. I shared a four man cell with 3 Romanian guys I couldn't understand which was incredibly frustrating over Christmas away from my family and you share one shitter between yourselves.  I spent about 23 hours a day locked in my cell, but you were allowed out for association to make a phone call, or go outside and stuff for an hour or two, and also could get out for 10-20 minutes to get your food during the day. The guys that have been there longer, (generally because they misbehave in the lower category jails and get sent back) have education and stuff but you likely won't be there long enough to get onto that stuff so you'll just stay in your cell.

My biggest advice would be to take money with you into court (not an excessive amount as they'll only link it to your offence and take it off you) but something like £20-50. You'll be able to put this onto your canteen sheet which is what you'll order phone credit, stamps, envelopes, coffee, other food stuffs etc from. Once a week you submit the canteen sheet and then a week later you receive all the stuff through. As a prisoner you are either on Basic, Standard, or Enhanced. You'll be on standard which is I think £15.50 you are allowed to spend per week. Basic is for prisoners who behave badly and is £5.50 and Enhanced is after 6-7 weeks or so if you behave well and is £25.50.

If you are crap with phone numbers, take a bit of paper into court with you that has names, addresses and phone numbers of people you might want to contact because you'll regret it afterwards. My solicitor told me I probably would get a suspended sentence and I went in without this sort of crucial information, which makes the first few days a little more depressing. You get a letter when you first get in, and I found it quite comforting writing one home straight away in order to get everything off my chest.

Don't worry about being in for drugs. You'll be fine on that sort of offence. If you were in for anything sexual related etc then you'd be up for a lot more horrible time. I've seen screws openly tell prisoners about other prisoners offences. While clearly they did a terrible wrong, I don't think that's right either

Anyway, that's Category B's. After a while you will move to a category C. In my category C we had dorms. I couldn't leave my corridor, but I could move between cells, if I wanted to play Chess with someone in a different cell I could. If you strike up a friendship with someone there, you can request to be moved into their cell at some point. Generally the screws like it if you get along with your cell mates as it makes it easier for them to run the wing. I was fortunate enough to be moved into a cell with two people of a similar age, and I remained there until I left. I arrived after they were there, and left before them.

I wasn't in long enough to move to a category D and I doubt you will either, but they come with more freedoms.

Erm, there is quite a lot to cover and it really depends on how much you need to know. Visits are often every couple weeks, and you'll need to send visitor order out. You can do courses and stuff inside.

Playstations and the like are only for prisoners who a) behave themselves and are enhanced and b) save up money through their canteen sheet and purchase it out the catalogue. For those reasons, seeing as you'll have a relatively short sentence, you won't be able to get one- but you may encounter someone who has got one and get to play. We used to do a Pro Evo tournament on a Saturday with 16 of us on the wing to waste time- before watching MOTD later on.

Oh yeah, that's a good tip, try and avoid the results on a Satdee and MOTD becomes a little more exciting. I devised a game with my cell mates where we would predict the scores and we had a league table running in our cell.

Overall, there will be lots of mood swings I found. While people may be aghast at how easy it is, the feeling of limbo of being stuck wasting your time not being able to do things, while other people (friends/girlfriends) move on with their lifes is difficult. A few people I knew left the country while I was in and I couldn't say goodbye properly. Christmas away from my family was particularly bad, especially watching adverts on BBC like "everyone's home for Christmas" and being stuck in a cell with people I couldn't understand I felt very lonely and sad over that time (I deserved it I guess) but it still wasn't pleasant.  Having the chance to play a playstation on a Saturday certainly didn't make me feel any better about my situation, and I had zero access to the internet. In regards to the debate about 'having it easy' - it depends on your view of prison. If you give prisoners absolutely no reward for good behaviour, the carrot approach etc, how will they change their mentality over time? Equally, if there is little to do with themselves, I've seen first hand how quickly frustrations can turn to violence etc.

“Too often imprisonment is thought of as the process by which magistrates and judges pluck out alien characters from our society and segregate them for the benefit of the rest of us. In reality prisoners are part of our society. They come from it and they will return to it” (Flynn, 1998:10)

There were good parts, I met a mate of mine who had been on the run just after Christmas, who because I had no canteen money or phone numbers, sorted me out coffee, writing paper, envelopes, stamps etc which I was appreciative of. Visits were particularly enjoyable, humbling to know that friends and family would take such time out of their day, to come and see you in a prison far away from home despite what you'd done or how much you deserved it. Although I had one visit where my mates were to come for the 1st time and they didn't make it in time, so that was pretty upsetting that day, after looking forward to it all week, going back to my cell knowing I'd have to wait another fortnight to see them.

Although I don't think going to prison necessarily makes someone a bad person and I don't think I am a bad person, I made some grave errors and have corrected them (I managed to get into a good uni afterwards with an interview demonstrating to them how much I wanted to change) and am moving forwards with my life having come through it.

If you need any help or assistance or I haven't covered anything, just ask mate. You'll know you've let yourself down by doing what you've done, I did too, but it's happened now, and the best thing to do is to deal with it as big as you can. In some ways I am glad I went as I think it made me into more of a man, and helped me to value my life a lot more.

Like someone said, I doubt you'll get a custodial sentence, especially if it's a first offence, but I remember being very worried myself about what might happen, so while lengthy I hope everything I've written helps, feel free to PM me mate.

Edit: Actually, after my brother read this post and PM'd me, we both agree you are right about having a 50-50 chance of jail. So I wouldn't go in expecting to walk out, but if you do, treat it as a bonus. So make SURE you pack a bag. Put smokes there if you smoke, I'd recommend rolling baccy as it lasts longer, nothing excessive, perhaps two ounces, some of your own clothes, trackie bottoms and that. Some jails allow your own bedding, some don't.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2012, 06:06:32 pm »
^ great post that

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2012, 06:15:39 pm »
^ great post that

Yup thanks for sharing Hij.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #71 on: November 20, 2012, 06:16:57 pm »
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #72 on: November 20, 2012, 06:32:57 pm »
Great post Hij
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #73 on: November 20, 2012, 07:04:55 pm »
My brother got sent away for gbh. Recently got out. Worst bit is being locked up 23 hours a day and some of the people in there are genuinely thick as fuck and think its a holiday camp, some actively seeking to return as soon as they get out. Not all but some. Hopefully if you share a cell it's not one of the thick c*nts or the bag heads who are 'weening' off smack. You will probably get moved around prisons to a lower cat prison. Each time you get put on suicide watch and are monitored for a week I think it is and when locked up at this time have nothing to pass the time but your thoughts and sleep. If you keep your head down you'll be sound as unlike what most believe a lot of people in there keep their heads down and just want to do the time. It's basically like in the street. Keep your head down and you likely won't be bothered, you might run into a dickhead and there's more of them but normally on a short stint like you'd get no one would be arsed enough to bother you.

And make sure you get your visits sorted as they'll help you out a lot. Itll make you realise who your mates are aswell. few of my brothers have been fucked off. Once you reach half way it gets easier as its a big milestone.

Oh and if you get stuff like can of coke you'll think its like champagne. And don't get anything off anyone. Some prisoners can get you in debt to them for fuckin kit Kats and stupid shit. Better off not bothering with any of it.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #74 on: November 20, 2012, 07:32:42 pm »
Good insight that Hij
I went to juvie when I was younger for drugs and GBH and its a case of how well you cope with being endlessly bored shitless, people who are a bit hypo and are used to being on the move struggle more and the lazy fuckers (like me) cope a LITTLE bit better.
Remember when you come out make a promise to yourself like I did

Don't get caught next time ;)

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2012, 07:40:43 pm »
Don't get caught next time ;)

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #76 on: November 20, 2012, 07:48:52 pm »
@HIJ

Fantastic, insightful piece of work mate.
I really enjoyed reading it, it's a shame it came about in the way it did.

Lot's of misguided, mis-informed people about, hope your post has set the record straight on various issues.

Well in mate.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #77 on: November 20, 2012, 07:59:16 pm »
I echo the sentiments of the majority over here and thank you HIJ for that piece.

It was a heartening read and a I hope you are doing well at present.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #78 on: November 20, 2012, 09:38:00 pm »
Hij, that's a heck of post, one of the most interesting things I've read on RAWK I think. I don't know what my missus will say though if she finds out I'm consorting with (reformed) criminals every night.

As Shady said, keep your nose clean. ;D

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Re: Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #79 on: November 20, 2012, 09:43:05 pm »
Hij, that's a heck of post, one of the most interesting things I've read on RAWK I think. I don't know what my missus will say though if she finds out I'm consorting with (reformed) criminals every night.

As Shady said, keep your nose clean. ;D
to be fair I didn't say keep his nose clean , I just said don't get caught :D