Author Topic: A Message to John Henry (Read 119443 times)

chemeddy · « **Reply #1040 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:48:20 am »

Mr Henry, please bring Rafa back. He will know how to get the players performing again...

vicgill · « **Reply #1041 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:27:32 am »

Quote from: nocturnalvin on January 1, 2011, 07:53:08 am

The calculated guess is though, if they do rate Purslow input as of that much importance, they would have rejected his resignation. There were comments made about recent deals that CP made, and the owners openly made known that they are not deals that are in line with their vision. I am not as worried as you are regarding CP. As Kev said, they would have heard much about Rafa's flaws already.

There is no such thing as the perfect human being, we all have our faults and flaws, so what are these glaring flaws that Rafa has that will prevent him from working for Liverpool again?

People in glass houses

bazz · « **Reply #1042 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:27:44 am »

Signed, but it is embarassing that there are spelling mistakes in the letter.

nocturnalvin · « **Reply #1043 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:36:02 am »

Quote from: vicgill on January 1, 2011, 09:27:32 am

There is no such thing as the perfect human being, we all have our faults and flaws, so what are these glaring flaws that Rafa has that will prevent him from working for Liverpool again?

People in glass houses

Are you misreading what i've said ?

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #1044 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:38:05 am »

Quote from: bazz on January 1, 2011, 09:27:44 am

Signed, but it is embarassing that there are spelling mistakes in the letter.

Care to be helpful and point out where so they can be amended

NotBeenInAigburthSince2008 · « **Reply #1045 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:59:10 am »

Quote from: bazz on January 1, 2011, 09:27:44 am

Signed, but it is embarassing that there are spelling mistakes in the letter.

Quote from: Veinticinco de Diciembre on January 1, 2011, 09:38:05 am

Care to be helpful and point out where so they can be amended

Can I be helpful and point out that embarassing has two r's ie embarrassing?

NotBeenInAigburthSince2008 · « **Reply #1046 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:59:38 am »

....oh and signed....

zero zero · « **Reply #1047 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:02:59 am »

Quote from: vicgill on January 1, 2011, 09:27:32 am

There is no such thing as the perfect human being, we all have our faults and flaws, so what are these glaring flaws that Rafa has that will prevent him from working for Liverpool again?

People in glass houses

I think you might be getting the wrong end of the stick in this case, but it seems to me that Rafa's detractors seem to dwell on his flaws. Almost as if he's not supposed to have any, holding him up to an ideal no one can match. I know the man's not perfect (who is?) but I accept the flaws when it comes with the overwhelming plusses he brings.

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #1048 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:04:11 am »

Quote from: Aigburth73 on January 1, 2011, 09:59:10 am

Can I be helpful and point out that embarassing has two r's ie embarrassing?

Hahaha. How, ermmm, embarrassing. Perhaps best not to hold our breath for his proof reading skills then...

vicgill · « **Reply #1049 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:36:38 am »

Quote from: nocturnalvin on January 1, 2011, 09:36:02 am

Are you misreading what i've said ?

It seems I am mate and I've been doing it in other threads too, my apologies

nocturnalvin · « **Reply #1050 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:40:50 am »

Quote from: vicgill on January 1, 2011, 10:36:38 am

It seems I am mate and I've been doing it in other threads too, my apologies

Lol vic. No offence taken.

Mad Men · « **Reply #1051 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:43:24 am »

Really think people need to move on from "rafa is the only solution" mentality. He has had his opportunity and bringing him back won't allow us to re-invent the club from a tactical point of view...the dressing room is "crying out" for a change in attitude and mentality (sorry to sound over dramatic)...away from what Hodgson is introducing at the moment....

Fresh ideas. Fresh outlook. And a fresh start for many of the players already on our books.

Ikki.Fenikkusu · « **Reply #1052 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:46:20 am »

Why? What's so good with "fresh and new"? You want success you go get a coach with a track-record for success. Rafa fits the bill and knows the club inside out. He is the IDEAL candidate.

Mad Men · « **Reply #1053 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:47:44 am »

Quote from: Ikki.Fenikkusu on January 1, 2011, 10:46:20 am

Why? What's so good with "fresh and new"? You want success you go get a coach with a track-record for success. Rafa fits the bill and knows the club inside out. He is the IDEAL candidate.

And here lies the problem.

Genuine_red · « **Reply #1054 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:51:05 am »

SIGNED!
has this been sent?

robblac1 · « **Reply #1055 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:00:27 am »

Quote from: Mad Men on January 1, 2011, 10:43:24 am

Really think people need to move on from "rafa is the only solution" mentality. He has had his opportunity and bringing him back won't allow us to re-invent the club from a tactical point of view...the dressing room is "crying out" for a change in attitude and mentality (sorry to sound over dramatic)...away from what Hodgson is introducing at the moment....

Fresh ideas. Fresh outlook. And a fresh start for many of the players already on our books.

Is there any substance to the view that Carra was anti Rafa? I have heard it many times, but not seen any quotes etc....

Mad Men · « **Reply #1056 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:06:09 am »

Quote from: robblac1 on January 1, 2011, 11:00:27 am

Is there any substance to the view that Carra was anti Rafa? I have heard it many times, but not seen any quotes etc....

Who knows. There have been innuendo's made that Carra was partly responsible for getting Rafa sacked and for sending that "sms" to Houllier about "he didn't beat you boss."

Who really knows.

Passmaster Molby · « **Reply #1057 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:07:25 am »

Pretty sure that recently on TLW they ran two polls about our new manager - one was would you take Rafa back as manager? and around 64% said yes. The other one was who would you want as next Liverpool manager? and listed 5 options along with an "other" where you could name someone not on the list - Rafa polled 34% or something (the highest of the 5 options by far) and another 35% went for various other options not listed.

Now TLW is a famously "anti Rafa" forum and even they think he is the best option - tells you something about just how many fans would really be unhappy about his appointment. On here we had the poll in May about whether you wanted Rafa sacked or not and about 84% said they wanted him to stay (must have missed that poll did you Purslow!)

I don't think Rafa would be as unpopular an appointment as many would have you believe.

Mad Men · « **Reply #1058 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:11:04 am »

Quote from: Passmaster Molby on January 1, 2011, 11:07:25 am

Pretty sure that recently on TLW they ran two polls about our new manager - one was would you take Rafa back as manager? and around 64% said yes. The other one was who would you want as next Liverpool manager? and listed 5 options along with an "other" where you could name someone not on the list - Rafa polled 34% or something (the highest of the 5 options by far) and another 35% went for various other options not listed.

Now TLW is a famously "anti Rafa" forum and even they think he is the best option - tells you something about just how many fans would really be unhappy about his appointment. On here we had the poll in May about whether you wanted Rafa sacked or not and about 84% said they wanted him to stay (must have missed that poll did you Purslow!)

I don't think Rafa would be as unpopular an appointment as many would have you believe.

Don't think its an issue of being a popular or unpopular signing. It's if its the best choice for our future that bothers me.

Passmaster Molby · « **Reply #1059 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:20:35 am »

Quote from: Mad Men on January 1, 2011, 11:11:04 am

Don't think its an issue of being a popular or unpopular signing. It's if its the best choice for our future that bothers me.

I agree, and it is IMO.

hedger · « **Reply #1060 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:23:48 am »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1343189/Roy-Hodgsons-days-Liverpool-numbered-owners-plan-life-him.html

An online petition asking FSG principal John W Henry to sack Hodgson had more than 12,000 signatures last night, while the respected website Red And White Kop also published an open letter to Henry pleading for Hodgson’s removal.

Passmaster Molby · « **Reply #1061 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:24:23 am »

Ha Ha, Respected Website. Talk about creative journalism

Mad Men · « **Reply #1062 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:27:35 am »

Quote from: Passmaster Molby on January 1, 2011, 11:24:23 am

Ha Ha, Respected Website. Talk about creative journalism

Your an official icon.

Brave Lee Flea · « **Reply #1063 on:** January 1, 2011, 12:18:20 pm »

Quote from: Roy of the rovers on January 1, 2011, 08:40:56 am

This letter is getting broadsheet coverage...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1343189/Roy-Hodgsons-days-Liverpool-numbered-owners-plan-life-him.html

An online petition asking FSG principal John W Henry to sack Hodgson had more than 12,000 signatures last night, while the respected website Red And White Kop also published an open letter to Henry pleading for Hodgson’s removal.

I believe it's this petition http://www.petitiononline.com/hodgson/ they're referring to.

Currently now at 15345 Signatures.

Just in case anybody wants to sign it ....

Alan_X · « **Reply #1064 on:** January 1, 2011, 02:23:50 pm »

Quote from: bazz on January 1, 2011, 09:27:44 am

Signed, but it is embarassing that there are spelling mistakes in the letter.

Not, really - it's embarrassing to be snotty about spelling and mis-spell err... embarrassing... in your post.

Chakan · « **Reply #1065 on:** January 1, 2011, 02:24:36 pm »

Quote from: Alan_F on January 1, 2011, 02:23:50 pm

Not, really - it's embarrassing to be snotty about spelling and mis-spell err... embarrassing... in your post.

Shaded Red · « **Reply #1066 on:** January 1, 2011, 02:44:06 pm »

Quote from: Veinticinco de Diciembre on January 1, 2011, 09:38:05 am

Care to be helpful and point out where so they can be amended

Think it should also be "continue in our current vein" rather than vain

MichaelA · « **Reply #1067 on:** January 1, 2011, 07:53:43 pm »

"Respected" by The Daily Mail. My parents will disown me.

Alan_X · « **Reply #1068 on:** January 1, 2011, 07:59:17 pm »

Quote from: Shaded Red on January 1, 2011, 02:44:06 pm

Think it should also be "continue in our current vein" rather than vain

In the original letter?

Pheeny · « **Reply #1069 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:01:29 pm »

Quote from: bazz on January 1, 2011, 09:27:44 am

Signed, but it is embarassing that there are spelling mistakes in the letter.

fuck me it's a foetball site mtae.

Pheeny · « **Reply #1070 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:03:45 pm »

Quote from: Genuine_red on January 1, 2011, 10:51:05 am

SIGNED!
has this been sent?

no we was waiting for you to sign it.

vicgill · « **Reply #1071 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:04:03 pm »

Quote from: Pheeny on January 1, 2011, 08:01:29 pm

fuck me it's a foetball site mtae.

class that Tony

vicgill · « **Reply #1072 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:04:44 pm »

Quote from: Pheeny on January 1, 2011, 08:03:45 pm

no we was waiting for you to sign it.

Fuck me you're on form

MichaelA · « **Reply #1073 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:04:57 pm »

Are you talking about that petition? That's got nothing to do with RAWK and is a completely separate issue.

Pheeny · « **Reply #1074 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:06:47 pm »

Quote from: vicgill on January 1, 2011, 08:04:44 pm

Fuck me you're on form

it's my new years revolution.

PaulD · « **Reply #1075 on:** January 2, 2011, 10:35:02 am »

Quote from: Veinticinco de Mayo on January 1, 2011, 07:09:11 am

How many times to NESV have to hint about poor short term decision making at the club in the last year before you click and realise who was making those decisions and so whom they are implicitly criticising each time?

I despise the poison dwarf and I don't think we should be allowing him to attend games at Anfield but I don't fear that he has the ear of NESV. Not at all. The thing is there will be plenty of people advising them not to bring Rafa back without Purslow opening is deceiver's mouth. As Nocturnalvin said for every RAWK there is a TLW. For every Al555 there is a Xerxes1.

I understand that there are articulate for and against supporters but I am not sure this logic works - at best/worst it means that the fanbase is equally divided. Match going and across the board forum fans, in my opinion would offer more support for the return of Rafa.

s_andrews89 · « **Reply #1076 on:** January 2, 2011, 10:59:36 am »

Fantastic letter. Signed - up to 16887. Hopefully he'll be off soon and take Konchesky/Poulsen with him!

NZ Red · « **Reply #1077 on:** January 2, 2011, 11:13:27 am »

Signed, great letter

cammier · « **Reply #1078 on:** January 2, 2011, 12:43:45 pm »

My plea to the owners. Please ignore the minority of fans who are showering a decent man with verbal abuse at every opportunity and give him your full backing. Give the guy a chance, some of you on here make me ashamed to be a Scouser.

Brave Lee Flea · « **Reply #1079 on:** January 2, 2011, 12:59:57 pm »

Quote from: cammier on January 2, 2011, 12:43:45 pm

My plea to the owners. Please ignore the minority of fans who are showering a decent man with verbal abuse at every opportunity and give him your full backing. Give the guy a chance, some of you on here make me ashamed to be a Scouser.

MY plea to the owners. Please ignore the minority of fans who are unable to recognise a turd when they see one. Roy Hodgson doesn't *understand* football; he blindly, unchangingly sets his team up to a formula which he inherited from a mate 35 years ago. This is not conjecture, aside from the fact that it should be obvious to anybody who has the misfortune to watch his teams play, he happily tells that to anybody who will listen!

He sticks to that formula, whether it works or not, because he doesn't know how to do anything else.

So he'll sit there, telling us how clever he is and how he's not doing anything different now than he did when he was winning championships in Sweden, putting square pegs into round holes.

And when it doesn't work he'll blame the players. Or the previous manager. Or the previous CEO. Or try to lower expectations; beating Everton? Utopia, a dream.

Really it's like watching a spoilt child hammering away at that fisher price ball with the shapes, all the while with a running commentary about how wonderful he is and how unfairly he's been treated.

Please, let's not give him two or three more games. Lets not give him any more games.