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Peasants and Plebs couldn't afford wine (most of the time) only a pleb would make that mistake.

Pleb.
haha. to be honest I like wine. What's a portmanteau of peasant and pleb. Plebsant?
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haha. to be honest I like wine. What's a portmanteau of peasant and pleb. Plebsant?

I love wine too.

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I love wine too.

This time tomorrow I will be by St Emillion.

Enjoy mate! (Bummed I am not there too)

haha. to be honest I like wine. What's a portmanteau of peasant and pleb. Plebsant?

Sure sounds good to me. I am being too lazy to decline/conjugate it tonight.
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Enjoy mate! (Bummed I am not there too)

Sure sounds good to me. I am being too lazy to decline/conjugate it tonight.

The chateau next to my mates house in Sainte Colombe sells 5 litres for 10 euros.

Cant argue with that .
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When I was there last in December I think it was from 2013.
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I'm going to Brussels in July on a bit of a beer holiday, has anybody been and got any recommendations of places to visit? Generally the more sour the beer, the more I like it. My brother has been about a year ago and has similar tastes to me, he's recommended the following places:

Mort Subite
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Delirium Tremens Café
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haha. to be honest I like wine.

I've got a wine cellar. No wine in it...just a bag of cement

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No idea about internationally shipped beer/Ale clubs.

When ever you visit out here again if we connect I'll help you find some excellent quaffs.

Even some bourbon and scotch too.
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Not widely available - only in this blue pub I think -  but a nice pint non the less.

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Any recommendations for Beer Clubs/Subscriptions? I've just cancelled by Beer52 sub, as I felt the selections they were sending out recently were very uninspired (Brewdog? Seriously?), and they put a bottle of Arrogant Bastard (I cannot understand the love in for this, at all) in recently, which is nothing but horrid, unbalanced pisswater in my book, so a loss of brownie points there as it was a total waste of a bottle.

Off home to drink some Arbor APAs, if I've got any left.
quite liked arrogant bastard

thats founders isnt it? their breakfast stout and porter is good. dirty bastard is good too but their breakfast stout is immense
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Been in London all weekend prior to our game tonight and ended up in the Lowlander Cafe on Dury Lane Saturday night.

Searched RAWK and found this in a London nightlife thread.

Cracking little bar and the barman recommended me Bruges Zot. 6.2 percent but bloody lovely stuff. I shifted 2 pints of it swiftly and by God I knew I'd had it.

Will definitely be revisiting in the future to try some others :)

Any other 'Bruges Zot' lovers other than me and Stubbins on here?



Walked into a pub last night and noticed they had bottles of this in the fridge. Couldn't resist the little jester! Very nice like you say.

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Been in London all weekend prior to our game tonight and ended up in the Lowlander Cafe on Dury Lane Saturday night.

Searched RAWK and found this in a London nightlife thread.

Cracking little bar and the barman recommended me Bruges Zot. 6.2 percent but bloody lovely stuff. I shifted 2 pints of it swiftly and by God I knew I'd had it.

Will definitely be revisiting in the future to try some others :)

Any other 'Bruges Zot' lovers other than me and Stubbins on here?




London has some great pubs, I always try and build in a bit of time to visit the Euston tap when I'm training it back to Liverpool for work - got some ace craft lagers / pilsners in there.

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Been in London all weekend prior to our game tonight and ended up in the Lowlander Cafe on Dury Lane Saturday night.

Cracking little bar and the barman recommended me Bruges Zot. 6.2 percent but bloody lovely stuff. I shifted 2 pints of it swiftly and by God I knew I'd had it.

Will definitely be revisiting in the future to try some others :)

Any other 'Bruges Zot' lovers other than me and Stubbins on here?




I raised a glass of Bruges Zot to you this week Pete. This time in the Trembling Madness in York. It's a beer shop downstairs (treasure trove of every beer you could imagine) and small bar upstairs, all housed in a rickety old medieval building which is apparently haunted. I'll bet the haunted bit is good for business.

Good selection of beers on tap in the bar and a greater selection of bottled beers. Must have been upwards of 30 on the beer menu from predominantly Belgium and Germany.

Needless to say Bruges Zot was the beer of choice. Three of them and negotiating those old timber stairs on the way out was a bit of a job.

Here's to the next one, wherever that might be.

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The older i get, the more hoppy I want my ale to be.

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The older i get, the more hoppy I want my ale to be.

This is the trend here in the states as well... there are two theories which I have heard branded about the industry as to why this is the case.

One: "Baby Boomers" (Generation born directly after WWII up to 1960) are losing the sensitivity in their taste buds and thus this leads to the seeking out of more hoppy beers and the adding of more hot sauce onto their food. (this i have seen loads of times most often with my own father.)

Two: "Baby Boomers" have begun to seek out/return to the tastes of their youth. And yes I know that beer was not hopped as much back then and that most beers (Here in the states at least) were like having intercourse in a canoe. However it is not the taste from the buzz of the beer that they are seeking out rather the hoppy sweetness of the sticky green which they used to partake in.
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This is the trend here in the states as well... there are two theories which I have heard branded about the industry as to why this is the case.

One: "Baby Boomers" (Generation born directly after WWII up to 1960) are losing the sensitivity in their taste buds and thus this leads to the seeking out of more hoppy beers and the adding of more hot sauce onto their food. (this i have seen loads of times most often with my own father.)

Two: "Baby Boomers" have begun to seek out/return to the tastes of their youth. And yes I know that beer was not hopped as much back then and that most beers (Here in the states at least) were like having intercourse in a canoe. However it is not the taste from the buzz of the beer that they are seeking out rather the hoppy sweetness of the sticky green which they used to partake in.
First, I'm old but not an effin' baby boomer!

Second, a lot of the beer we drank when we were earning our spurs was tasteless fizzy rubbish. It is just wonderful to have beer with actual flavour and mouthfeel. Drinking this stuff possibly makes you open to trying out more interesting and quirky flavours - there are lots of foods and other flavours I found horrible in my youth that I quite enjoy now - caviar, smelly cheese, gravlax etc. Its not that I like the really really bitter hoppy beers but that there needs to be a sufficient degree of bitterness and interesting flavour for it to hold my interest. I've also gone slight off the sweeter Belgian style wheat beers - your Hoegaardens and the like but give me a nice Saison any time...

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First, I'm old but not an effin' baby boomer!

Second, a lot of the beer we drank when we were earning our spurs was tasteless fizzy rubbish. It is just wonderful to have beer with actual flavour and mouthfeel. Drinking this stuff possibly makes you open to trying out more interesting and quirky flavours - there are lots of foods and other flavours I found horrible in my youth that I quite enjoy now - caviar, smelly cheese, gravlax etc. Its not that I like the really really bitter hoppy beers but that there needs to be a sufficient degree of bitterness and interesting flavour for it to hold my interest. I've also gone slight off the sweeter Belgian style wheat beers - your Hoegaardens and the like but give me a nice Saison any time...

HAHA, I was not calling you a Baby Boomer mate. Just pointing out the theories.

And yes, our tastes evolve and change over time.
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I raised a glass of Bruges Zot to you this week Pete. This time in the Trembling Madness in York. It's a beer shop downstairs (treasure trove of every beer you could imagine) and small bar upstairs, all housed in a rickety old medieval building which is apparently haunted. I'll bet the haunted bit is good for business.

Good selection of beers on tap in the bar and a greater selection of bottled beers. Must have been upwards of 30 on the beer menu from predominantly Belgium and Germany.

Needless to say Bruges Zot was the beer of choice. Three of them and negotiating those old timber stairs on the way out was a bit of a job.

Here's to the next one, wherever that might be.

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I was drinking Brugse Zot Donker last week in Gent. Lovely. So was everything else. Prearis Grand Cru is amazing. Tre Fontaine is pretty damn good.
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Saw a friend on Twitter jokingly pleading mercy recently with the three or four beers clubs that she gets emailed by, as they were pumping out the pre-Christmas emails.  Asked her which was her favourite, and she recommended Beer52.

Christmas morning; my dad opens an Honest Brew box, gifted by my brother.  Well that was my resistance broken; had ordered a Beer52 box by Boxing Day afternoon ;D

Meanwhile, my brother had told me on Christmas Day that a gift from him to me was arriving late.  I should have realised really...

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Tell you what's a decent slurp from Tesco, Bishop's Finger @ £1.25p a bottle. And though I lived and worked in Belgium for 3.5 years and developed a taste for many great beers, that one is good value for yer pennies back home.
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My local Tescos have started to sell Courage Directors. I drink it and get taken to a 1990s happy place.
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My local Tescos have started to sell Courage Directors. I drink it and get taken to a 1990s happy place.

The Wetherspoon near me used to do Directors on cask for £1.49 a pint.  Happy days. 

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Tell you what's a decent slurp from Tesco, Bishop's Finger @ £1.25p a bottle. And though I lived and worked in Belgium for 3.5 years and developed a taste for many great beers, that one is good value for yer pennies back home.
Like this myself also. For a decent amount of beer in the bottle again like this at the same price, I have been on the Wychwood Hobgoblin. The describe it as "Traditionally craft brewed with Chocolate & Crystal malts and a blend of Styrian, Goldings & Fuggles hops to produce a full-bodied, Ruby beer that delivers a delicious chocolate toffee malt flavour, balanced with a rounded moderate bitterness and an overall fruity, mischievous character" No idea how a beer is mischievous, but the ingredients are top notch there, and you can taste that. 5.2 is a good middle strength for the winter for me, half way between the small Belgians and normal bitter.
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Any Pilsner Urquell fans? Just recently discovered it. Cracking lager. One with history as well - it's the first Pilsner that was brewed in Plzen in the former German lands, now the Czech Republic.

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Any Pilsner Urquell fans? Just recently discovered it. Cracking lager. One with history as well - it's the first Pilsner that was brewed in Plzen in the former German lands, now the Czech Republic.

Love a drop of that, used to drink it in Bier on Newington, now the Newington Temple.

I'm sure loads here drunk it that went to Porto but Super Bock went down a treat.

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My local Tescos have started to sell Courage Directors. I drink it and get taken to a 1990s happy place.

I’ve got it coming out of my taps.

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Love a drop of that, used to drink it in Bier on Newington, now the Newington Temple.

I'm sure loads here drunk it that went to Porto but Super Bock went down a treat.
I live in Spain and Pilsner Urquell seems to be much more ubiquitous than it is in the UK. Availability of decent lager at affordable prices is much better in general.

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This is the trend here in the states as well... there are two theories which I have heard branded about the industry as to why this is the case.

One: "Baby Boomers" (Generation born directly after WWII up to 1960) are losing the sensitivity in their taste buds and thus this leads to the seeking out of more hoppy beers and the adding of more hot sauce onto their food. (this i have seen loads of times most often with my own father.)

Two: "Baby Boomers" have begun to seek out/return to the tastes of their youth. And yes I know that beer was not hopped as much back then and that most beers (Here in the states at least) were like having intercourse in a canoe. However it is not the taste from the buzz of the beer that they are seeking out rather the hoppy sweetness of the sticky green which they used to partake in.
There is at least one other theory. Lupulin threshold shift - sound really scientific, innit?

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/lupulin-threshold/
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I live in Spain and Pilsner Urquell seems to be much more ubiquitous than it is in the UK. Availability of decent lager at affordable prices is much better in general.
I started brewing last year and sometime in the autumn I had to realise that I can only tolerate Pilsner Urquel from tap. That's still brilliant.
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Any Pilsner Urquell fans? Just recently discovered it. Cracking lager. One with history as well - it's the first Pilsner that was brewed in Plzen in the former German lands, now the Czech Republic.

Lovely lovely stuff, the drink of the summer for me.
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I started brewing last year and sometime in the autumn I had to realise that I can only tolerate Pilsner Urquel from tap. That's still brilliant.
Aye the bottles or cans are OK but not many beat it on draft.

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There is at least one other theory. Lupulin threshold shift - sound really scientific, innit?

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/lupulin-threshold/

Yes, I forgot about that one. But yes, it sounds really scientific...
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Tell you what's a decent slurp from Tesco, Bishop's Finger @ £1.25p a bottle. And though I lived and worked in Belgium for 3.5 years and developed a taste for many great beers, that one is good value for yer pennies back home.

Know and appreciate the Finger.

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I have been drinking Camden Hells Lager all night, good stuff.
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Anyone recommend a good craft beer monthly subscription?, I already have one with Flavourly, but for obvious reasons it doesn't last long (the beer is fantastic), wouldn't mind subscribing to another one each month.

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Like this myself also. For a decent amount of beer in the bottle again like this at the same price, I have been on the Wychwood Hobgoblin. The describe it as "Traditionally craft brewed with Chocolate & Crystal malts and a blend of Styrian, Goldings & Fuggles hops to produce a full-bodied, Ruby beer that delivers a delicious chocolate toffee malt flavour, balanced with a rounded moderate bitterness and an overall fruity, mischievous character" No idea how a beer is mischievous, but the ingredients are top notch there, and you can taste that. 5.2 is a good middle strength for the winter for me, half way between the small Belgians and normal bitter.
Probably mischievous if you start drinking in Nelson (Lancashire mate from uni is from there) and it causes you to end up at a party in Harrogate with no knowledge of how you got there.

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My tastes in lager have contracted further away from harsh taste and overly hoppy. I think it's increased choosing of wheat beers like Erdinger or Hoegaarden. Budweiser, Coors Light & Fosters my lager favourites now; light and mildly fruity.

A year or so ago in Mancland I went in Brewdog with some mates. Took me an hour to struggle through a pint of some IPA. Horrible - almost like a bitter.

So I'm not sure why I bought a 6 pack of Maltsmiths Pilsner Style Lager. Actually I am sure; it's because it was in the reduced to clear section at Tesco, half price at £3.

And it's frigging rank.

Overly malty, overly hoppy and with a chemical-citrussy aftertaste. I found that after every slurp my nose would involuntarily wrinkle up. That first can was opened when the contents were merely 'cool' so I figured it may improve on proper chilling. It didn't. The remaining 4 cans will sit in my garage until either a mate with no taste buds and an inexplicable penchant for overly hoppy/malty crap visits, or I fancy a beer-buzz but am out of nice, light lager and can't face a creme de menthe or white spirit.





 
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