Topic: Never mind 'Stop the Boats' - STOP THE TORIES

[PaulF]

You're only guaranteed up to 75 k per account, I think.  Need to have two accounts for 100 k.

Is probably trust a huge US bank over the UK government right now

[Red Beret]

The biggest lead since polling started in 2001.

Is that just for YouGov?  I remember Labour having 20 point leads back in the 90s.

[Libertine]

Yougov

Meh, any other leader would be 20 points ahead.....


There's another 20% for the other progressive parties too in that poll. Maybe there's hope for the UK yet.

[Elmo!]

Is that just for YouGov?  I remember Labour having 20 point leads back in the 90s.

Just Yougov

[Nobby Reserve]

Don’t live in Northern Ireland ha ha

Is that a bit of general life advice?

[TepidT2O]

Just Yougov

There was a poll earlier today showing a similar solid double figures lead to be fair

Found it

LAB: 44% (+2)
CON: 31% (-1)
LDM: 11% (-1)
GRN: 6% (+1)
SNP: 4% (=)
REF: 2% (-1)

Via @RedfieldWilton, On 25 September,
Changes w/ 21 September.

[killer-heels]

Ha, the Tories are fucked.

[Red Beret]

Just Yougov

Thanks.

Wonder where the Tories go from here?  Seems impossible to turn things around at this point. Even if they axed Truss tomorrow and got Sunak in, can he really recover enough lost ground in less than three years to make a fight of it? 

The Tories will have been in power for 15 years by then, having presided over austerity, Brexit, a massive economic collapse, pandemic, cost of living crisis, ballooning inflation, rising interest rates, a mortgage crash and killing The Queen. Surely the British public will have had enough of them by then??

EDIT: not to mention the sleaze, corruption, parties, and almost the entire government resigning because Bozo wouldn't budge. Fuck me, who would want more? Who could look at them at that point and say, "Yep, they're the lot I want to continue running the country."

[TepidT2O]

Daily Express headline

Don’t Panic!

(We have a plan to tackle debt)

I mean, they’ve gone full corporal Jones. You never go full corporal Jones

[spen71]

Kwasi-modo economics

[TSC]

Need any further reasons to get this mob out?

https://www.football.co.uk/news/documents-reveal-tory-ministers-push-to-smooth-saudi-newc/764315/

https://beta.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/saudi-arabia-newcastle-united-takeover-gerry-grimstone/

https://economic-times.co.uk/news/how-tory-minister-aided-saudi-takeover-of-newcastle-united/

[cornishscouser92]

yougov
LAB: 45% (+3)
CON: 28% (-4)
LDEM: 9% (-1)
GRN: 7% (-)

Lab Majority 184

Lab 417
Tory 145 hahahahahaha
LD 15
SNP 51

Notable Tories to lose their seat
IDS
Grayling
Raab
Jacob Rees Mogg
Andrew Bridgen
Ben Bradley
Rob Jenrick
Jonny Mercer
Penny Mordaunt
Jon Gullis
Esther Mc Vey
Grant Shapps
Brendan Clarke-Smith

[TepidT2O]

The dire pound borrowing rates have set a run on gilt rates accords the world


See, we still have influence… we’ve fucked everyone now

[Bobsackamano]

yougov
LAB: 45% (+3)
CON: 28% (-4)
LDEM: 9% (-1)
GRN: 7% (-)

Lab Majority 184

Lab 417
Tory 145 hahahahahaha
LD 15
SNP 51

Notable Tories to lose their seat
IDS
Grayling
Raab
Jacob Rees Mogg
Andrew Bridgen
Ben Bradley
Rob Jenrick
Jonny Mercer
Penny Mordaunt
Jon Gullis
Esther Mc Vey
Grant Shapps
Brendan Clarke-Smith

The poll was done between 23rd and 25th so that lead is before the utter shitshow of today. They are fucking toast.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

The dire pound borrowing rates have set a run on gilt rates accords the world


See, we still have influence… we’ve fucked everyone now

Great Britain...........what the fuck exactly is "Great" about it?

[west_london_red]

yougov
LAB: 45% (+3)
CON: 28% (-4)
LDEM: 9% (-1)
GRN: 7% (-)

Lab Majority 184

Lab 417
Tory 145 hahahahahaha
LD 15
SNP 51

Notable Tories to lose their seat
IDS
Grayling
Raab
Jacob Rees Mogg
Andrew Bridgen
Ben Bradley
Rob Jenrick
Jonny Mercer
Penny Mordaunt
Jon Gullis
Esther Mc Vey
Grant Shapps
Brendan Clarke-Smith

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson only have a majority of about 5000 so that tub of lard will be out on his arse too

[Wabaloolah]

Black Wednesday, a failing South American economy battling high inflation and a crashing currency, it’s not a good look. The Tories like to remind people of when Labour had to go ‘cap in hand’ to the IMF in the 1970’s and might now be getting a taste of their own medicine.

The financial crisis that the Labour government of 1974 had to face was a direct result of the economic mismanagement of the 70-74 Heath government and in no small part of the 1972 Barber budget

[Wabaloolah]

yougov
LAB: 45% (+3)
CON: 28% (-4)
LDEM: 9% (-1)
GRN: 7% (-)

Lab Majority 184

Lab 417
Tory 145 hahahahahaha
LD 15
SNP 51

Notable Tories to lose their seat
IDS
Grayling
Raab
Jacob Rees Mogg
Andrew Bridgen
Ben Bradley
Rob Jenrick
Jonny Mercer
Penny Mordaunt
Jon Gullis
Esther Mc Vey
Grant Shapps
Brendan Clarke-Smith

if the Tories went down to 145 seats that would be outstanding, they would take years to recover, if ever, the downside though would be a lack of electoral reform which would mean they might come back in the future. I want them totally destroyed

[Wabaloolah]

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson only have a majority of about 5000 so that tub of lard will be out on his arse too

that fat fucker is a gonna

[TepidT2O]

Great Britain...........what the fuck exactly is "Great" about it?

it’s short for “Greater” to distinguish it firm the other Britain… Brittany

[TepidT2O]

Still, when the interest rate rises kick in, I’m sure all will start to turn in their favour

[Byrnee]

Still, when the interest rate rises kick in, I’m sure all will start to turn in their favour

Not when fixed rate mortgages end it won't.

I take absolutely no pleasure in this, people's lives will be ruined because they voted Tory. They voted Brexit. Again and again they were warned.

But the issue is, that people are told by the Mail, the Sun, the Express, the Telegraph, let alone the Facebook and other online media...

Let's just hope this is the beginning of the end of them. That a generation remind their children never to vote Tory. That the damage isn't too catastrophic for Labour to turn around.

[AndyMuller]

Those polls are all well and good but what about Keith?

[oldfordie]

if the Tories went down to 145 seats that would be outstanding, they would take years to recover, if ever, the downside though would be a lack of electoral reform which would mean they might come back in the future. I want them totally destroyed

Got to hope it happens, I want the next set of Torys to go into the following election asking the public to forgive them for all the lies and sleaze.
I want that image to haunt them for decades. it will only happen if the public turn on them.

[Statto Red]

I believe traders are now calling Truss, Daggers, as in Dagenham, which is 2 stops past Barking for those of you who know your London Underground.

[TSC]

Meanwhile over in the land of Truss

https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1574476937015304192?cxt=HHwWgIC9ndWb1dkrAAAA

[TepidT2O]

Not when fixed rate mortgages end it won't.

I take absolutely no pleasure in this, people's lives will be ruined because they voted Tory. They voted Brexit. Again and again they were warned.

But the issue is, that people are told by the Mail, the Sun, the Express, the Telegraph, let alone the Facebook and other online media...

Let's just hope this is the beginning of the end of them. That a generation remind their children never to vote Tory. That the damage isn't too catastrophic for Labour to turn around.

Yes, you missed my irony!

[Clint Eastwood]

Labour feeling refreshingly united at the moment.

[Red Beret]

it’s short for “Greater” to distinguish it firm the other Britain… Brittany

So Brittany is actually Little Britain then?

[TepidT2O]

So Brittany is actually Little Britain then?

Yes, it is!

Anyway, they’ve changed their minds about the Downing Street Chief of staff.  He will now be directly employed rather than being employed by his lobbying company.

So stupid, this was always going to happen.

[Red Beret]

Yes, it is!

Anyway, they’ve changed their minds about the Downing Street Chief of staff.  He will now be directly employed rather than being employed by his lobbying company.

So stupid, this was always going to happen.

Sure he will.

[PaulF]

I do the yougov polls when I have time. Given the other randomly stupid questions they seem to ask I wouldn't read much into them . They seem to ask half their questions about brand awareness.

Incidentally (in case there are Mary Poppins fans here) we are due to see the musical next month. Not sure exactly where in London but won't be too far from the BoE.  The scenes about a run on the bank might be worryingly close to home .

[ianburns252]

I do the yougov polls when I have time. Given the other randomly stupid questions they seem to ask I wouldn't read much into them . They seem to ask half their questions about brand awareness.

Incidentally (in case there are Mary Poppins fans here) we are due to see the musical next month. Not sure exactly where in London but won't be too far from the BoE.  The scenes about a run on the bank might be worryingly close to home .

I work round the corner from BoE and noticed yesterday a police presence that I've not seen before.

I wonder if they are preparing for and expecting protests?

Seems to be a popular location for them - had a number of XR ones last year - so wouldn't be surprised

[Fromola]

Ha, the Tories are fucked.

Feels very much like the mid 90s where the Tories are toast and Labour a government in waiting again. They've completely imploded.

Starmer will inherit a right mess.

[Fromola]

Thanks.

Wonder where the Tories go from here?  Seems impossible to turn things around at this point. Even if they axed Truss tomorrow and got Sunak in, can he really recover enough lost ground in less than three years to make a fight of it? 

The Tories will have been in power for 15 years by then, having presided over austerity, Brexit, a massive economic collapse, pandemic, cost of living crisis, ballooning inflation, rising interest rates, a mortgage crash and killing The Queen. Surely the British public will have had enough of them by then??

EDIT: not to mention the sleaze, corruption, parties, and almost the entire government resigning because Bozo wouldn't budge. Fuck me, who would want more? Who could look at them at that point and say, "Yep, they're the lot I want to continue running the country."

If we had a robust, balanced media they'd have been hounded out years ago. Instead they've been cheered on over a decade through shambles after shambles.

[Qston]

Feels very much like the mid 90s where the Tories are toast and Labour a government in waiting again. They've completely imploded.

Sterner will inherit a right mess.

He almost certainly will. The difference between now and the 90's is that when Blair/Brown took over the economy was actually in pretty good shape. Probably not so much next time around

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If we had a robust, balanced media they'd have been hounded out years ago. Instead they've been cheered on over a decade through shambles after shambles.

It's pathetic. Nobody actually benefits from having them in charge. 'The media' isn't a group of 20 multi-billionaires. I don't get it.

People just love wanking themselves silly over vitriol. They need to hate and feel bigger than other groups of people.

[Fromola]

Labour feeling refreshingly united at the moment.

This has been a real gift to them on conference week.

[ianburns252]

News teams and a bit of a crowd (maybe gathering is more appropriate as the numbers aren't that big to be fair) around BoE today

Could get interesting.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Labour feeling refreshingly united at the moment.

Cos they had Gary Neville at the party conference?