Topic: Members Sales

[Hij]

I'm not arsed about getting credits during the 2021-2022 season because the season can be impacted due to Covid and people including myself may find themselves suddenly unable to attend if capacity is reduced.

But like Tiz Lad I am interested in understanding what exactly they'll propose to do for season 2022/2023.

Will they go back to the same criteria as they'll use for the AutoCup this season?

[sonofkenny]

I'm not arsed about getting credits during the 2021-2022 season because the season can be impacted due to Covid and people including myself may find themselves suddenly unable to attend if capacity is reduced.

But like Tiz Lad I am interested in understanding what exactly they'll propose to do for season 2022/2023.

Will they go back to the same criteria as they'll use for the AutoCup this season?

I would think that would be the logical way to do it

[30fiver]

Would make it even harder to decide criteria as they won't know how many members are going to want a years' break though so they probably won't bother

If there's a break I wont do as many for sure whilst I'm saving for a house deposit

[Hij]

I would think that would be the logical way to do it

Having thought about this, I reckon this will be the case.

Removing credits as a factor before the season starts, removes the possibility of games being played at half capacity, quarter capacity etc and then having to deal with the headache of those lucky enough to attend getting credits and those unable to attend because of a restriction on capacity being screwed over through no fault of their own. I reckon that is a major reason why they've removed the credits for next season- as opposed to anything more worrisome.

The upshot of that is that some will be able to take a season off in all comps and walk straight back in the season thereafter I guess. The flip side of that is that with credit hunting reduced for an entire season there may actually be a fairer distribution of tickets for that period. Some will follow habit and box their mates for games etc and to ensure access in the latter part of the season, but I'd be interested to see how low games drop in terms of credits if you know it doesn't really impact you long term.

I wonder if they'll do similar with away games. Remains to be seen if away games happen yet I guess as well.

[30fiver]

So what would they do for 2022/23? Use 19/20?

Like they do with aways, they'll go back several seasons (to 18/19 or 19/20)

[30fiver]

Imagine getting 19/19 next season as a member then getting 0 the year after hahaha

[30fiver]

A tout can easily buy a cheap Smartphone to give to the person they've sold to rather than a members/season ticket card so it doesn't change a thing. It won't cost them anything they'll just add it to the cost of the ticket and they'll keep passports like they have been doing to ensure they get the phone back.

Wont need to do that, tickets go out via text or email... Just give out a simcard or email login to download the ticket to your own device

[Hij]

Like they do with aways, they'll go back several seasons (to 18/19 or 19/20)

Sounds about right.

Sound then.

So the upshot mainly is that I can join the auto cup schemes, and then Covid dependent I'll be able to attend some games next season. But I won't get fucked over if Covid prevents full capacity for games I'm due to attend and get stiffed for credits when I can't attend.

Sounds alright really. I'll still be doing as many as I can.

[30fiver]

What are the Club doing with tickets returned from supporters taking a Season Ticket Holiday?

Seats returned for a holiday during season 2021/22 will be offered to supporters on the Season Ticket Waiting List on a temporary basis.  This will not affect the waiting list position of supporters that do take up the offer.

[30fiver]

Will my eligibility for future ticket purchases from season 2022/23 onwards, including away and cup games, be affected if I take a holiday for season 2021/22?

No, definitely not.  We will not use any game credits from season 2021/22 as eligibility for ticket sales from season 2022/23 and beyond.

[30fiver]

If I choose to purchase my Season Ticket but don’t want to attend yet, could I nominate someone else to go in my place?

The Ticket Exchange option will still be in place, and the Club are currently reviewing other ticket transfer options. More details to follow.

[redgriffin73]

What are the Club doing with tickets returned from supporters taking a Season Ticket Holiday?

Seats returned for a holiday during season 2021/22 will be offered to supporters on the Season Ticket Waiting List on a temporary basis.  This will not affect the waiting list position of supporters that do take up the offer.

Seems fair. Should hopefully free up some of the members quota too for that season.

[swoopy]

Least it might be a bit easier to get tickets this season if credits aren't being given out! people won't need to credit hunt every game even if they aren't attending.

[redgriffin73]

Will my eligibility for future ticket purchases from season 2022/23 onwards, including away and cup games, be affected if I take a holiday for season 2021/22?

No, definitely not.  We will not use any game credits from season 2021/22 as eligibility for ticket sales from season 2022/23 and beyond.

I hadn't thought about them doing the same for aways, might help people get to some Euro aways (if we have any ) that wouldn't normally get the chance - and league aways too of course.

[Hij]

Will my eligibility for future ticket purchases from season 2022/23 onwards, including away and cup games, be affected if I take a holiday for season 2021/22?

No, definitely not.  We will not use any game credits from season 2021/22 as eligibility for ticket sales from season 2022/23 and beyond.

This seems to almost certainly indicate that 2022/2023 will use pre Covid credits. Brilliant.

[30fiver]

This seems to almost certainly indicate that 2022/2023 will use pre Covid credits. Brilliant.

As it should...  the only question is around whether they take 19/20 prem credits into account

The wording in their release about using 19/20 cup credits next year suggests to me that they won't - personal opinion

[Hij]

As it should...  the only question is around whether they take 19/20 prem credits into account

The wording in their release about using 19/20 cup credits next year suggests to me that they won't - personal opinion

Yeah I'm not sure.

I think it would be crazy if they wrote off 15 games. Just combine the two seasons and do it out of 34 I reckon.

It's in my interests for them to write off the 15 because I only got 6 last season as opposed to 12 the season prior - but I don't think they will nor do I think they should.

[Hij]

Who knows what's gonna happen for next season or how Covid will play out, but it does kinda feel nice to be back in here discussing this stuff. Nature is healing

[Barneylfc∗]

As it should...  the only question is around whether they take 19/20 prem credits into account

The wording in their release about using 19/20 cup credits next year suggests to me that they won't - personal opinion

They shouldn't use 19/20. Less than 80% of the season was completed so totally unfair on those that didn't have the opportunity to get to the last 4 games.

[Tiz Lad]

Will my eligibility for future ticket purchases from season 2022/23 onwards, including away and cup games, be affected if I take a holiday for season 2021/22?

No, definitely not.  We will not use any game credits from season 2021/22 as eligibility for ticket sales from season 2022/23 and beyond.

has the question been asked as an ST or as a member because my mate has asked this, today. So wouldn't bank on anything until there's an announcement specifically for members, which will no doubt come out the day after renewals are taken 

[Shaneee.]

They shouldn't use 19/20. Less than 80% of the season was completed so totally unfair on those that didn't have the opportunity to get to the last 4 games.

78.9% was completed. It will also be completely unfair on those who went to 13 of the games that were played?

[Barrowred]

Do people think the potential 6 friends and family will also have to be members?

[NeoAdjuvant]

You can't account for games that you couldn't attend. You can account for games that people attended.

Should they still use 13 as the magic number from the available 15 games? No, in my opinion it should be altered accordingly and the club has this data so it could be released at any point. I find it odd that they're not making a decision about it if I'm honest, especially as they have done with the cup games.

Then again what would be argue about if they did release the info haha

[Welshred]

78.9% was completed. It will also be completely unfair on those who went to 13 of the games that were played?

This is assuming the ticketing criteria wasn't going to move to 14...

[Shaneee.]

This is assuming the ticketing criteria wasn't going to move to 14...

Aye correct. I cannot see how they can just completely discount last season, had there been less than half the games played then okay theres an argument but over 3/4 of the games were played. Time will tell I guess, but rather hear about it soon to put me out of my misery 

[scouser102002]

They shouldn't use 19/20. Less than 80% of the season was completed so totally unfair on those that didn't have the opportunity to get to the last 4 games.

Yeah, let's fuck off the people who actually did attend in favour of the people who didn't but might have

Ridiculous logic

[choi]

As it should...  the only question is around whether they take 19/20 prem credits into account

The wording in their release about using 19/20 cup credits next year suggests to me that they won't - personal opinion

I'll be gutted if that's the case. Spent hours and hours and hours refreshing to get to 15/15 from 4 or 5 credits the season before

[scouser102002]

has the question been asked as an ST or as a member because my mate has asked this, today. So wouldn't bank on anything until there's an announcement specifically for members, which will no doubt come out the day after renewals are taken 

What's this, an online chat thing?

[Tiz Lad]

What's this, an online chat thing?

Yeah mate

[NeoAdjuvant]

https://faq.liverpoolfc.com/portal/en/kb/articles/ticket-refund-will-i-lose-the-credit-for-the-games-being-refunded

[scouser102002]

https://faq.liverpoolfc.com/portal/en/kb/articles/ticket-refund-will-i-lose-the-credit-for-the-games-being-refunded

That was updated 9 months ago

[30fiver]

Do people think the potential 6 friends and family will also have to be members?

I think that would be an acceptable requirement

[NeoAdjuvant]

That was updated 9 months ago

Aye but I'd never seen it before, didn't know the club had even commented on it to be honest

[redgriffin73]

As it should...  the only question is around whether they take 19/20 prem credits into account

The wording in their release about using 19/20 cup credits next year suggests to me that they won't - personal opinion

If they were going to use 19/20 at all surely it would be for next season?

[30fiver]

If they were going to use 19/20 at all surely it would be for next season?

Well yes... but it would also be used the following year too

I think everything is fairly certain cup wise and credit wise for next season, except prem game requirement for members. Just a question of whether they use 19/20 or 18/19 - maybe a combo of both

[Hij]

Surely the easiest thing to do is just use the 34 from two consecutive seasons.

[30fiver]

Surely the easiest thing to do is just use the 34 from two consecutive seasons.

What out of 34 though?

[Welshred]

Surely the easiest thing to do is just use the 34 from two consecutive seasons.

No because then you'll have those who reached 13 last season complaining that they've been punished from the season before because they could only attend, for example, 8 games.

[CornerTakenQuickly]

I think they could use multiple criteria to account for all different situations. Firstly, use a number from 19/20 alone (e.g. 11+ from 19/20). If someone hasn't got 11 from 19/20 then they must have a combined total of 22+ from 18/19 and 19/20 (don't know what the number would be- just an example).

[Welshred]

Mate this is the LFC ticket office there's no way they don't fuck things up if they use multiple criteria