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Struggling with depression
« on: June 12, 2010, 11:52:20 pm »
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Don't know where to start really, have been struggling on and off with depression and anxiety for the last three years. I'm prone to severe panic attacks and have noticed lately I've developed a noticeable twitch in my left hand when feeling anxious of under any stress. This in turn causes me more anxiety as I worry about people seeing this happen and start asking questions.

Over the last 3 months this has gotten progressively worse and I now find myself unable to sleep, barely eating and closing myself off from friends and family, whilst trying to 'act' as if everything is OK, again to avoid questions and been put in a position where I feel even more vunerable.

I'm really at the end of the road now, have tried seeking councelling but find it hard to open myself up even then. Considering committing suicide because of this and am at he stage where I can't see a positive solution to my problems.

Do any of you guys suffer/ have suffered with depression before? Any advice you guy could possibly give me would be a massive help.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 12:26:29 am »
Suffered badly when my mother died - ended up taking Seroxat which was a real fucker to come off due to horrific side effects but I managed to do it. A few years later it was back and I went back on the Seroxat. Luckily I didn't suffer so badly coming off the second time. Both times I decided to come off as I felt better - probably about 8-10 months each time.

Now I am depressed but because of my illness. I have taken low dose anti-depressants but more as a way of pain control. I would honestly suggest going to see your doctor and ask for some anti-depressants. They will give you some control over it while you try and sort yourself out.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 12:32:18 am »
Hi Gaz, good on you for posting this. Realising you need help and doing something to get it is always hard. Can't really give you much advice, apart from saying go and talk to your GP. I know you said you find it difficult to open up about it, but your doctor has seen it before, and they will understand.

Just had a little search and there are a few threads on here concerning similar issues:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=252904.0
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=237281.0
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=235513.0
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=234885.0

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2010, 12:33:33 am »
Suffered badly when my mother died - ended up taking Seroxat which was a real fucker to come off due to horrific side effects but I managed to do it. A few years later it was back and I went back on the Seroxat. Luckily I didn't suffer so badly coming off the second time. Both times I decided to come off as I felt better - probably about 8-10 months each time.

Now I am depressed but because of my illness. I have taken low dose anti-depressants but more as a way of pain control. I would honestly suggest going to see your doctor and ask for some anti-depressants. They will give you some control over it while you try and sort yourself out.
 

Don't be ashamed and don't hide it.

Doctor has prescribed me Citalopram. to help with panic attacks. they seem to be ok but it just means that when i have attacks they're massive now. Think i'll go back and see her on monday, also could i lose my job if signed off long-term with depression? coz thats kinda worrying me as well.

Good to see you are winning your battle mate.

Thanks Jason.
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2010, 12:34:51 am »
Hi Gaz, good on you for posting this. Realising you need help and doing something to get it is always hard. Can't really give you much advice, apart from saying go and talk to your GP. I know you said you find it difficult to open up about it, but your doctor has seen it before, and they will understand.

Just had a little search and there are a few threads on here concerning similar issues:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=252904.0
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=237281.0
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=235513.0
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=234885.0

Take care.

Thanks, will look into those threads too.
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2010, 12:55:19 am »
The fact that you are self-aware and realise what's happening is a great sign, I've been in your position and looking back now, it's only a little bit of a 'positive push' that is needed, e.g. making a new friend or chatting up a girl and pursuing the friendship, it leads on to other stuff.
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2010, 01:10:28 am »
This could be a long thread.  So easy to get bouts of this (I know I have) but it's almost taboo to discuss isn't it.

I've looked after someone with severe clinical depression before and believe me it's an awful state of mind.  Every day was a battle just to convince them it was worth living through to the next day. 

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2010, 01:13:35 am »
The fact that you are self-aware and realise what's happening is a great sign, I've been in your position and looking back now, it's only a little bit of a 'positive push' that is needed, e.g. making a new friend or chatting up a girl and pursuing the friendship, it leads on to other stuff.
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Thanks bud. Its taking tha first step that scares the shite outta me though
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2010, 01:14:20 am »
Thats tough, but take a moment to think theirs people far worse off in third world counties mothers with babies and children starving every day and they still go on despite the struggles, commiting sucide would be such a waste of life, take a look for a minute what is causing this depression and try to slowly overcome it because who knows a year from now things could be great and very different so dont let the depression beat you.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2010, 01:16:11 am »
This could be a long thread.  So easy to get bouts of this (I know I have) but it's almost taboo to discuss isn't it.

I've looked after someone with severe clinical depression before and believe me it's an awful state of mind.  Every day was a battle just to convince them it was worth living through to the next day.

Sympathies to anyone suffering.

Those two sentences sum up my exact feeling mate. Get the impression from people; not you guys obviously!, that because it isn't a 'physical' illness I need to snap out of it/pull myself together as one of my managers at work allued to [she was very careful not to use those words] when i was initially signed off.
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2010, 02:12:35 am »
How long have you been taking the citralopram? I take them but have to take the max dose which is 60mg a day 3 tablets I started on the usual dose of 20mg but didnt feel any better took a long time for them to kick in and if I forget them I have major wobbly days but as a rule they do work I have suffered with severe depression on and off for 5 or so years now, well thats how long I have admitted to myself and others I had a problem but I suffered in silence for many many years prior to that.

I dont have a lot of advice but I am past the suicide stage probably shouldnt add that self harm work wonders for me!

I hope you pull yourself from this dark place  :-*

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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2010, 02:46:52 am »
How long have you been taking the citralopram? I take them but have to take the max dose which is 60mg a day 3 tablets I started on the usual dose of 20mg but didnt feel any better took a long time for them to kick in and if I forget them I have major wobbly days but as a rule they do work I have suffered with severe depression on and off for 5 or so years now, well thats how long I have admitted to myself and others I had a problem but I suffered in silence for many many years prior to that.

I dont have a lot of advice but I am past the suicide stage probably shouldnt add that self harm work wonders for me!

I hope you pull yourself from this dark place  :-*

Hi Lo,

I'm currently taking the 20mg tablet one a day however, I would imagine next time i see my GP it'll be increased. Must admit I find it hard remembering to take it, my GP said just before i go to bed, however having not slept in 6 days pretty hard to determine when bedtime is.
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2010, 03:39:49 am »
Sorry to hear about your problems mate.

I´m not sure what advice to give you really as we´re all different. I suffered from depression and anxiety for years (still do but I have it under control now) all I can say is that even when it seems that everything is shit their is still hope, just take it day by day and things will eventually get better.
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2010, 07:34:01 am »
You're thinking too much, that's the short answer, you have to find things you love doing and do them often.  You'll be amazed how it works.
Panic attacks aren't anything to worry about, they're annoying at best, just understand them and don't fight them, let it do it's worst and you'll soon see how weak it is.
Don't stop doing things as it just makes the mind think that it's safer by avoiding certain situations, so DO see family and friends but don't discuss your anxiety.
But do talk to your Dr abour your depression, he can relieve it, I guarantee you of that, you WILL feel better very soon if you go see him.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2010, 07:47:32 am »
mate if you play football, do that if you don't,  watch football. I'm not being funny but it will 100% cure it.
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2010, 03:52:12 pm »
Those two sentences sum up my exact feeling mate. Get the impression from people; not you guys obviously!, that because it isn't a 'physical' illness I need to snap out of it/pull myself together as one of my managers at work allued to [she was very careful not to use those words] when i was initially signed off.

mental ilnesses are so much worse than physical problems, but thats imposisble for people to understand unless they have been in that position themselves.
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2010, 04:24:11 pm »
Thats tough, but take a moment to think theirs people far worse off in third world counties mothers with babies and children starving every day and they still go on despite the struggles, commiting sucide would be such a waste of life, take a look for a minute what is causing this depression and try to slowly overcome it because who knows a year from now things could be great and very different so dont let the depression beat you.

I know you are only trying to help, but I'm sorry but that's completely irrelevant here to be honest one of the attitudes that is always taken to depression. The only person he needs to be thinking about now is himself and not concerning himself with others unfortunate circumstances, depression isn't always reactive and can be a result of physical changes in hormone levels etc.

Get yourself down the docs and see if you can get a high dose of fluoxetine (prozac)I found it to be better than Citalopram in dealing with anxiety, I suggest you give counselling a go again as it's the real long term solution. I've been through it to(still am) and it's a c*nt, doesn't help that it's mocked and a taboo subject for most.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2010, 05:27:05 pm »
How long you been taking the tablets mate? They take a while to kick in.
If at all possible don't go sick from work, if your not already off that is, let me know and i'll explain why.
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2010, 05:50:27 pm »
I know nothing about all the pills etc, I have never been in that position myself as I am only young I guess. I know it will come eventually, that I will experience times of deep sadness in my life and I can only feel sorry for you and what your going through. Its hard to give anyone advice on this kind of thing as everyone is different.

I have no idea how close you are with your friends and family, obviously some people are very close with their families and others not so because of certain things in life, things are just the way they are. I hope for your sake you have people who love and care about you (friends & family) who you can talk too. I can only imagine that its horrible because of your condition it will be hard to make new friends as you are worried by what you look like with the shakes etc so I guess you will not have much confidence and wouldnt think of going into town or do much socializing,however that might not be your thing, alot of people prefer not to go the pub, into town or whatever you might be interested in doing something else - and if you have i strongly recommend that you do it and focus on it, it could be a hobby or anything just to keep your mind on something.  Those 'friends' you say you ignore - don't. They are called friends for a reason, open up to them - if they are true friends they will listen to you and be there for you... it will help you much more than seeking advice from people over the internet. I have no idea what you are going through and all this may just be a load of shit to you, same old stuff you hear from your doctor or friends but trust me, talk to the people who are closest to you.

It could simply just be one little thing to happen in your life to make things better again. The pills will work eventually it will take time, fight through it.

Theres good people on here, who know what there talking about. Listen to them.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2010, 06:00:28 pm »
The more you hide it/avoid people the worst it will get im afraid!!

My advice to you is seek professional help and interact with your friends and family/loved ones(people who make you feel good/happy) as much as possible.

Also medication/drugs are not greatest "solutions" available.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2010, 08:47:24 am »
I have suffered with depression for as long as I can remember.  Also have a severe problem with alcohol and back on to day 1 (that is for a seperate thread).  Alcohol does call depression so need to get that one sorted.

I have conversations with people and they never seem to understand it.  All I get is "You have a beautiful missus, 2 lovely girls, a house and your own business!!  How can you be depressed???

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"You do not have depression as you are always chatty!!"

The only advice I can get is medical help.  I am back to the docs tomorrow after I have got over the alcohol withdrawls.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2010, 09:44:37 am »
Wow, first off thanks for all your replies, they have helped, even if you don't think so. update, have decided to seek a bt of counselling again. got some problems i need too address, problems I don't think disclosing on a football forum would be advisable. (no i'm not a closet manc!).

Still struggling to shake thses feelings of worthlessness I have, really fucked up the last few years of my life big style.

Spen, I completely understand where you're coming from la, far too fond of the creature, I know it aint the answer but if it helps for a day a night or ten fucking minutesd far easier to reach for the bottle.

A few people have said "Not to quit/take time off work" can i ask why? also work is partly the problem hence me being off. also how long can a body go without sleep? haven't had a wink [of sleep ;)] since the 9th and I think I'm ready for some extras work on a zombie film.
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2010, 10:34:29 am »
For me being at work takes my mind of dwelling to much I guess its used as a escapism but for all its going to be different.

I hope you find some answers soon and find some peace  :-*

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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2010, 11:04:29 am »
Never suffered from depression so can't give you that first person experience but I know what it can do to people. It is an absolute c*nt of an illness (yes, it IS an illness) and you've taken the absolute best step to try and talk about it so well done.

You will feel like not wanting to do anything, not wanting to see anyone, not wanting to work, to play footy, to go see your mates etc. but try and fight it. It's not easy but it's the best possible way of getting over it. It's easier said than done I know but don't let it take your life over. Try and continue as normal a life as possible. I know that can make things difficult with work but do your best without putting your body through something through it can't handle.

Don't feel bad about harping on about it to anyone you know. Don't feel bad about taking up your doctor's time. If you've got a problem, let them know and make sure he/she knows you're really struggling to get to sleep and definitley tell them what you said to us in the first post.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2010, 11:26:48 am »
also how long can a body go without sleep? haven't had a wink [of sleep ;)] since the 9th and I think I'm ready for some extras work on a zombie film.
I think the 'world record' is something like 11 days, under controlled conditions. Don't worry to much about it, if you worry you're less likely to sleep. Just try and lie down for a bit when you feel like it, but don't try and force yourself to sleep - it won't work. Also, sleep deprivation is sometimes used to help with depression - maybe your body is just getting itself some help?
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2010, 11:40:42 am »
My only suggestion, and i admit it does not solve it, but is important, is to continue to eat as well as you can.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2010, 11:44:00 am »
Maximus firstly you need to treat the acute depression you're feeling now. That nearly always involves some form of medication. The medication is not the long term solution but can give you the time to get over the acute feelings your expeirencing now. When you're over this crisis you can address some of the things that are triggering your depression.
 
If you'd just had a heart attack, you wouldn't treat it by changing your diet. You'd go to hospital deal with the acute problem, then when you are on the mend you'd address your diet and exercise. Acute episodes of Depression are no different from acute physical problems. You need to seek out some professional help in the first instance. Maximus I hope everything works out for you, lad.
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2010, 12:44:05 pm »
Wow, first off thanks for all your replies, they have helped, even if you don't think so. update, have decided to seek a bt of counselling again. got some problems i need too address, problems I don't think disclosing on a football forum would be advisable. (no i'm not a closet manc!).

Still struggling to shake thses feelings of worthlessness I have, really fucked up the last few years of my life big style.

Spen, I completely understand where you're coming from la, far too fond of the creature, I know it aint the answer but if it helps for a day a night or ten fucking minutesd far easier to reach for the bottle.

A few people have said "Not to quit/take time off work" can i ask why? also work is partly the problem hence me being off. also how long can a body go without sleep? haven't had a wink [of sleep ;)] since the 9th and I think I'm ready for some extras work on a zombie film.

Maybe if work is the problem you should try to make it your aim to get a new job - i know this will seem almost impossible with anxiety as it is right now, but it's good to have a goal.
Hypnotherapy might be an idea to discuss with your Doc in conjunction with Counselling and drugs - it isn't like the stage hypnotism 'act like a dog' type thing - more teaches you ways to deal with your anxiety by recongising what it is doing to your body.
Anything is worth a try.
I agree with Lo about work being a distraction - sometimes you need something constant to keep you getting out of bed in the morning to keep you on the straight and narrow - i found being at work was my only good time when i was suffering a five years ago. But if work is the problem, then as i said maybe it's worth looking at the goal being to get out of there and into something you love.

Always here to chat - PM me if you need anything - as i am sure anyone on here will tell you - the best thing you can do is keep talking about it, the worst is to bottle it up, we're all here for you.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2010, 01:19:37 pm »
I would also urge you to go see your GP again, get it all off your chest, DO NOT be ashamed Gaz. YOU count, sod what the other people think, tough if they're narrow minded idiots, YOU are the only one that counts.

I've struggled with bouts of anxiety and PTSD and depression over the years. I've had Crohn's since I was 12 (I'm now 38), loads of operations and grim procedures. I found my Nan dead a week before a mojor op then last year I found my Mum in the same situation, luckily she survived but she's now paralyzed and confined to bed. I'm now her main carer and my Dad has had to go into a care home (he has dementia). At Christmas the stress just knocked me off my feet, I was having panic attacks 5, 6 times a day, thought I was going to die all the time. REAL BAD! I developed new weird physical symptoms. My legs would feel like acid had been poured on them, then after a few hours they'd go numb and tingle, lets just say I really freaked out! I've never seen a doctor for my anxiety before but this just pushed me off the edge.

My GP did loads of tests, which we all normal, he said my anxiety had gone through a threshold and become physical. He arranged for me to see a councellor and prescribed citalopram for the anxiety, I ended up not taking it though.

These last 6 months have been an utter nightmare,. I've gone from thinmking I was gonna have a stroke to thinking I had MS or mad cows disease or some other deadly scary disease, I had a very hard time believing it was anxiety. I then became depressed and my moods were all over the place, I'd cry all the time.

After waiting 4 months to see a councellor I finally got an appointment, I've had 7 sessions, each wednesday and I have to say it has worked wonders! Over the last 3 weeks things have really started to improve. Were challenging my anxiety. My councellor has been amazing, he's very pleased with my knowledge of anxiety and how it works, he's validated my reasons for suffering with it and he talks me through the worry and irrational thoughs with reasoning and logic.

I can proudly say I've been panic attack free for almost 2 weeks!

What I've learnt

Don't have too much time to think, keep occupied.
Eat well and exercise, take a multi vitamin and some fish oil if you're appetite is not good.
Get plenty of sleep (the above will help with this) camomile tea and a bath before bed also helps!
Learn to challenge the 'what if's' They can be really damaging and are completely useless.
DO NOT Google symptoms, Dr Google is EVIL!!

And TALK, find someone who understands and will listen, and have a good talk about stuff. This can be a doctor, councellor, friend or family member. Now before my councellor I didn't have anybody to talk to who got what I was going through, my Hubby was fed up of listening to me and we'd end up arguing so I went online. I found a site called anxietyzone and their forum is absolutely amazing (no disrespect to RAWK lol) There are lots of people over there who will gladly help you out with reassurance and advice and they totally 'get' what you are going through!

Honestly Gaz up until a few weeks ago I though my life was over, I didn't want to die but I though it's inevitable soon. I couldn't see anything getting better because I felt so consumed with horrible feelings and I was so scared. I was scared to go out because I thought my legs would collapse on me. The first challenge my councellor gave me was to walk alone to my appointment, it scared the crap out of me but I DID IT! and I've just built on that. For the first time this year I'm starting to feel normal and optimistic again, and I've managed to do it med free, no disrespect to people who need them it's just I wanted to avoid them becuase I already take a shit load of pills for my Crohn's.

Sorry to go on a bit but I wanted to give you some hope, you can feel good again! All the best gaz!

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2010, 01:27:37 pm »
It took me months to realise that I was suffering from depression, almost lost my wife because of it. I went to my GP, explained how I was feeling, and I took the missus along with me so she could give her side. He put me on prozac, which helped for a while, but then I had a relapse. My dose was doubled, and I've been ok since. My point is, don't suffer in silence, go to your doctor now.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2010, 01:32:02 pm »
suffered during divorce and afterwards

went to docs and got some anti depressants

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2010, 07:21:26 pm »
Just two things mate:

1) Whatever you do, don't even consider suicide. Ever again. That's end game, no second chances. As long as you're alive, there's a chance at sorting things out.
2) Physical activity, lots of it. Make hitting 10ks on a jog every two days one of your targets, and most of your sleeping problems will get sorted. In my experience, the human body is not designed to spend a lot of time on a laptop / watching tv / sitting in a vehicle. Which is unfortunately what most of us on here tend to do.

Not every person who sees your hand twitch judges you a weakling because of that. In fact, you'll be surprised how many can relate / understand / empathise. All the best.

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« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2010, 11:37:11 pm »
I won't add to any of the sterling advice so far except to say that anyone I know who ever suffered from depression no longer does. Seriously. Close family and friends, maybe a half dozen of them. All better.

Isn't that a cheery thought?

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2010, 11:58:37 pm »
I have been where you're at Gaz. Trust me, I KNOW that sometimes it feels like nothing's ever gonna improve BUT...it does! It really does, even if it takes TIME. Please, fight like hell! I've suffered from panic attacks for the past year and a half and when getting them.....there's really no way to describe how horrible they are. I know.

I'm still fighting. I'm still on medication. BUT....what ultimately shoved me in the right direction was loads and loads of talks with close friends, my sisters, my family and now recently a therapist.

I never thought I was good enough even though I had people around me trying to stuff me with positive things about me. Ultimately though, and this might sound harsh but it's true, YOU are the only one who can change your life. Your relatives and friends could be a good support but it really is YOU who need to get to a point when you WANT to make changes in your life and be willing to fight like hell to crush any obstacles that get in your way to get to where you would like to be.

God, there is so much I would like to tell you but I'm struggling writing it all in english.

If there is anything I can do, please don't hesitate to PM me. I've been where you're at and I am just one piece of evidence that your life CAN change. It will take time but you can do it. Hang in there.

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And Maximus, I am on citalopram too. At first they can actually make you feel even worse but that should pass in a couple of weeks.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2010, 01:57:27 am »
I'm glad you've got some people here to help.

Someone I love dearly is going through the same thing for about the same amount of time, and I feel him slipping away little by little and it really is crushing. Feel helpless.

For me, when I've had my depression, getting out of the house, being around people helped tremendously. As did being out of doors.  Getting counseling helps also, but I've never gone the meds route, simply because I'm overly sensitive even to over the counter medications.

I wish you well and hope you come out very strong.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2010, 03:07:43 pm »
Doctor has prescribed me Citalopram. to help with panic attacks. they seem to be ok but it just means that when i have attacks they're massive now. Think i'll go back and see her on monday, also could i lose my job if signed off long-term with depression? coz thats kinda worrying me as well.

Good to see you are winning your battle mate.

Thanks Jason.

Im no expert on the subject, however, my now ex-girlfriend and her dad both suffered from severe panic attacks for quite a while without knowing what to do to combat it.

A colleague of my girlfriends (after finding out about the situation during a work night out) suggested acupuncture, which, after considering it for a month or two, she went ahead and tried.

She went every week for a few months and hasnt had a problem with it since. She also subsequently recommended it to her dad and he, similarly, has not suffered any panic attacks since (that I know of at least).

It definitely worked for them, so maybe it could help you too?

Also, like many posters have said, you really need to talk to someone openly and honestly and let them know how you feel. Its nothing to be ashamed of and talking about it will only help, both in terms of eradicating that feeling of hiding it from people as well as getting the help and support you need.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2010, 11:38:38 pm »
Thanks for the replies guys, can anyone shed light on this;

Why is it whenever I feel I've taken a step forward, something or someone knocks me three back.

After disscusing my problems ad nausem with my parents, which was probably one of the hardest things I've ever done. We all agreed it'd be best if I moved home. For a number of reasons ie financially, mentally etc. [took me a long time to decide in all fairness]. So I plucked up the courage told my housemate, who were fantastically supportive and spoke with my landlord who was also great.

Anyway getting my stuff boxed and things organised when i thought I'd ring my folks to let them know how I've been. (hadn't seen them since my birthday last weds) Only to discover that one of them has done a FUCKING u-turn [won't say which one] and doesnt want me home for the following,

1. Where would all the stuff go? You've got loads and so have we! I mean WTF???? how do I answer that

2. What if you don't get any better, we're stuck with you at home then - THERE EXACT words.

3. You're 25 yo now you should be out on your own and shouldnt be back here.

Needless to say I blew a fuse and completely lost it with 'them' said somethings I shouldn't have done but come on how is that a valid list of reasons for not wanting to help your own son.

Feel ashamed and disgusted and lost now, 3/4 through a bottle of JD and other 'helpers' what should I do????
 ??? :'(
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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2010, 11:53:21 pm »
Thanks for the replies guys, can anyone shed light on this;

Why is it whenever I feel I've taken a step forward, something or someone knocks me three back.

After disscusing my problems ad nausem with my parents, which was probably one of the hardest things I've ever done. We all agreed it'd be best if I moved home. For a number of reasons ie financially, mentally etc. [took me a long time to decide in all fairness]. So I plucked up the courage told my housemate, who were fantastically supportive and spoke with my landlord who was also great.

Anyway getting my stuff boxed and things organised when i thought I'd ring my folks to let them know how I've been. (hadn't seen them since my birthday last weds) Only to discover that one of them has done a FUCKING u-turn [won't say which one] and doesnt want me home for the following,

1. Where would all the stuff go? You've got loads and so have we! I mean WTF???? how do I answer that

2. What if you don't get any better, we're stuck with you at home then - THERE EXACT words.

3. You're 25 yo now you should be out on your own and shouldnt be back here.

Needless to say I blew a fuse and completely lost it with 'them' said somethings I shouldn't have done but come on how is that a valid list of reasons for not wanting to help your own son.

Feel ashamed and disgusted and lost now, 3/4 through a bottle of JD and other 'helpers' what should I do????
 ??? :'(

Mate, I really don't understand things like this and I'm real sorry to hear that but stop drinking and call a close mate or someone to talk too about it.

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Re: Struggling with depression.
« Reply #38 on: July 1, 2010, 12:05:35 am »
Thanks for the replies guys, can anyone shed light on this;

Why is it whenever I feel I've taken a step forward, something or someone knocks me three back.

After disscusing my problems ad nausem with my parents, which was probably one of the hardest things I've ever done. We all agreed it'd be best if I moved home. For a number of reasons ie financially, mentally etc. [took me a long time to decide in all fairness]. So I plucked up the courage told my housemate, who were fantastically supportive and spoke with my landlord who was also great.

Anyway getting my stuff boxed and things organised when i thought I'd ring my folks to let them know how I've been. (hadn't seen them since my birthday last weds) Only to discover that one of them has done a FUCKING u-turn [won't say which one] and doesnt want me home for the following,

1. Where would all the stuff go? You've got loads and so have we! I mean WTF???? how do I answer that

2. What if you don't get any better, we're stuck with you at home then - THERE EXACT words.

3. You're 25 yo now you should be out on your own and shouldnt be back here.

Needless to say I blew a fuse and completely lost it with 'them' said somethings I shouldn't have done but come on how is that a valid list of reasons for not wanting to help your own son.

Feel ashamed and disgusted and lost now, 3/4 through a bottle of JD and other 'helpers' what should I do????
 ??? :'(

Just look at what they're doing mate. They're putting up roadblocks and obstacles in the way. It's not bcause they don't want to help you, honestly, you've got to believe that. it's because they're scared and don't know how to help properly. they're scared of fucking up when you need them most.

You don't have to say, but I'll hazard a guess that it's your dad who has done the U-turn. If I'm right, that's probably because he's one of an older generation of "mental illnesses are for weak people" mantra, and also because he has difficulty expressing his feelings in some ways. Maybe what he's really saying is that while he really wants to help, part of him is using the "man up" excuse as a way of him not having to face your difficulties with you because again, he's scared of fucking up.

All I would say is try to apologise for whatever you said that you regret. You're being too hard on yourself by talking about being disgusted and ashamed of yourself. Your mam will be upset but she won't be ashamed and disgusted by you, I promise. And mate, you are so much better than having to use JD and other helpers, so maybe it's time to leave them to one side for the night now, wouldn't you agree?
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Christ mate, that's a tough pill to swallow but you've got to stop the drinking and call a friend to stay with or try and get your old flat back.
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