Topic: Ancient Apocalypse - steaming pile of horseshit on Netflix

[So… Howard Philips]

it's true though that intelligent life came from another planet - carried on a flaming vessel...

...it was a comet that crashed to the earth containing water and there you go that's the end of all this mythology bullshit

all this conspiracy shite is good for enjoyable throwaway movies - but for serious documentaries? piss off

Are you telling me that “Stargate” (the one with the lad from the ‘Crying Game’) wasn’t a documentary.

[Ed-Zeppelin]

Yep, i read the same book about 30 years ago.  Fingerprints of the Gods i think.

Wow, that takes me back. I enjoyed that as a teenager in the late 90s.

I can’t remember actually buying into any of it but it captured my imagination more in a ‘this would be a good background to a Hollywood movie’ rather than ‘this feels right’.

I saw a summary for this show and it tweaked a similar interest as for teenage me, without making the link to Hancock. As soon as Rogan appeared in the trailer/intro immediately addressing and overlooking the fact that Hancock is widely discredited I removed it from my list. I don’t really have time for that sort of bollocks these days. Have been catching up with Star Wars instead, much more grounded in reality…

[Max_powers]

From the article:

That’s the danger of a show like this. It whispers to the conspiracy theorist in all of us. And Hancock is such a compelling host that he’s bound to create a few more in his wake. Believing that ultra-intelligent creatures helped to build the pyramids is one thing, but where does it end? Believing that election fraud is real? Believing 9/11 was an inside job? Worse? If you were feeling particularly mean-spirited, you could suggest that Netflix knows this, and has gone out of its way to court the conspiracy theorists

That's the problem with this stuff. It normalises conspiracy thinking on a mainstream channel. Of course Netflix can show whatever they want but it's disturbing that they decided to show it nonetheless.

And the same goes for Twitter. Musk can bring back whoever he wants now but the reach of Twitter means right wing, neo-fascist ideas are being promoted in the mainstream. I can leave Twitter of course but that won't stop it having an influence.

Yep this stuff is like a gateway for the conspiracy world. For every vaccine/COVID denier or election denier I meet at least 10 people who believe in Ancient Alien Pyramid theory or that infinite energy/perpetual motion machines exist(and are being surpressed by CIA).

This type of stuff has a thin veneer of legitimacy to user because its put out by Netflix or History channel but is pushing the viewer into believing crazy stuff. Then they start telling everyone about it and no one believes them. This just pushes many of them further down the conspiracy rabbit hole and they start "researching" and hanging out on conspiracy echo chambers.

[kavah]

Stefan Milo is great (makes videos about archaeology, anthropology/human evolution
he uses only academic sources)

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/341Lv8JLLV4&amp;t=3494s" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/341Lv8JLLV4&amp;t=3494s</a>

[Skagger]

Yep this stuff is like a gateway for the conspiracy world. For every vaccine/COVID denier or election denier I meet at least 10 people who believe in Ancient Alien Pyramid theory or that infinite energy/perpetual motion machines exist(and are being surpressed by CIA).

This type of stuff has a thin veneer of legitimacy to user because its put out by Netflix or History channel but is pushing the viewer into believing crazy stuff. Then they start telling everyone about it and no one believes them. This just pushes many of them further down the conspiracy rabbit hole and they start "researching" and hanging out on conspiracy echo chambers.

Lost a good friend down the rabbit hole after he signed up to the streaming service Gaia, started off mostly harmless but became pretty serious once he started ignoring all precautions around covid, as did his partner... a nurse.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

I started watching this and i like it so far. I mean in terms of entertainment and seeing some places around the world, not because of historical accuracy because i think that part is bollocks. I saw a piece of interview where this donkey Graham Hancock says that ancient Egyptians could have lifted the blocks with sound lol

[Alan_X]

The pictures and location filming are ok but he's a a lying shit and a horrible piece of work. He's mates with Randall Carlson (they regularly do Joe Rogan together) and promote bollocks about 'plasmoids', an idea being promoted by Malcolm Bendall (serial scammer). This is a video called the "Plasmoid Unification Model - The Bendall Turbine". If it sounds incomprehensible that's no surprise. Not because it's beyond anormal person's understanding but because it's fifteen minutes of the insane, meaningless gobbledegook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsPirA-JqLQ

Hancock and his mates are grifters. Selling snake oil or selling books about snake oil. They make the world stupider.

[BarryCrocker]

I saw a piece of interview where this donkey Graham Hancock says that ancient Egyptians could have lifted the blocks with sound lol

Not many people know but that's where term rock and roll originated.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

The pictures and location filming are ok but he's a a lying shit and a horrible piece of work. He's mates with Randall Carlson (they regularly do Joe Rogan together) and promote bollocks about 'plasmoids', an idea being promoted by Malcolm Bendall (serial scammer). This is a video called the "Plasmoid Unification Model - The Bendall Turbine". If it sounds incomprehensible that's no surprise. Not because it's beyond anormal person's understanding but because it's fifteen minutes of the insane, meaningless gobbledegook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsPirA-JqLQ

Hancock and his mates are grifters. Selling snake oil or selling books about snake oil. They make the world stupider.

Yeah, what annoys me the most is the amount of support he gets from dumb people. One should know where are the red lines of real history and some entertaining-intrigue-mysterious conspiracy theories. Historians and archeologists spend half of their lives studying and learning. If you want to know real history and archeology you listen to them. When you're sick you go to the doctor, not to some energy healer scammer prick.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Not many people know but that's where term rock and roll originated.

You have to hit the right notes or else the rock won't fit 

[Stockholm Syndrome]

I saw a piece of interview where this donkey Graham Hancock says that ancient Egyptians could have lifted the blocks with sound lol

This just reminds me of a post, which I believe was on here, where the person opens up with "So we all know the pyramids were built by aliens" and then follows up with the fact he heard all this on the Chris Jericho podcast

[Zlen]

Thing that has aleways pissed me off most about shysters like this one is the constant devaluation of effort, skill, knowledge and determination displayed by our ancestors. They'll sooner believe aliens, Atlantis, gods, whofucking ever built the miracles of the ancient world - instead of actually giving credit to those who actually achieved these feats.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I saw this the other day. It was great.

I've joined the flat Earth society, bought a monacle and welcome our Lizard overlords which I'm having around for T and V next Tuesday

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

https://youtube.com/shorts/d0nh6tgIOOA?feature=share

[Ziltoid]

I saw this the other day. It was great.

I've joined the flat Earth society, bought a monacle and welcome our Lizard overlords which I'm having around for T and V next Tuesday

Alright Andy, saw you on TV t'other night

[Nobby Reserve]

I saw this the other day. It was great.

I've joined the flat Earth society, bought a monacle and welcome our Lizard overlords which I'm having around for T and V next Tuesday

You could just have joined one of the religions around the world.

I made the point before, but seriously, what separates this utter bollocks and the grift that accompanies it, from religions?

Nothing at all.

Apart from religion is on a much more vast scale, and is powerful enough to have its fuckwitted adherents run entire countries. Even in supposedly developed and educated nations, its pernicious influence is felt in law-making.

These cocks writing books and making TV shows based on conspiracy bollocks are harmless in comparison.

[Sangria]

You could just have joined one of the religions around the world.

I made the point before, but seriously, what separates this utter bollocks and the grift that accompanies it, from religions?

Nothing at all.

Apart from religion is on a much more vast scale, and is powerful enough to have its fuckwitted adherents run entire countries. Even in supposedly developed and educated nations, its pernicious influence is felt in law-making.

These cocks writing books and making TV shows based on conspiracy bollocks are harmless in comparison.

Religion had a useful role once upon a time in regulating society and contributing to culture/civilisation. Nowadays their most useful purpose is as history and custom, a reminder of what once was. These modern grifts have never had any useful purpose. They were outdated long before they were invented.

[Nobby Reserve]

Religion had a useful role once upon a time in regulating society and contributing to culture/civilisation. Nowadays their most useful purpose is as history and custom, a reminder of what once was. These modern grifts have never had any useful purpose. They were outdated long before they were invented.

 

Religion was used as a way for the powerful to control the masses through fear. Was the catalyst for oppression of personal freedoms. Was (is!) the justification for persecution of certain groups of people, from women to homosexuals to people who believed in different sky fairies. Has been the driver for some of the most savage and deadly wars and imperialst invasions across history.

It's been an abhorrence throughout time.

 

[Sangria]

 

Religion was used as a way for the powerful to control the masses through fear. Was the catalyst for oppression of personal freedoms. Was (is!) the justification for persecution of certain groups of people, from women to homosexuals to people who believed in different sky fairies. Has been the driver for some of the most savage and deadly wars and imperialst invasions across history.

It's been an abhorrence throughout time.

Do you read everything through the prism of 19th and 20th century left wing writings?

[thejbs]

The notion that archaeologists are engaged in some worldwide conspiracy to hide these mythical advanced cultures is hilarious. Archaeologists, and I know a fair few, would absolutely love to discover evidence of an advanced civilisation 6000 years ago. They certainly wouldn’t hide it.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

The notion that archaeologists are engaged in some worldwide conspiracy to hide these mythical advanced cultures is hilarious. Archaeologists, and I know a fair few, would absolutely love to discover evidence of an advanced civilisation 6000 years ago. They certainly wouldn’t hide it.

All the locations/sites in this show are discovered by archeologists - "mainstream" archeologists. Hancock is able to talking shit thanks to them.

[Alan_X]

The notion that archaeologists are engaged in some worldwide conspiracy to hide these mythical advanced cultures is hilarious. Archaeologists, and I know a fair few, would absolutely love to discover evidence of an advanced civilisation 6000 years ago. They certainly wouldn’t hide it.

To paraphrase something I heard on a podcast this week (might have been Rutherford and Fry talking about Ancient Apocalypse). What do they imagine scientists (and archeologists) do all day? Sit around discussing how to maintain the status quo? Divise experiments designed not to show any new results and spend months writing papers that regurgitate exactly the same ideas?

Hancock's lunatic argument would require thousands of archeologists working across the globe to deliberately not uncover anything new.

[afc tukrish]

To paraphrase something I heard on a podcast this week (might have been Rutherford and Fry talking about Ancient Apocalypse). What do they imagine scientists (and archeologists) do all day? Sit around discussing how to maintain the status quo? Divise experiments designed not to show any new results and spend months writing papers that regurgitate exactly the same ideas?

Hancock's lunatic argument would require thousands of archeologists working across the globe to deliberately not uncover anything new.

Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Status Quo...

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

To paraphrase something I heard on a podcast this week (might have been Rutherford and Fry talking about Ancient Apocalypse). What do they imagine scientists (and archeologists) do all day? Sit around discussing how to maintain the status quo? Divise experiments designed not to show any new results and spend months writing papers that regurgitate exactly the same ideas?

Hancock's lunatic argument would require thousands of archeologists working across the globe to deliberately not uncover anything new.

Thick prick could have studied history and archeology all these years, if he's so passionate about it. I wonder why he never did? My guess is that he was afraid that his views would change. Reality would have slapped him in the face and wake him up. As someone who is very interested in "mainstream" archeology, i can say that the real thing isn't very romantic and poetic.

[thejbs]

To paraphrase something I heard on a podcast this week (might have been Rutherford and Fry talking about Ancient Apocalypse). What do they imagine scientists (and archeologists) do all day? Sit around discussing how to maintain the status quo? Divise experiments designed not to show any new results and spend months writing papers that regurgitate exactly the same ideas?

Hancock's lunatic argument would require thousands of archeologists working across the globe to deliberately not uncover anything new.

Precisely. I have a friend who is very well educated and intelligent but believes the moon landings were faked. I’ve tried reasoning that half a million people worked on the Apollo missions in some regard. He finds it plausible that they all kept the secret. As a photographer, I’m professionally qualified to debunk some of the ‘evidence’ such as the lack of stars, but he still clings to that evidence.

I also know two GPs who are covid vaccine sceptics (although they still administered it).

[Alan_X]

Precisely. I have a friend who is very well educated and intelligent but believes the moon landings were faked. I’ve tried reasoning that half a million people worked on the Apollo missions in some regard. He finds it plausible that they all kept the secret. As a photographer, I’m professionally qualified to debunk some of the ‘evidence’ such as the lack of stars, but he still clings to that evidence.

I also know two GPs who are covid vaccine sceptics (although they still administered it).

As an aside - have you got the Apollo photo book? Amazing images.

[24/7]

So, having watched only the trailer for this steaming pule of horseshit, and reading this thread thoroughly, I was delighted to see 'Cunk on Earth' - okay, she's a bit irritating but I remember her well from Charlie Brooker's annual reviews (and later on 'Death to [year]' series).

There are a few facepalm moments but also plenty of genuine laugh-out-aloud moments too. I love how all the SMEs in it appear to be in on the joke and are going with - so it's not an Ali G format.......

Also, it seems like a fabulous fucking pisstake of the steaming pile of horseshit which is also on Netflix.

 

[thejbs]

As an aside - have you got the Apollo photo book? Amazing images.

I have two photo books! One on Apollo 11 and the other on the apollo program. They’re absolutely stunning. And, what’s more, taken by amateurs!