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Formula One - The 2023 Season
voodoo ray:
I thought that was a decent race. as a viewer you just have to ignore verstappen, presume he'll win and watch what goes on behind him.
Darren G:
--- Quote from: voodoo ray on June 4, 2023, 03:04:48 pm ---people always go on about this circuit being a good measure of how good a car is, and if that's true merc can be very pleased.
curious how leclerc has been just a bit shite both yesterday and today too.
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Something was definitely going on with the car in my opinion. Even Brundle was saying that it looked an absolute handful in the race. Idiotic "Leclerc is dogshit" comments aside, you don't go from being on pole and 4/10ths up on your teammate to 6/10ths down and out in Q1 at the same circuit from one season to the next unless there's an issue. Whatever else people may say about Leclerc, anybody who thinks that he doesn't have good one lap (quali) pace is frankly a moron.
In terms of Catalunya being a measure of how good a car is, I don't wish to sound condescending, but I think that you've perhaps got that backwards. It's more that teams know more how their car will perform given their strengths and weaknesses at that particular circuit given the amount of testing done there.
I share your view in the ignoring Verstappen thing, but I do really miss the drama of 2021.
Razor Ruddocks Christmas Booze Binge:
If that was best race of season it's not saying much. I thought it was boring
voodoo ray:
--- Quote from: Darren G on June 4, 2023, 06:21:47 pm ---Something was definitely going on with the car in my opinion. Even Brundle was saying that it looked an absolute handful in the race. Idiotic "Leclerc is dogshit" comments aside, you don't go from being on pole and 4/10ths up on your teammate to 6/10ths down and out in Q1 at the same circuit from one season to the next unless there's an issue. Whatever else people may say about Leclerc, anybody who thinks that he doesn't have good one lap (quali) pace is frankly a moron.
In terms of Catalunya being a measure of how good a car is, I don't wish to sound condescending, but I think that you've perhaps got that backwards. It's more that teams know more how their car will perform given their strengths and weaknesses at that particular circuit given the amount of testing done there.
I share your view in the ignoring Verstappen thing, but I do really miss the drama of 2021.
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nah it's always been thought of as a good test of a car's capabilities. fuck knows if that's still the case, my info there could well be quite a few years old which wouldn't surprise me.
2021 had hamilton and verstappen swapping wins but they weren't exactly racing each other on track every week. it was a dramatic title race without being actually all that dramatic on track, except the ending obviously.
b_joseph:
--- Quote from: voodoo ray on June 4, 2023, 10:57:07 pm ---nah it's always been thought of as a good test of a car's capabilities. fuck knows if that's still the case, my info there could well be quite a few years old which wouldn't surprise me.
2021 had hamilton and verstappen swapping wins but they weren't exactly racing each other on track every week. it was a dramatic title race without being actually all that dramatic on track, except the ending obviously.
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Spain, COTA, Brasil, Saudi, Bahrain, France, Silverstone ( the sprint at least )...thats quite a lot. Doesnt include the dramatics of Monza.
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