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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #120 on: February 17, 2009, 10:47:01 am »
Depends on what you order, it can be quite reasonable.

You're right. Wasn't too bad but was totally worth it.
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #121 on: February 17, 2009, 11:29:34 am »
Has any1 actually brought The Big Fat Duck Cookbook.
no where seems to have it in stock. s was wondering if any1 has actually got it and what their thoughts are

Got it for my Birthday, its stunning and as someone already said I doubt ill be sweating over it in the Kitchen! The quality of the book, Photography, paper, everything really is very impressive.
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #122 on: February 17, 2009, 11:41:55 am »
Got it for my Birthday, its stunning and as someone already said I doubt ill be sweating over it in the Kitchen! The quality of the book, Photography, paper, everything really is very impressive.

its a thing of rare beauty.  the last book i remember being so sumptuous was something damien hirst did for taschen years ago:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spend-Everywhere-Everyone-Always-Forever/dp/1873968442/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234870872&sr=1-7

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #123 on: February 17, 2009, 05:13:30 pm »
Can we safely say that you got the girl then?

Haha, not quite - I meant the food was worth it. However, things do look promising. We're going out again next week so I'm keeping me fingers crossed.
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #124 on: February 17, 2009, 05:29:44 pm »
I hope your bank balance can maintain those high standards you've just set.

It's a bit like buying her a diamond building for her first birthday present :D

Nah, that was the one and only time. We're going to Zizzi's next week - and she's paying  ;D
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #125 on: February 17, 2009, 05:38:33 pm »
Bit of a personal question, but what was the bill, roughly, for you two? I'm thinking about going back now, after all these good reviews. I think I spent about £124 last time - for two.


(Hakkasan, not Zizzi ;D)

It came to £128 including a bottle of wine. Had quail and crab to start with ostrich and spicy beef with sticky rice to follow. Proper tasty stuff. The yellow bean sauce that went with the ostrich is fantastic - I highly recommend it.
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #126 on: February 17, 2009, 05:47:53 pm »
Anyone been to Banares? A good experience, but my Mum makes better Indian food to be honest.

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #127 on: February 17, 2009, 06:36:22 pm »
Anyone been to Banares? A good experience, but my Mum makes better Indian food to be honest.

only heard good things about benares - any top tips from your mum on indian cooking then red punjab?

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #128 on: February 17, 2009, 06:48:24 pm »
Anyone been to Banares? A good experience, but my Mum makes better Indian food to be honest.

It's good, hard to compare with good Indian home cooking though!  (I lived in India for 4 years, and have loads of friends from my time there).

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #129 on: February 22, 2009, 11:43:12 am »
Anyone been to Banares? A good experience, but my Mum makes better Indian food to be honest.


I thought it was boss mate, not your typical British Indian like, Atul  is the spice king, your ma must be the spice queen :D



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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #130 on: February 28, 2009, 10:17:37 am »
... feel nauseous

 


i'm not the only one !


...restaurant owned by chef Heston Blumenthal has been closed following a food poisoning scare.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7916305.stm

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #131 on: February 28, 2009, 11:15:58 am »

i'm not the only one !


...restaurant owned by chef Heston Blumenthal has been closed following a food poisoning scare.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7916305.stm

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #132 on: February 28, 2009, 11:24:43 am »
The article actually says he is "fanatical about hygiene",  which is why he has voluntarily closed the restaurant to investigate.
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #133 on: February 28, 2009, 11:27:32 am »
Would have had to have been done. 30 or 40 people complaining about feeling sick in 3 weeks would leave you with no other option. Otherwise im sure the authorities could end up closing him down permanently if he didnt.

Might be a problem this for his business. Going to his restaurant you would think that food poisoning would be the last thing you would get?

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #134 on: February 28, 2009, 11:35:27 am »
He'll be fine.  Show's he is taking it seriously and will only re-open after a full investigation.
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #135 on: February 28, 2009, 12:54:13 pm »

Crikey. £250 quid for some snails in porridge and champagne basted tail of partridge and you get food poisoning. I know it's not funny, but you've got to laugh, a little bit.

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #136 on: February 28, 2009, 09:03:46 pm »
If you're struggling to get a reservation at a Michelen starred eaterie, the 'Toby' in Speke is always a good back up. If that fails Sayers let you sit in now

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #137 on: March 1, 2009, 01:24:22 pm »
For a slightly more normal approach to fine dining the Waterside, also in Bray around the corner from The Fat Duck, is very much worth the experience and the food is delicious but more traditional.

It's probably not quite as pricey as The Fat Duck, certainly for the set menu, but the whole experience is worth it. The 3 stars come as much from the service (valet parking et al) as for the food and everyone working there knows their stuff.

The best thing about the place is how relaxed it is for somewhere so 'exclusive' and the food is as good as it gets.

These places aren't cheap but they are worth it for the experience even if you do it only once. For me doing it occasionally on special occasions is the way forward, more often than that and it loses appeal.

The Michael Caine places, 5 in total i think, around London, Langans, are all very good and not quite a pricey as the above. Some do some cracking typical British food like bangers and mash and fish and chips.
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #138 on: March 1, 2009, 01:28:38 pm »
Actually a very good article on Heston Blumenthal in last week's Good Weekend magazine in Australia - no internet link but Aussies should be able to access the article at any public library.
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #139 on: March 2, 2009, 11:59:27 am »
For a slightly more normal approach to fine dining the Waterside, also in Bray around the corner from The Fat Duck, is very much worth the experience and the food is delicious but more traditional.

It's probably not quite as pricey as The Fat Duck, certainly for the set menu, but the whole experience is worth it. The 3 stars come as much from the service (valet parking et al) as for the food and everyone working there knows their stuff.

The best thing about the place is how relaxed it is for somewhere so 'exclusive' and the food is as good as it gets.

These places aren't cheap but they are worth it for the experience even if you do it only once. For me doing it occasionally on special occasions is the way forward, more often than that and it loses appeal.

The Michael Caine places, 5 in total i think, around London, Langans, are all very good and not quite a pricey as the above. Some do some cracking typical British food like bangers and mash and fish and chips.


the waterside is shut for a refit at the moment.  i haven't been but understand they want to modernise without losing that essentially french character to the food.


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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #140 on: March 2, 2009, 01:45:21 pm »
Was watching his interview with Matthew Fort earlier about the food poisoning scare
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2009/mar/02/heston-blumenthal-fat-duck-food-poisoning

Would love to go there and jealous hassinator! Looking forward to see his new series on Channel 4!

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« Reply #141 on: March 2, 2009, 01:58:11 pm »
^ thanks for posting , very interesting interview.

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #142 on: March 2, 2009, 02:08:13 pm »
Was watching his interview with Matthew Fort earlier about the food poisoning scare
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2009/mar/02/heston-blumenthal-fat-duck-food-poisoning

Would love to go there and jealous hassinator! Looking forward to see his new series on Channel 4!

I'd love to go to Ferran Adrias place, El Bulli in Barcelona
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg9h5S1VW3w

also looking 4wrd to his new series on C4.
in regard to Ferran was that the guy that appeared on Hestons chriftmas feast a couple of years ago (think it was BBC2) who heston went to see about Chemical gastronomy or whateveryou call it
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« Reply #143 on: March 2, 2009, 02:17:24 pm »
also looking 4wrd to his new series on C4.
in regard to Ferran was that the guy that appeared on Hestons chriftmas feast a couple of years ago (think it was BBC2) who heston went to see about Chemical gastronomy or whateveryou call it

As far as I can remember...don't think it was Adria
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #144 on: March 2, 2009, 02:32:38 pm »
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« Reply #145 on: March 2, 2009, 02:46:38 pm »
As far as I can remember...don't think it was Adria
had a feeling it wasnt seem to remeber him being italian. and an innovatior of Hestons cooking style
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #146 on: March 6, 2009, 04:02:09 pm »
Rosenthal hit by Fat Duck bug



TV PRESENTER Jim Rosenthal is on a course of antibiotics after dining at Heston Blumenthal’s Fat Duck restaurant.

The Oxford United fan got a stomach bug after visiting the Fat Duck with his wife Chrissy, boxing promoter Frank Warren and three other friends. ...



http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/4181011.Rosenthal_hit_by_Fat_Duck_bug/

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« Reply #147 on: March 6, 2009, 06:34:25 pm »
on itn news - blimey.  poor old heston.

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #148 on: March 6, 2009, 06:43:03 pm »


http://www.itv.com/News/Articles/Fat-Duck-victims-increase-tenfold-140458212.html



Fat Duck outbreak hits 400 diners
Published: Friday, 6 March 2009, 11:22AM
The number of diners to have fallen ill after eating at celebrity chef Heston Blumenthal's Fat Duck has risen to 400.

The "culinary alchemist" has temporarily shut the restaurant as a precaution after 40 customers came down with a stomach bug.

The Health Protection Agency (HPA) said the number of cases reported, going back to late January, has risen since media coverage of the outbreak.

The HPA's Thames Valley unit is working with the Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead Environmental Health Department to investigate the outbreak of diarrhoea and vomiting.

Dr Graham Bickler, regional director of the HPA south east region said: "This is a very complex outbreak.

"We are working closely with the restaurant and with colleagues in the Royal Borough's environmental health team to explain what happened and to ensure that the risks of it happening again are reduced as much as possible."

A series of rigorous health tests were being carried out but these have so far failed to identify the cause of the scare.

Blumenthal had hoped for the all-clear from environmental health officers on Wednesday but the inconclusive investigation meant he was unable to reopen the Michelin-starred restaurant in Bray, Berkshire.

The chef, who opened The Fat Duck in 1995, found fame with his innovative cooking style - he researches the molecular compounds of dishes to achieve a greater understanding of taste.

His scientific approach to flavours meant The Fat Duck was voted "the best place to eat on earth" by Restaurant magazine in 2005.

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #149 on: March 7, 2009, 06:02:13 pm »
I feel sick reading this thread.

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #150 on: March 7, 2009, 06:25:42 pm »

the waterside is shut for a refit at the moment.  i haven't been but understand they want to modernise without losing that essentially french character to the food.



Yes, I remember seeing that when we went around Autumn last year. I think the general decor was going to be re-done but as i remember the kitchens were going to get a major overhaul. It's pretty small, only around 15-20 tables total, and even then they are pretty tightly packed.

If you want, and you have a boat, you can arrive from the river! Nice touch i thought, although i'm not sure if the valet parking still applies in that case!
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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #151 on: March 7, 2009, 06:28:18 pm »

Fat Duck outbreak hits 400 diners

The number of diners to have fallen ill after eating at celebrity chef Heston Blumenthal's Fat Duck has risen to 400.

Must have served them the edible garden that he served on Heston's Victorian Feast.

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #152 on: March 8, 2009, 03:08:53 pm »
Must have served them the edible garden that he served on Heston's Victorian Feast.

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i thought that looked amazing.  he did the sand thing as part of his 'taste of the sea' course when we went but taking it all the way into being a garden with added cooked insects was most impressive

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« Reply #153 on: March 8, 2009, 03:10:55 pm »
i thought that looked amazing.  he did the sand thing as part of his 'taste of the sea' course when we went but taking it all the way into being a garden with added cooked insects was most impressive

Like i said, amazing creations. Just difficult to comprehend eating. He did inject some of the insects with Tomato concentrate.

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #154 on: March 8, 2009, 06:51:00 pm »
Posted by Phil M on the 'Heston's Feast' Thread

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The Fat Duck, the Michelin-starred restaurant run by renowned chef Heston Blumenthal, has closed as a result of a food poisoning scare.
 
Heston Blumenthal says closing the world renowned Fat Duck has been 'upsetting'

Dozens of customers have reported feeling unwell after eating at the establishment in Bray, Berkshire, where the tasting menu costs £130 and features such culinary delights as mustard ice cream and snail porridge.

The Fat Duck was crowned "the best place to eat on earth" by Restaurant magazine in 2005 and is currently second only to Spain's El Bulli. It has three Michelin stars and is the only restaurant to receive a perfect 10 in this year's Good Food Guide.

Initial tests conducted by environmental health officers and Blumenthal's own food safety consultants have come back negative, but the chef has closed the restaurant temporarily as a precaution. Reservations for the coming days have been cancelled.

The restaurant closed on Tuesday and no date has been set for its reopening, although Blumenthal said he was hopeful that the situation would be resolved next week. He said: "I was in France doing a demonstration on Monday night when I realised we may have to close. I slept on it - or, rather, I didn't sleep - and took the decision on Tuesday morning.

"After 14 years of work, to come to the point where you have to close the restaurant is upsetting. The Fat Duck for me is very much a labour of love. We have 40-odd chefs for 40 customers. All that we try to do is give the best possible experience to our customers and we don't want anyone to feel remotely uncomfortable, let alone unwell. We put so much time and effort and work into providing the best quality we can. But I don't know what else to do but close the restaurant."

Diners who had visited the restaurant began falling in two or three weeks ago. Between 30 and 40 people have been affected.

The source of their symptoms remains a mystery, as the Fat Duck's kitchens are among the most rigorously monitored in the country. Blumenthal said: "The samples have all come back negative. It's very strange. Four or five years ago we enlisted the help of a hygiene consulting company and we routinely send samples off for analysis, as we know there can be all sorts of pitfalls in the supply chain. All our systems are checked and monitored. We have done everything in our power and I've never come across anything like this before.

"We called in the environmental health officers and they said it could be a non-specific virus which is going around. But all our staff have been tested and nothing has shown up. We have even logged the table numbers and the members of staff who served those tables, and there is no correlation. The environmental health officers have been very supportive, although obviously they are concerned."

The closure will prove costly for Blumenthal, but he insisted: "It's very financially damaging, but my first concern before anything else is the customers." All affected diners will be invited back to the restaurant for free meals, and customers with cancelled reservations will go on to a priority waiting list.

Blumenthal is often referred to as a culinary alchemist rather than a chef, creating fiendishly complicated recipes in test tubes.

The self-taught chef opened The Fat Duck in 1995. In 2004 - the same year it was awarded a third Michelin star - food and safety officers found "borderline" levels of listeria in the foie gras and expressed concern that "no core temperatures of the meat are taken". The problems were swiftly dealt with, however, and Blumenthal has since introduced stringent procedures.

The closure is unfortunately timed as Blumenthal's latest Channel 4 series, Feast, begins on Tuesday. Viewers will see him prepare frog blancmange and blackbird pie in a programme which explores food through the ages.


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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #156 on: March 8, 2009, 06:53:14 pm »
Some people need to sort out their immune systems.

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #157 on: March 8, 2009, 07:29:04 pm »
just watching heston's victorian feast repeat on channel 4 now. whether or not it makes you sick, the lad is a genius!


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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #158 on: March 20, 2009, 03:02:17 pm »
so it wasn't his lovely grub after all:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/mar/20/fat-duck-heston-blumenthal-norovirus

Heston Blumenthal puts Fat Duck closure down to norovirus


The health scare that forced the closure of Heston Blumenthal's Fat Duck restaurant may have been caused by the highly infectious norovirus bug, the chef has disclosed in a magazine interview.

The £130-a-head eaterie in Bray, Berkshire, was shut for a fortnight after 40 people complained of diarrhoea and vomiting. Blumenthal closed the restaurant as a precaution while tests were carried out and samples taken from staff and diners.

He told Australia's Hospitality magazine the cause was "categorically not food poisoning" and that "the only thing that has come up is that three staff and five customers have been tested positive for something called norovirus".

The virus is known more commonly as "winter vomiting disease".

Support from potential customers had been incredible, he said.

"It's affected the restaurant big time because we had to cancel 800 people because of the closure, but in terms of the business and people wanting to come in then no."

He said: "For the past five years we've been sending food off every month for sampling and I don't know of any other restaurant in the country that does that. We also have a company that has been looking after our health and safety stuff for the last five years."

The restaurant, which has three Michelin stars and employs 45 chefs and 25 front-of-house staff, has a 17-course taster menu, costing £130, and can take three hours or more to finish. It is also renowned for Blumenthal's gastronomic inventions, such as snail porridge and scrambled egg and bacon ice-cream. Among those taken ill were the boxing promoter Frank Warren and the television sports presenter Jim Rosenthal.

The Health Protection Agency, which said it had received a total of 400 complaints after the media publicity, gave the all-clear while continuing investigations. Last week, it said the Fat Duck had complied with its recommendations, including a risk assessment of all food storage and preparation.

The agency's website says norovirus is the most common cause of infectious gastroenteritis in England and Wales. Its effects are generally mild, with people recovering in two to three days.

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Re: The Fat Duck & Fine Dining Thread
« Reply #159 on: March 20, 2009, 04:52:46 pm »
just watching heston's victorian feast repeat on channel 4 now. whether or not it makes you sick, the lad is a genius!

The tudor one made me sick. But that could be down to Kelvin MaCuntzie
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