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If I don't get a vote it's not an issue, I just pick randomly with my eyes closed anyway.

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You want in mate? There’s space!!!

No thanks.
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Lets crack on with this one now, that other drafts dead in the water and needs voiding

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5 spaces left lads
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Ah fuck it if you need someone, I'll enter. It's just putting a team together and then slagging off who we think Samie and Claus are in charge of.
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Ah fuck it if you need someone, I'll enter. It's just putting a team together and then slagging off who we think Samie and Claus are in charge of.

Perfect mate...  We'll take good care of yer.  Who knows?  You might be the subterfuge king!
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I'm in if there's space, if not, keep me on an alternates list.

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In if needed.
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I'm in if there's space, if not, keep me on an alternates list.
Ban this man Trend, he has no taste.

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It's nepotism if Andy get's Bayern Munich.  :wave

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In if needed.

Oh. I quite like this.... one more spot, then :)
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Claus
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Samie/Prof (bring him in - it'll be fun to have the Dream Team) - 1 vote per team
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« Last Edit: January 27, 2021, 03:33:36 pm by Trendisdestiny »
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Prof is busy, I ride solo  once again.  8)

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I'm in.

I thought you had included me :D

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If that's too many now I'm happy to drop out and watch from afar.
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Claus
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Only 1 spot left

If we have more than 16, I recommend partnering up.   1 vote per team. :)


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Need to get one of these lads

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Happy to drop out too to let others in if needed. I've peaked with my last team anyway
Maybe the group, led by your leadership, will see these drafts as PR functions and brilliant use of humor

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Happy to drop out too to let others in if needed. I've peaked with my last team anyway

Never Claus.  Just fucking never... get your head on straight.
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I'm in.

I thought you had included me :D

Yeah, I do not know where the fuck my head was --- yes you're in..
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If that's too many now I'm happy to drop out and watch from afar.

Is there one of these rapscallions you might want to partner with? 

Maybe someone who has skills in subterfuge, merging your keen footballing instincts with some premium kaka...
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Fixed

Man, its already count down to ECL and I have made at least three glaring errors!  Fantastic.

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Is there one of these rapscallions you might want to partner with? 

No I hate them all.
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No I hate them all.

You're a simple man...  Find a solution where you are involved, I have special plans for you mately :))

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We've done drafts with 25 people for fuck sakes, 16 was just the optimum amount need if we wanted to do groups and a proper knockouts.

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As I said, I'm in if you need someone.

You clearly don't so I'm out!  :wave
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As I said, I'm in if you need someone.

You clearly don't so I'm out!  :wave

You posted.  You're in - Committed.  Sorry.  But maybe you'll take on someone --- where you can specialize in the subterfuge part. :)
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We've done drafts with 25 people for fuck sakes, 16 was just the optimum amount need if we wanted to do groups and a proper knockouts.

Well, this is an idea....

But how do you get ECL groups and 32 teams with 18 or 20 managers?
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Didn't even notice this thread running until now. Without the word draft in the title, I assumed it was one of those fantasy football leagues  ;D

Anyway, good stuff Trend. Happy to see my consortium idea going down well. That's how the Battle of the Club Sides draft worked and it went pretty well. Less pure as Claus points out, but definietly better balanced and fairer on all. As I said over PM, I'm also totally FOR Liverpool being included in either scenario.

I had one other idea I meant to send you... would it be possible to do a separate tournament for the second teams? So these teams get their chance to shine without depending on a good draw or a good wildcard. I know it would mean extra work for you, but I'd be really interested to see who the best of the rest are.
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Didn't even notice this thread running until now. Without the word draft in the title, I assumed it was one of those fantasy football leagues  ;D

Anyway, good stuff Trend. Happy to see my consortium idea going down well. That's how the Battle of the Club Sides draft worked and it went pretty well. Less pure as Claus points out, but definietly better balanced and fairer on all. As I said over PM, I'm also totally FOR Liverpool being included in either scenario.

I had one other idea I meant to send you... would it be possible to do a separate tournament for the second teams? So these teams get their chance to shine without depending on a good draw or a good wildcard. I know it would mean extra work for you, but I'd be really interested to see who the best of the rest are.

Yep Betty, like you said in your email, the simulations of running the first style league made it clear that the consortium approach with Steals and separate point system for subterfuge fun was a better approach.   People will have to get used to newness, but will enjoy building their teams more.

And everyone is in the same boat with their second teams.   

Was thinking of turning it into a Europa League draw actually, available for both the 32 Team Champions League Limit --- but once out - Fall to a new Cup chase.    Just those teams.  It solves both problems - structure and competition.

But I could not reconcile the point totals in the overall Managerial Rankings (especially after adding a new subterfuge system).

Thoughts?
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Was thinking of turning into a Europa League draw actually, available for the 32 Team Champions League Limit --- but once out - Fall to a new Cup chase.    Just those teams.  But I could not reconcile the point totals in the overall Managerial Rankings (especially after adding a new subterfuge system).

Thoughts?

I like that as well. Fits the CL theme of the draft perfectly. Definitely a good way to honour those teams who may be able to put a good 11 together but just not quite strong enough to compete with the biggest teams.
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I like that as well. Fits the CL theme of the draft perfectly. Definitely a good way to honour those teams who may be able to put a good 11 together but just not quite strong enough to compete with the biggest teams.

How do we set up the points for that competition.  Do we want that kind of equivalency or am I being pedantic here.

I am thinking the Europa cup draw of the 1st 16 teams out (might be a winner take all the points type of thing).    Make it worth 15 points to the winner.  See how this changes up Manager Rankings?

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And you could potentially do a Super Cup final, with the winner from the CL facing the winner of the EL in the end.

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Maybe do 8 groups of 4. Top 2 through to the CL knockouts, like you did with the Euros, and then the 3rd place teams into a EL quarter final draw?
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And you could potentially do a Super Cup final, with the winner from the CL facing the winner of the EL in the end.

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This is becoming epic! We'll be playing our Champions League final simultaneously with the real thing. I love it!
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