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On a serious note,.they invade the pitch and assault Viera and Palace players after they had won.
So, what might have happened if they had lost?
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I hope they (Leeds and Burnley) stick together on this and they both get to stay up. It’s only fair isn’t it? Everton fans more than anyone would want the same as we all know ourselves there’s no one fairer than an Evertonian.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Everton are already in the process of writing a heart felt letter with their fans blessing stating they don’t want to take the place of the teams below them who deserve to stay up as that’s not what Evertons aboot. Everton is more than that. Everton is Everton. If you don’t know that, you’re not Everton

That would be in the true Corinthian spirit that Everton Football Club live and breathe (unlike the commercialised money making, professional, trophy winning Liverpool Football Club.

What greater love hath a football club that they lay down and accept relegation on behalf of poor, benighted Leeds or Burnley?

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On a serious note,.they invade the pitch and assault Viera and Palace players after they had won.
So, what might have happened if they had lost?

There would have been a volley of toddlers aimed, indiscriminately, at any player Palace or Everton.

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The Premier League will be bothered, whan this type of behaviour becomes the norm for other clubs, too. The older fans around Europe remember the 80's pretty good. I haven't watched the Everton game last night (I was at some family gathering), but my colleagues at work who have watched the game were disgusted by the scenes at the end. One of them has commented "The hooligans are back at the English stadiums" ...

This is so true.

It's called 'Broken Window Theory.' 

It's a bit like if someone dumps a fridge in the back entry, and it doesn't get shifted quickly, other people are far more inclined to add to the mess with their own rubbish. Same with graffiti on walls. You have a clean wall, but someone tags it. You don't paint it out, so others feel it's ok to also tag the wall. Before you know it, you wall is a total mess. If people see a property with a broken window, if so inclined, they will feel it ok to break other windows in the property. That's why it's wise to address neglect and damage quickly, because it sends a subliminal message, just as leaving it leaves the opposite message.

What happened last night, (and in other recent games with some other clubs, I believe) is basically the shit on the doorstep. It needs addressing strongly and quickly, otherwise it sends all the wrong messages out to the utter boneheads who would relish bringing back the darker days of the game. There were two assaults on Palace staff last night. If left unchecked, this is only going one way, and someone will get seriously injured or even killed.

Also, although it might be seen as being a bit of an over-the-top comment here, but these illegal pitch invasions piss all over the memory of the Hillsborough dead. Fans are treated like human beings in stadiums now because of Hillsborough. Human beings are not now caged like feral hyenas, because of Hillsborough. The actions of these utter morons just give weight to those who will inevitably start saying that football fans cannot be trusted anymore, so need caging once more.

All bias aside, I don't blame them one bit for celebrating. It's obvious that many of them were shitting themselves and have been for a while. It's obvious that many genuinely feared they'd go down, hence the cork flying out of the bottle once they had survived. I'm just not sure that illegal pitch invasions, assaulting the opposition, throwing flares into the Palace fans, then rioting on County Road is the best way to go about it. If they are let off with all this carnage, then football cannot complain when others jump on the bandwagon and take us all back to the 80s.
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On a serious note,.they invade the pitch and assault Viera and Palace players after they had won.
So, what might have happened if they had lost?
I think we already know, don't we.
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There would have been a volley of toddlers aimed, indiscriminately, at any player Palace or Everton.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

A Volley Of Toddlers, isn't that the Jacqueline Susann novel?
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There would have been a volley of toddlers aimed, indiscriminately, at any player Palace or Everton.
If they'd gone down, I'm genuinely convinced they'd have attacked some of their own player too.
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That would be in the true Corinthian spirit that Everton Football Club live and breathe (unlike the commercialised money making, professional, trophy winning Liverpool Football Club.

What greater love hath a football club that they lay down and accept relegation on behalf of poor, benighted Leeds or Burnley?

Genuine question here.

Is there any other club in football that not only frowns upon being successful and winning things, but also celebrates continual abject failure as though it's an anti-trophy in itself?

They seem to loath footballing success, commercial success, being attractive, having a wide, varied and inclusive fanbase.

I just can't think of any other club in the world so closely attached to and embracing of failure, obscurity and insularity.
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That would be in the true Corinthian spirit that Everton Football Club live and breathe (unlike the commercialised money making, professional, trophy winning Liverpool Football Club.

What greater love hath a football club that they lay down and accept relegation on behalf of poor, benighted Leeds or Burnley?
Sometimes I wonder if I could truly be Everton but then I realise if I don’t understand or appreciate what it is to be Everton it means I’m not Everton and never will be.


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I hate posts that include the phrase 'I'd love to be proved wrong' - far too many of them on here and its usually an excuse to be negative or whingy.

But I'm gonna break my own rule for once and say that I really can't see Leeds or Burnley suing the PL over Everton or any court action taking place. For starters isn't there a FIFA rule that clubs cannot take their associations to court; they have to use CAS? And in any case while there may be a few stiff letters and some sabre rattling, when it comes down to it, there'll be no appetite for taking it further and nothing will happen.

But, you know, I'd love to be proved wrong, like ;)
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Genuine question here.

Is there any other club in football that not only frowns upon being successful and winning things, but also celebrates continual abject failure as though it's an anti-trophy in itself?

They seem to loath footballing success, commercial success, being attractive, having a wide, varied and inclusive fanbase.

I just can't think of any other club in the world so closely attached to and embracing of failure, obscurity and insularity.
Success and trophies are redshite behaviour and they will have no part of such things thankyou very much!
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Where's the Hitler on the pitch pic Capon?

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:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

A Volley Of Toddlers, isn't that the Jacqueline Susann novel?

Showing your age there. :)

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Sometimes I wonder if I could truly be Everton but then I realise if I don’t understand or appreciate what it is to be Everton it means I’m not Everton and never will be.

And they call us a cult.  :lmao :lmao :lmao

Honestly, I'm beginning to think David Koresh, Charles Manson and Marshall Applewhite are the real money behind Everton these days.
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So Tory Boy thinks it’s OK for a pitch invasion as long as the fans behave even though encroaching on the playing area without reasonable excuse is a criminal offence.

Same attitude as Johnson’s to the law although in Frank’s defence he wasn’t responsible for actually passing the law.

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Seamus Coleman’s a yard dog an all. Seems to think it’s sound kicking lumps outta players as that shows fighting spirit. Was made up when the ball got taken away from him on the half way line and he’s there with his fat lil arse and tongue  trying to make it back as palace scored.

We’ve got another season of this shit to watch every week whilst we’re competing for trophies. It’s like watching breaking bad then turning over for the auditions for the X factor / BGT were all the deluded dickheads show up singing I’m a Barbie Girl or doing impersonations of David Blunkett.

God bless you Everton. You’re the Joe Pasquale of football, you fucking mess xx

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Leeds + Burnley wrote to PL on May 13 expressing concern that Everton have enjoyed unfair advantage despite racking up three-year losses of £371.8m - the permitted loss is £105m

They need to be seriously putting some pressure on the authorities over this, otherwise it will just get covered up like every thing else.
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Sometimes I wonder if I could truly be Everton but then I realise if I don’t understand or appreciate what it is to be Everton it means I’m not Everton and never will be.

Everton is beyond football. Football is beyond Everton. Born not manufactured. Like fucking eggs laid by hens.
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Where's the Hitler on the pitch pic Capon?
haha there’s a target on me back mate. A ransom. They’re coming for me mate. I’m laying low.

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I hate posts that include the phrase 'I'd love to be proved wrong' - far too many of them on here and its usually an excuse to be negative or whingy.

But I'm gonna break my own rule for once and say that I really can't see Leeds or Burnley suing the PL over Everton or any court action taking place. For starters isn't there a FIFA rule that clubs cannot take their associations to court; they have to use CAS? And in any case while there may be a few stiff letters and some sabre rattling, when it comes down to it, there'll be no appetite for taking it further and nothing will happen.

But, you know, I'd love to be proved wrong, like ;)
Even if it doesn't get off the ground, something that has done is the increasing ill will towards EFC and its appalling fanbase. They are making enemies left, right and centre. Their disgusting antics are opening a lot of eyes.
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And they call us a cult.  :lmao :lmao :lmao

Honestly, I'm beginning to think David Koresh, Charles Manson and Marshall Applewhite are the real money behind Everton these days.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-61519054

Seven men have been arrested over disorder near Goodison Park after Everton's win against Crystal Palace.

A large group threw bricks and bottles at a police car on County Road in Liverpool at about 23:15 BST on Thursday, Merseyside Police said.

Two further police vehicles were damaged before the crowd was dispersed.

Nobody was seriously hurt but Ch Insp Jim Wilde said the "despicable behaviour" meant key vehicles will be off the road while they are repaired.

Five men were arrested on suspicion of being drunk and disorderly in a public place and one was arrested on suspicion of assaulting an officer in the execution of their duty, police said.

They were later de-arrested and will be dealt with at a later date.

A 26-year-old man from Bootle was also arrested on suspicion of violent disorder after two beer bottles were thrown towards officers.

He was taken to a police station in Merseyside and remains in custody.

Ch Insp Wilde said: "We know the vast majority of the community will be appalled to hear that damage was caused to emergency vehicles, while our officers were working to maintain order and keep others safe.

"Two key vehicles were forced to be taken off the road as a result of this despicable behaviour and will now need to be repaired."

Their removal from service had a "clear impact" on officers' ability to attend emergencies, he said.

He urged any witnesses to disorder around County Road to come forward.

Ah so just another regular night for Evertonians.

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Somehow Everton staying up has turned out to be even funnier than Everton going down ;D

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haha there’s a target on me back mate. A ransom. They’re coming for me mate. I’m laying low.

It’s the happiest I’ve ever been

They're Evertonians so I wouldn't worry about it, they'll probably have put it on someone else's back ;D

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Listening to 2nd Captains just now, and an Evertonian journalist was asked about the pitch invasion and the recent trend of civic disorder around football. His response, long story short, was that we should forget that and look at the way Irish fans come over for Liverpool and Man Utd games beaked up to the eyeballs.

So there you go.
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Spot on that is. It's true that a picture can say more than a thousand words
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Everton have got what they want, a moment. And it goes to show that they will take any moment - finally people are saying Evertons name. Podcasts and tv shows haven’t forgotten to mention them for the 9th week in a row.

What a day for the blues!!!!!!
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Listening to 2nd Captains just now, and an Evertonian journalist was asked about the pitch invasion and the recent trend of civic disorder around football. His response, long story short, was that we should forget that and look at the way Irish fans come over for Liverpool and Man Utd games beaked up to the eyeballs.

So there you go.

No mention of the beaked-up Bitters over from Rhyl last night?

No mention of the Everton coaches raided by police and being found full of beak?  https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/police-raid-everton-fan-coaches-15891302
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So Tory Boy thinks it’s OK for a pitch invasion as long as the fans behave even though encroaching on the playing area without reasonable excuse is a criminal offence.

Same attitude as Johnson’s to the law although in Frank’s defence he wasn’t responsible for actually passing the law.

To be honest, he's right. What would be the moral issue with running on the pitch to celebrate a joyous moment with your own players?

The issue is, some Everton fans couldn't manage it without becoming aggressive (same with Nottingham Forest fans) and that spoilt it for the fans who did just want to give Calvert-Lewin a hug or have a dance on the pitch.

That's why these things become a criminal offence but if you didn't always get some idiot who couldn't control themselves, people could have nice things like jubilant celebrations.
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Even if it doesn't get off the ground, something that has done is the increasing ill will towards EFC and its appalling fanbase. They are making enemies left, right and centre. Their disgusting antics are opening a lot of eyes.

Really?

I'm not getting any of this from football fans I know, not a mention at all.

When I brought up them deliberately trying to injure Liverpool players, the response was "what else can they do, you should take it as a compliment"

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Everton have got what they want, a moment. And it goes to show that they will take any moment - finally people are saying Evertons name. Podcasts and tv shows haven’t forgotten to mention them for the 9th week in a row.

What a day for the blues!!!!!!

It's like being a toddler. If you don't get attention for being good, you scream the place down, spit your dummy, vomit all over your bib, lash your dinner on the floor until someone notices you. Even if they are only telling you off for being naughty, you lap it up because, even a telling off is better than being ignored.

Child psychologists would have a field day with that lot.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long, and you've burned so very, very brightly, Jürgen.

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So before last night the last thing Everton did of note was shoving a blue dildo in that journos ear.

And the time before that was Paul Gascogne giving Bill Kenwright his shoe cos Bill had lost his. But that was Paul……that was Paul

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It's like being a toddler. If you don't get attention for being good, you scream the place down, spit your dummy, vomit all over your bib, lash your dinner on the floor until someone notices you. Even if they are only telling you off for being naughty, you lap it up because, even a telling off is better than being ignored.

Child psychologists would have a field day with that lot.

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Then you do one good thing and everyone says how amazing you are and that you’re not a spoilt little tory, you’re a really good little child!
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'Burnley and Leeds have written to the Premier League to question whether Everton had broken financial fair play rules after they recorded losses of £371.8m over the past three years.':-

https://twitter.com/skysportsnews/status/1527685424231108608 (with video)


^ it'll probably be sorted some time (years) after they have finished investigating Manchester City [cough]...


'Everton 'confident' they have complied by FFP rules after Burnley and Leeds threaten legal action':-

www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12617672/everton-confident-they-have-complied-by-ffp-rules-after-burnley-and-leeds-threaten-legal-action

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'Burnley and Leeds have written to the Premier League to question whether Everton had broken financial fair play rules after they recorded losses of £371.8m over the past three years.':-

https://twitter.com/skysportsnews/status/1527685424231108608 (with video)
Oh sweet, so so sweet….

This was always possible
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There would have been a volley of toddlers aimed, indiscriminately, at any player Palace or Everton.
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Oh sweet, so so sweet….

This was always possible

We all pretty much called this.  It's right too.  Should have complained at the time too

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I hate posts that include the phrase 'I'd love to be proved wrong' - far too many of them on here and its usually an excuse to be negative or whingy.

But I'm gonna break my own rule for once and say that I really can't see Leeds or Burnley suing the PL over Everton or any court action taking place. For starters isn't there a FIFA rule that clubs cannot take their associations to court; they have to use CAS? And in any case while there may be a few stiff letters and some sabre rattling, when it comes down to it, there'll be no appetite for taking it further and nothing will happen.

But, you know, I'd love to be proved wrong, like ;)

Burnley were bought in a leveraged buy out, they are likely fucked as a football club if they go down. Leeds were out of the PL for 16 years and will not want a season at least out. With the huge amounts of money involved and the damage relegation can do, I cannot see them NOT taking this to CAS if they cannot sue the PL.

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There would have been a volley of toddlers aimed, indiscriminately, at any player Palace or Everton.

Not to worry. Richarlison would have safely lobbed them out of the stadium.
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