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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5600 on: September 29, 2020, 12:34:36 pm »
Some of those first time volleyed crosses require the sort of technique that only a select few have. This boy is so special.

That volley that was deflected on to the bar was utter filth too. Neville said Leno had it covered but he didn't, it was slicing all the way to the top corner, a bit like Stevie all those years ago.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5601 on: September 29, 2020, 12:56:24 pm »
As good on the ball as always but thought he was a little casual yesterday, misplaced a couple of straightforward passes and played Lacazette onside for his chance.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5602 on: September 29, 2020, 05:04:48 pm »
Just amazing this lad.

In the history of the PL, how many better crossers have there been?  He has to be up there with Beckham, De Bruyne and I suppose Giggs too.  Not many more who get to close to him really.

Giggs got better with age in terms of delivery but in his early years he was pretty erratic.

Beckham, De Bruyne, Gerrard are probably the best I can think of and he’s up there with all of them.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5603 on: September 29, 2020, 05:08:06 pm »
Giggs got better with age in terms of delivery but in his early years he was pretty erratic.



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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5604 on: September 29, 2020, 05:14:53 pm »
Some of those first time volleyed crosses require the sort of technique that only a select few have. This boy is so special.

That volley that was deflected on to the bar was utter filth too. Neville said Leno had it covered but he didn't, it was slicing all the way to the top corner, a bit like Stevie all those years ago.
There are few things as aesthetically satisfying to me as when a ball gets hit like that. Gerrard-esque indeed.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5605 on: September 29, 2020, 05:30:06 pm »
Yorky pointed something out the other day, which got me noticing his control of Salah's pass for the 2nd goal. How long has he been controlling the ball with the sole of his boot?
I missed that detail, I'll rewatch it. Thanks to you and yorky for pointing that out.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5606 on: September 29, 2020, 05:41:13 pm »
As good on the ball as always but thought he was a little casual yesterday, misplaced a couple of straightforward passes and played Lacazette onside for his chance.

Yeah rewatched that this morning - it’s really bad from him he’s looking down the line and he’s a good two yards
behind playing him on

Overall thought he was excellent last night just got to keep his focus for 90

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5607 on: September 29, 2020, 09:02:28 pm »
Yeah rewatched that this morning - it’s really bad from him he’s looking down the line and he’s a good two yards
behind playing him on

Overall thought he was excellent last night just got to keep his focus for 90

To be fair to Trent, there looked to be at least one other Liverpool man playing Lacazette onside.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5608 on: September 29, 2020, 09:25:17 pm »
Just amazing this lad.

In the history of the PL, how many better crossers have there been?  He has to be up there with Beckham, De Bruyne and I suppose Giggs too.  Not many more who get to close to him really.

*cough* Gerrard *cough*  ;)

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5609 on: September 29, 2020, 09:38:49 pm »
Something that’s been clear since lockdown is that opposition teams are paying a lot more attention to TAA. Last night it was Maitland-Niles’ job to get over to Trent as soon as the ball looked like going in his direction.

Which must be slightly frustrating for the lad but, obviously, will leave a gap somewhere else. I’m looking forward to Thiago* exploiting that room and also beating the press on Trent sometimes with his quick, disguised passing.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5610 on: September 29, 2020, 10:15:11 pm »
Giggs got better with age in terms of delivery but in his early years he was pretty erratic.

Beckham, De Bruyne, Gerrard are probably the best I can think of and he’s up there with all of them.

Gerrard is the best striker of a moving ball that I've ever seen. He was obviously first class from a dead ball too, but if you look at the highlights of his goals and assists, so many are from moving balls that he hits first time and the connection was always so pure.


Trent is most definitely up there. He doesn't ever seem to overhit the ball, he's a bit like a cricketer who just times it so well every time without having to go hard at it.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5611 on: September 29, 2020, 10:17:11 pm »
Yeah rewatched that this morning - it’s really bad from him he’s looking down the line and he’s a good two yards
behind playing him on

Overall thought he was excellent last night just got to keep his focus for 90

he was looking at his phone, not down the line.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5612 on: September 30, 2020, 11:35:15 am »
*cough* Gerrard *cough*  ;)

Fair. He could certainly strike a ball better than most. Guess I was thinking only of “proper” wide players.

Amazing to think how TAA still is. He could shatter the PL assists records the way he is going.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5613 on: October 15, 2020, 05:38:07 pm »
Still bizarre that he doesn’t play regularly for England.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5614 on: October 15, 2020, 05:51:11 pm »
Still bizarre that he doesn’t play regularly for England.

Trent is far too attacking for a defensive Southgate side. He’s a poor manager

Good for Liverpool

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5615 on: October 15, 2020, 05:53:07 pm »
The Best don't always get to play many internationals
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5616 on: October 15, 2020, 07:01:23 pm »
Still bizarre that he doesn’t play regularly for England.

I think its bizarre that Southgate is still in the job. Other than the win against Sweden, England beat Columbia on penalties and lost 3 all competitive games at the World Cup. So it doesn’t surprise me he hasn’t found a way of utilising Trent’s talent.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5617 on: October 17, 2020, 02:22:15 pm »
2nd very poor performance in a row. Absolutely day dreaming for that second Everton goal.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5618 on: October 17, 2020, 02:28:40 pm »
2nd very poor performance in a row. Absolutely day dreaming for that second Everton goal.

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His defending has been shocking all season long.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5619 on: October 17, 2020, 02:36:18 pm »
His defending has been shocking all season long.

The back four have turned soft. We are letting too many balls drop, and hesitant in decision making. Bizarre.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5620 on: October 17, 2020, 02:38:51 pm »
That was poor from him for the 2nd.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5621 on: October 17, 2020, 02:39:57 pm »
That was poor from him for the 2nd.
He's got in such situations a few times. Hasn't been at his best.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5622 on: October 17, 2020, 02:42:26 pm »
He got skinned by Digne. Been poor all season but who do we have to challenge his place? No one.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5623 on: October 17, 2020, 02:43:10 pm »
His defending has been shocking all season long.

Bit longer than that actually, but yeah.
He's very important for our attack, but at the moment we're suffering dearly down that side every single game.
He needs to tighten up seriously.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5624 on: October 17, 2020, 04:23:59 pm »
Trent has gone off the boil.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5625 on: October 17, 2020, 04:26:45 pm »
He got skinned by Digne. Been poor all season but who do we have to challenge his place? No one.
Gets himself isolated a lot, probably due to playing on the same side a Salah who looses possession way more than Mane.(also doesn't track back as much as Mane)
But even when we have a few back he looks easy to get passed.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5626 on: October 17, 2020, 06:25:21 pm »
Excellent footballer. But the vast majority of our goals conceded from our right.

What to do?

Perhaps midfielder-turned defender-turned midfielder again?


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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5627 on: October 17, 2020, 06:33:25 pm »
What to do? Should someone stick his Neco out?

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5628 on: October 17, 2020, 06:34:14 pm »
Gets himself isolated a lot, probably due to playing on the same side a Salah who looses possession way more than Mane.(also doesn't track back as much as Mane)
But even when we have a few back he looks easy to get passed.


No idea which of them lose the more more but Mo tracks back tirelessly.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5629 on: October 17, 2020, 07:03:37 pm »

No idea which of them lose the more more but Mo tracks back tirelessly.
Watch today's game again and see how many times Salah loses possession, Salah is a sensational player but doesn't give as much protection as Mane.
What do you think of Trent's defending at the moment?

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5630 on: October 17, 2020, 10:16:26 pm »
Excellent footballer. But the vast majority of our goals conceded from our right.

What to do?

Perhaps midfielder-turned defender-turned midfielder again?

No because Neco isn't ready to play regularly as RB.


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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5631 on: October 17, 2020, 10:23:47 pm »
No because Neco isn't ready to play regularly as RB.


That's for definate, we've seen in the past Trent has no problem defending just looks a bit lost at the moment.
He's a talent so just needs to work hard in training.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5632 on: October 17, 2020, 10:31:31 pm »
That's for definate, we've seen in the past Trent has no problem defending just looks a bit lost at the moment.
He's a talent so just needs to work hard in training.

He needs to contest his man when there is a cross. Today was the main example of that

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5633 on: October 17, 2020, 10:46:54 pm »
He needs to contest his man when there is a cross. Today was the main example of that
Yes, never blocked a cross all match.
Players seem to get  past to him easily, Robertson puts them under way more pressure.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5634 on: October 17, 2020, 10:53:57 pm »
Watch today's game again and see how many times Salah loses possession, Salah is a sensational player but doesn't give as much protection as Mane.
What do you think of Trent's defending at the moment?

Trent's defending? I think it would be a good idea if he was coached to focus on improving it. He is great at attacking but he seems not to grasp the basics of being a defensive full back.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5635 on: October 17, 2020, 11:24:55 pm »
Positioning is something he needs to work on. He still has a lot of developing to do. Still only a young lad, let's not forget.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5636 on: October 17, 2020, 11:34:18 pm »
He’s fuckin brilliant, but not complete.  He needs to realise he has flaws and work to eradicate them.

He’s a smart lad, from a great family background.  Everybody concerned will sort this out and our 66 will be one of the best players in the world in time.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5637 on: October 18, 2020, 12:40:42 am »
In terms of  tracking back and linking with the midfield Salah is a bit of a liability, which further exposes Trent’s defensive shortcomings. But this is something Trent could work on by improving in 1-1 situations. If the opposition knows they’re likely to get dispossessed and punished on the right side they wouldn’t overload  his side so much.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5638 on: October 18, 2020, 08:46:39 am »
He’s fuckin brilliant, but not complete.  He needs to realise he has flaws and work to eradicate them.

He’s a smart lad, from a great family background.  Everybody concerned will sort this out and our 66 will be one of the best players in the world in time.

He already is. People calling his defending "shocking" when he's been part of the back four of the best team in the world need to reevaluate things.

Our strengths can sometimes be a weakness. Pressing high up the pitch, having two incredibly attacking full backs and having forwards who have a degree of free license to roam at times.

Teams have to focus SOMEWHERE and because of our full backs they look for the space they leave behind. It's why klopp has focused the midfield in the way he has and why we have 3 of th best 1v1 defenders in the league.

He needs to get tighter to stop crosses at times and if Henderson isn't on the pitch we need to consider wijnaldum or milner on that side in certain games. Other than city, hopefully the next run of fixtures will give us a chance to tighten up a bit
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5639 on: October 18, 2020, 09:41:17 am »
He already is. People calling his defending "shocking" when he's been part of the back four of the best team in the world need to reevaluate things.

Our strengths can sometimes be a weakness. Pressing high up the pitch, having two incredibly attacking full backs and having forwards who have a degree of free license to roam at times.

Teams have to focus SOMEWHERE and because of our full backs they look for the space they leave behind. It's why klopp has focused the midfield in the way he has and why we have 3 of th best 1v1 defenders in the league.

He needs to get tighter to stop crosses at times and if Henderson isn't on the pitch we need to consider wijnaldum or milner on that side in certain games. Other than city, hopefully the next run of fixtures will give us a chance to tighten up a bit
Well said.

People seem to have very short memories, and also seem to lack an understanding of what Klopp asks the players to do.
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