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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2007, 01:37:01 pm »
Might be sacreligious but I prefer Elton John's Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds to the Beatles' version.

I prefer William Shatner's version to Reg's version.

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2007, 01:38:33 pm »
"Mad World" - the Gary Jules cover is just better than the Tears for Fears version.

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2007, 01:51:31 pm »
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2007, 01:54:23 pm »
Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U (Prince)


Definitely. One of the seminal cover versions that unlocks something hitherto unheard.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2007, 02:09:14 pm »
Arctic Monkeys version of Love Machine (Girls Aloud).

On that note the Sugababes version of I Bet You Look Good On The Dance Floor by the AMs
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2007, 02:13:24 pm »
On that note the Sugababes version of I Bet You Look Good On The Dance Floor by the AMs

Or the same girls with Freak Like Me/Are Friends Electric.

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2007, 02:47:32 pm »
Maybe the challenge should be to list the greatest Cash covers without Hurt.  :) The man covered a lot of songs, many of them much better than the originals. These are my favorites:

1) Ain't Me Babe- a Bob Dylan song; sung with June Carter Cash
2)Danny Boy- particularly the version on American IV: The Man Comes Around
3) Ring of Fire- arguably a cover since it was recorded by June Carter Cash's sister before Johnny did it
4) Were You There (When They Crucified My Lord) -traditional
5) Highway Patrolman - Bruce Springsteen
6) Bird on a Wire- Leonard Cohen; not sure if Cash's is necessarily better but it's pretty magnificient
7) So many from American IV including Personal Jesus (Depeche Mode), I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry (Hank Williams; sung with Nick Cave); I Hung My Head (Sting); Bridge Over Troubled Water (Simon and Garfunkel)

There are no cover versions of Hank Williams Snr's records that are even remotely better than the originals. Especially not I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry. Especially that one.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2007, 02:53:52 pm »
I prefer William Shatner's version to Reg's version.

Shatner's version is like, hey, wow, farout.....man.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2007, 03:15:00 pm »
No it's not. The Glen Campbell version is definitive and peerless.

Jonny Cash did some good covers, but to suggest that his and St Nick's version of I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry comes anywhere the desperate, haunted original is wrong, wrong, wrong. Hank sang it with a primal howl because he was a man in such despair that he truly, truly did mean it. Johnny and Nick, well, they've had their trials but, let's face it, neither of them were anywhere near that dark place Hank was,

The most you can ask from a cover is that it either does something different to the original, doesnt try to ape it, but pulls it out of shape and takes it somewhere interesting. Lost in Music by The Fall for example. Or you get a singer, like Cash, who can inhabit a song so expertly that you can believe it was written and meant for them to sing. Elvis, a man who never wrote a tune in his life, could do that brilliantly - see his his version of Only the Strong Survive for proof.



Didn't see this post before....agree with the Hank Williams comments apart from the howling bit. Hank didn't howl IMO but despair and sadness seeped through every note he sang or played.

Blue Suede Shoes by Elvis is a good cover version of the Carl Perkins original. Now that is a song that Johnny Cash was associated with; he advised Perkins to write a song about shoes when they were on tour together in 1955. Perkins duly did (he wrote it on the side of a potato sack) and the song started to do very well, but before he could promote it and send himself into the musical stratosphere he had a car accident and ended up in traction. Whilst in hospital he saw Elvis perform the song on TV and it became the King's 3rd top 40 hit. Perkins never regained the same momentum but was always well respected among his peers.

Interesting sidenote is that Carl Perkins co-wrote a song on a Paul McCartney album with the ex-Beatle. Perkins also played rhythm guitar on the McCartney/Stevie Wonder hit, Ebony and Ivory.

By the way, with all due respect to Johnny Cash, he isn't even a tenth of the artist Hank Williams Snr was; which is no disrespect to Cash as there are very very few that get even that close to the greatest country artist that ever lived.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2007, 03:32:33 pm »
None. All originals are better.

I concur.

Apart from All Saint's cover of "Under The Bridge". That was awesome ::)
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2007, 03:37:43 pm »
Anyone else remember the version of Straight Outta Compton by Nina Gordon.  AS was good enough to include it in one of her trailer bride radio broadcasts (any chance of another?). 

I wouldn't say it was better than the original but it was certainly an original re-working.

In general however I'm not a big fan of all these lounge-style (Shatner et al) reworkings of left-field classics, it's all a bit too "cover by numbers" for my liking.  A comedy novelty rather than something that will stand the test of time (file under Flowers, Mike).



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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2007, 03:53:07 pm »
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2007, 03:56:19 pm »
Had a think about Johnny Cash's best performance of a song he never wrote...reckon it is this one

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2007, 04:00:42 pm »
Anyone else remember the version of Straight Outta Compton by Nina Gordon.  AS was good enough to include it in one of her trailer bride radio broadcasts (any chance of another?). 

I wouldn't say it was better than the original but it was certainly an original re-working.

In general however I'm not a big fan of all these lounge-style (Shatner et al) reworkings of left-field classics, it's all a bit too "cover by numbers" for my liking.  A comedy novelty rather than something that will stand the test of time (file under Flowers, Mike).

I invoked Shatner as a criticism of Elton John rather than as a paragon of coverdom.

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #55 on: October 15, 2007, 04:15:28 pm »
???


How can Simple Minds' version of Sign o' the Times be better than Prince's?

I quite like the Minds' mid-80s stuff, but c'mon, the original was a classic and the cover was mediocre and offered nothing new or different.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #56 on: October 15, 2007, 04:33:18 pm »
It's My Life - No Doubt. Original was by Talk Talk.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #57 on: October 15, 2007, 04:41:07 pm »
It's My Life ... Original was by Talk Talk.


And was better.

No Doubt's cover was a mere re-hash.

C'mon people, to be better a cover has to do something that transcends it above the original.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #58 on: October 15, 2007, 04:47:18 pm »
'Hurt' - Johnny Cash, original by Nine Inch Nails.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2007, 04:57:26 pm »
You are a woman of taste and discernment. If I had to offer an addition to your suggestions, I'd go for his superb cover of Bonnie Prince Billy's I See A Darkness. The original is wonderful, JC makes it staggering. It's even better than Hurt, for me.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2007, 08:19:17 pm »
I've actually thought of one

Live & Let Die by Guns N Roses was better the Paul McCartney version
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2007, 08:51:16 pm »
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #62 on: October 15, 2007, 09:04:33 pm »
What about covers of Johnny Cash songs? NRBQ's version of Get Rhythm was so good Cash adopted the rock-out vers. for his stage shows in the 80's.

It has a lot of boogie woogie, some great guitar work, and I think it is a version of a Cash song that is better than the original.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #63 on: October 15, 2007, 09:24:42 pm »
Song to the Siren - This Mortal Coil

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #64 on: October 15, 2007, 10:10:21 pm »
Song to the Siren - This Mortal Coil

Was thinking of that....the original is absolutely peerless and I have almost every recorded output available from Tim Buckley. You can get a version of Buckley singing it on the TV show The Monkees on DVD now.

But the This Mortal Coil version is also very special....they did some cracking cover versions.  Chris Bell (Bigstar) and Syd Barrett spring to mind of two writers whose songs they have also covered.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #65 on: October 15, 2007, 11:33:54 pm »
None. All originals are better.

Pish posh.

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2007, 05:10:10 am »
Ones that come to mind:

Sinead O'Connor - Nothing compares 2 u
Clash - I fought the law
Faith No More - Easy
Bjork - It's all so quiet
White Stripes - Jolene
Futureheads - Hounds of Love
Sarah Blasko - Flametrees

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2007, 06:00:35 am »
Ones that come to mind:

Sinead O'Connor - Nothing compares 2 u
Clash - I fought the law
Faith No More - Easy
Bjork - It's all so quiet
White Stripes - Jolene
Futureheads - Hounds of Love
Sarah Blasko - Flametrees

let's keep this going, there's gotta be more...

Good list.....and yes, there are thousands more.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2007, 06:52:44 am »
Maybe the challenge should be to list the greatest Cash covers without Hurt.  :) The man covered a lot of songs, many of them much better than the originals. These are my favorites:

1) Ain't Me Babe- a Bob Dylan song; sung with June Carter Cash
2)Danny Boy- particularly the version on American IV: The Man Comes Around
3) Ring of Fire- arguably a cover since it was recorded by June Carter Cash's sister before Johnny did it
4) Were You There (When They Crucified My Lord) -traditional
5) Highway Patrolman - Bruce Springsteen
6) Bird on a Wire- Leonard Cohen; not sure if Cash's is necessarily better but it's pretty magnificient
7) So many from American IV including Personal Jesus (Depeche Mode), I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry (Hank Williams; sung with Nick Cave); I Hung My Head (Sting); Bridge Over Troubled Water (Simon and Garfunkel)



I won't back down (Tom Petty)
Hurt (Nine Inch Nails)
One (U2)

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2007, 07:08:37 am »
You are a woman of taste and discernment. If I had to offer an addition to your suggestions, I'd go for his superb cover of Bonnie Prince Billy's I See A Darkness. The original is wonderful, JC makes it staggering. It's even better than Hurt, for me.

 :-* Thanks for the compliment. I actually get most of my music tips from RAWK and in particular from you. In fact, you turned me onto Nick Cave. Although I just own the "Best Of" CD at the moment which alone just staggers (no pun intended,  :P) me. I'll go for the Boatman's Call when money comes in.  But it was my parents who got me turned onto Johnny Cash, and Elvis and lots of other 50s and 60s stars. I sometimes feel more comfortable listening to them then I do with some of today's stuff. I was more familiar with Cash's older stuff but I think it might have been your recommendation and maybe Garstonite that got me onto his collaboration with Rick Rubin and the American Recording COmpany. I only have American IV at the moment but I'll add the rest when I have more money.

I also love Hank Williams- particularly, Jambalaya, Hey Good Lookin', Honky Tonk Blues, Your Cheatin' Heart, Ramblin' Man-- maybe because my dad sang them. Of course, I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry is Hank William's song. It might also be among the saddest and most perfect of songs ever written. I shouldn't have implied that John Cash and Nick Cave did it better; however, their version does lend something different which might be better suited to some people and situations. I like the call-and-response style of their duet and then the way that Cave's voice wraps itself around John Cash's as the song ends. It's a different type of loneliness especially when you consider the reverence Cave had for Cash, the circumstances in which Cash was singing it, and the entire theme of goodbye of that album. I think they do justice to Williams' words and version.


By the way, with all due respect to Johnny Cash, he isn't even a tenth of the artist Hank Williams Snr was; which is no disrespect to Cash as there are very very few that get even that close to the greatest country artist that ever lived.

I'm also not sure what the point is in quantifying the difference between Johnny Cash and Hank Williams. Preferences for both can be justified, and country music, American music and culture in general would be poorer without both. Part of Cash's gift was the longetivity and the quality he managed to sustain.  Part of Williams' gift is the inventiveness and creativity in such a short span wracked by affliction.

I was going to include Sunday Morning Coming Down in my list but it's not a cover, I don't think. Cash was the first to record Kristofferson's song, wasn't he? In any case, the line about the smell of frying chicken always get me; sums up a desolate Sunday for me.

 I've also always loved Jerry Lee Lewis' take of Goodnight Irene. Another heartbreaking song.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2007, 07:23:29 am »
Man Who Sold The World - Nirvana (Original by Bowie)
You Were Always on My Mind - Pet Shop Boys (Originally by Elvis)
Red Red Wine - UB40 (Original by Neil Diamond)
Tainted Love - Soft Cell (Original by Gloria Jones)
Caravan of Love - Housemartins (Original by Jasper Isley)
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (Original by Harold Melvin)
I Heard It Through The Grapevine - Marvin Gaye (Original by Gladys Knight)


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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2007, 07:55:15 am »
Tainted Love - Soft Cell (Original by Gloria Jones)

No, I'm not having that. I love the Softcell version, but the Gloria Jones version is peerless.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2007, 08:08:52 am »
No, I'm not having that.
You've no choice, to be honest ;)

Now, sort your fucking form out and stop hitting long balls out of defence.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2007, 08:18:01 am »
Black Betty - Nick Cave. ;D

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2007, 09:13:09 am »
Mimi: good post. Kristofferson was the first to record the song I'm pretty sure. I have his version but Cash's vers. is superior.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #75 on: October 16, 2007, 11:13:38 am »
White Stripes - Jolene
Dolly Parton's version is superior in every way imaginable.
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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #76 on: October 16, 2007, 11:24:56 am »

You Were Always on My Mind - Pet Shop Boys (Originally by Elvis)

I'm not having that, not in a million years.


Whilst on the theme of Elvis, I actually think his version of My Way is better than Sinatra's.

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #77 on: October 16, 2007, 11:42:18 am »
I'm not having that, not in a million years.

Miles better.


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Miles worse.

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #78 on: October 16, 2007, 01:53:58 pm »

Whilst on the theme of Elvis, I actually think his version of My Way is better than Sinatra's.

You should have a few regrets after that suggestion.

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Re: Cover Versions that are better than the Originals
« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2007, 02:10:08 pm »
You should have a few regrets after that suggestion.

I believe he has a few.
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