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Re: Watches
« Reply #1360 on: December 19, 2017, 12:44:05 am »
Ffs all that and the images didn't work

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« Reply #1361 on: December 19, 2017, 01:02:07 am »
You've linked the shortened links to the images, not the source image name, which will end in mypicture.jpg etc.

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Re: Watches
« Reply #1362 on: December 19, 2017, 03:38:00 am »
IWC for me every day and of the week and weekends

I love their pilots watches and are very understated, but it’s all opinions and the only one that matters is yours
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Re: Watches
« Reply #1363 on: December 19, 2017, 07:11:57 am »
The Tag for me. Normally I wouldn’t buy a Tag but I do like the history of the Monaco, I also find that IWC quite boring to look at.
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Re: Watches
« Reply #1364 on: December 19, 2017, 10:02:26 am »
Personally the IWC for me - but it's more my style of watch i like

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« Reply #1365 on: December 19, 2017, 12:03:44 pm »
Have a TAG Monaco and also IWC Portofino, both lovely watches...have to say the Monaco gets noticed a lot more then the Portofino but I love them both. 
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Re: Watches
« Reply #1366 on: December 19, 2017, 06:11:54 pm »
those high end watches id rather buy second hand anyway. so i dont mind a few scrapes, but most people keep them as drawer queens anyway. most people are very careful with their high end watches hence theres no noticeable marks on them. anyway what im trying to say is buy used, wear for a couple of years and sell and get your money back or even more because the good ones appreciate.

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Re: Watches
« Reply #1367 on: December 20, 2017, 04:06:11 pm »
So glad Ive stumbled on this page when I have. I guess I have a passion for watches having worn one everyday since the age of about 6 when I had a teenage mutant turtles flip watch. I'm currently sporting an omega seamaster planet ocean on an orange rubber strap. It was my first "luxury" watch which I got on a crippling finance agreement when I thought I needed to impress people in my mid 20s. I'm still in love with it and don't regret my purchase at all looking back, still wear it every day.



It's been a fair few years gone and my next purchase will be in January most likely. I'm torn between two options.

Option 1 is a tag heuer Monaco Le Mans 24. It was released in 2011-2012 ish as a "limited edition." I first saw this in Bicester village about 18 months ago and didn't take the plunge, this month I went back to collect it, only to find it had been scratched to shit by the thousands of people who had tried it on in the store since I saw it last. TH are sending an A1 example over from Switzerland as they claim to only have one piece left that is unworn.  I smell bullshit here because tag sales people seem to me like they'll say anything to sell a watch. I say limited edition in quotes because I believe there were about 1500 made in this colour combination, although there are no official numbers. Not sure if that makes it limited edition, rather just a discontinued model. It's still pretty awesome to look at although I'd imagine some experts will claim it's a lot to pay for the hardware, albeit in quite a pretty looking design.



I was in Zurich this weekend and tried on an IWC Portuguese chrono classic for the first time. The latest version has a navy blue face but the one I want is the slightly older black face model which is now also discontinued. It has an in-house iwc movement and a 42mm diameter which is good for me as I have quite thin wrists. The Portuguese is a classic looking watch and makes the Monaco look like a toy in comparison, both have a black Aligaitor strap. I get the impression (and may be mistaken) that IWC is a better brand for the purist but there's something about the square bezel of the Monaco 24 which makes me not want to pass on it again. The other thing is that the iwc is almost 50% more expensive than the tag, however a local Rolex specialist told me that the tag was way overpriced for what it is. But rolexes are ugly so who cares what he says.




There are some knowledgable people on here so I'd like to get some of your thoughts on which you would prefer of the two and why. It's a big decision for me and I'm often led by impulse so I would appreciate any advice.

Cheers

Has to be the IWC.
Most people will know the tag but people really into their watches will know IWC is a high quality watch.
Tags are a little common as well.

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Re: Watches
« Reply #1368 on: December 27, 2017, 12:51:10 am »
Thanks all. Totally agree the iwc wins. Nice of you all to chip in.

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Re: Watches
« Reply #1369 on: December 27, 2017, 09:10:21 pm »
That's the ugliest Monaco I've ever seen.
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Re: Watches
« Reply #1370 on: December 27, 2017, 09:19:43 pm »
That's the ugliest Monaco I've ever seen.

Brutal lol

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« Reply #1371 on: December 28, 2017, 11:40:22 am »
That's the ugliest Monaco I've ever seen.

Unless its a blue-face then its not a Monaco :-)
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Re: Watches
« Reply #1372 on: December 30, 2017, 11:29:56 pm »
That's the ugliest Monaco I've ever seen.

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Re: Watches
« Reply #1373 on: January 2, 2018, 12:37:04 pm »
Any of you watch guys come across these watches and whether they are worth the price?

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Re: Watches
« Reply #1374 on: January 2, 2018, 03:29:05 pm »
Any of you watch guys come across these watches and whether they are worth the price?

https://www.recwatches.com/collections/901


Never heard of them. They're using Miyota movements which, whilst pretty bullet proof, are known as being towards the cheaper end of auto movements.

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« Reply #1375 on: January 3, 2018, 12:34:13 pm »
Never heard of them. They're using Miyota movements which, whilst pretty bullet proof, are known as being towards the cheaper end of auto movements.

So not an investment then?
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Re: Watches
« Reply #1376 on: January 3, 2018, 12:52:53 pm »
Are you looking to buy a watch for an investment or for pleasure?

If you're after an investment, do your research. Very few modern watches will appreciate in value, especially if bought new. If I was looking for an investment piece I'd probably look at a second-hand Rolex.

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« Reply #1377 on: January 15, 2018, 08:23:02 pm »
Right my lad wants a watch. He's all Armani stuff. He's been offered a watch with massive scratches on the face or he can get a AR0396 classic.

I am trying to push him to a good investment for him, he's got money invested so about £300 I'll allow.

Any offers I'll show him. He's skinny so no huge faces and personally a leather straps but he's a twat so a metal one for his slim wrists.

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« Reply #1378 on: January 16, 2018, 10:23:34 am »

Right my lad wants a watch. He's all Armani stuff. He's been offered a watch with massive scratches on the face or he can get a AR0396 classic.


I am trying to push him to a good investment for him, he's got money invested so about £300 I'll allow.


Any offers I'll show him. He's skinny so no huge faces and personally a leather straps but he's a twat so a metal one for his slim wrists.


Any Armani watch when second hand will cost a fraction of its purchase price because ultimately they're just cheap watches branded with an Armani logo. I wouldn't be surprised if it's Fossil that make them. Basically, don't think that a quartz Armani watch is an investment - you'll never get your money back.

If he's serious about wanting a decent auto for around £300, look at Seiko or Orient. Both offer in-house movements (watch internals) and have a good history in watch-making (Seiko more so than Orient).

The Seiko Cocktail Time SARB065 is a lovely dress watch with lovely detail on the dial that you won't get on a fashion watch. The Seiko SKX007 is a much-loved, bullet-proof diver which he might like.

Ultimately though, mate, if he's after an Armani, Michael Kors, Fossil, Skagen etc. etc., they're all much of a muchness and cater towards people who are more 'brand driven' rather than 'quality driven'  You might find he gets into his watches a bit when he's older but in the short term, I'd be inclined to let him buy what he wants is he's not interested in a Seiko or  similar brand.

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« Reply #1379 on: January 16, 2018, 01:23:14 pm »
Cheers chaps, will see if i can turn his head.

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« Reply #1380 on: January 16, 2018, 06:29:41 pm »
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Re: Watches
« Reply #1381 on: January 26, 2018, 10:34:38 pm »
Went into Goldsmith Rolex today to get a Submariner and they didn't have any(new or pre owned)

Have waiting list but wouldn't put me on it as list too long.

Seems to me they must be a shortage of these watches.

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Re: Watches
« Reply #1382 on: January 27, 2018, 09:01:10 am »
Picking this up today:



It’s part of my inheritance from my dad (he’s been off this planet 35 years). But the silly plonker managed to pull the crown and thread out just before he died. I’ve put off getting it fixed for years due to the prohibitive cost (relative to the watch’s value) but in a place where I can afford it without worrying now.

Fair play to Omega, they have only charged a standard service fee plus a nominal charge. Can’t wait to start wearing it at last.

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« Reply #1383 on: January 27, 2018, 06:18:32 pm »
Went into Goldsmith Rolex today to get a Submariner and they didn't have any(new or pre owned)

Have waiting list but wouldn't put me on it as list too long.

Seems to me they must be a shortage of these watches.

Rolex have done their usual end of year fuck you. When we bought my sons Rolex last year all the dealers were waiting on at least 100 subs. I should have bought the submariner for him, but he wanted the Air King. They were willing to know off 10% for th sub as we bought 2.

If it’s what you want it is defo worth waiting for. Also Rolex have fucked off the smaller dealers and gone with limited boutiques in the uk.

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Re: Watches
« Reply #1384 on: January 29, 2018, 08:58:18 am »
Picking this up today:



It’s part of my inheritance from my dad (he’s been off this planet 35 years). But the silly plonker managed to pull the crown and thread out just before he died. I’ve put off getting it fixed for years due to the prohibitive cost (relative to the watch’s value) but in a place where I can afford it without worrying now.

Fair play to Omega, they have only charged a standard service fee plus a nominal charge. Can’t wait to start wearing it at last.
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« Reply #1385 on: January 29, 2018, 09:30:43 am »
after some advice please from some experts who clearly reside in this thread!

I have been guardian of the watch in the attached photo for a couple of years and Lfsea's post made me go find it as it looked similar.

The watch was given to my Granddad (never met him) for his 25th wedding anniversary in 1960

It doesn't hold any significant emotional attachment for me but i would like to know about the quality of the watch and whether it is worth me paying to have it serviced and put back into working order

Any advice greatly appreciated, cheers

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« Reply #1386 on: January 29, 2018, 11:41:42 am »
after some advice please from some experts who clearly reside in this thread!

I have been guardian of the watch in the attached photo for a couple of years and Lfsea's post made me go find it as it looked similar.

The watch was given to my Granddad (never met him) for his 25th wedding anniversary in 1960

It doesn't hold any significant emotional attachment for me but i would like to know about the quality of the watch and whether it is worth me paying to have it serviced and put back into working order

Any advice greatly appreciated, cheers

Does it have a see through caseback?

Could be this model - Omega Seamaster Ref. 2964 vintage wristwatch, circa 1958

I would definitely consider taking it to an authorised dealer.
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« Reply #1387 on: January 29, 2018, 12:05:32 pm »
Does it have a see through caseback?

Could be this model - Omega Seamaster Ref. 2964 vintage wristwatch, circa 1958

I would definitely consider taking it to an authorised dealer.

thanks for the reply - appreciate any guidance on it

no the back is solid. looks pretty scruffy on the back to be honest. i can see a stamp on the edge which i have tried to get a zoomed in picture of if that helps identify what the watch is. looks to be a 37?


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« Reply #1388 on: January 29, 2018, 01:09:38 pm »
Pretty sure that will turn out to be a 375 hallmark which is the 9 karat gold standard mark.

that would make sense - good shout

any views on potential value of the watch?

IE worth exploring a service and a tidy up do you think?

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« Reply #1389 on: January 30, 2018, 12:33:13 am »
Picking this up today:



It’s part of my inheritance from my dad (he’s been off this planet 35 years). But the silly plonker managed to pull the crown and thread out just before he died. I’ve put off getting it fixed for years due to the prohibitive cost (relative to the watch’s value) but in a place where I can afford it without worrying now.

Fair play to Omega, they have only charged a standard service fee plus a nominal charge. Can’t wait to start wearing it at last.

That’s a gorgeous vintage seamaster - a watch you can be proud of wearing and handing on to the next generation. Omega offer wonderful value in the vintage market. It’s a brand I love along with Rolex. Real assets if bought at that right price.

Experiment with straps! Can really change the look of the watch.
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« Reply #1390 on: January 30, 2018, 12:41:11 am »
after some advice please from some experts who clearly reside in this thread!

I have been guardian of the watch in the attached photo for a couple of years and Lfsea's post made me go find it as it looked similar.

The watch was given to my Granddad (never met him) for his 25th wedding anniversary in 1960

It doesn't hold any significant emotional attachment for me but i would like to know about the quality of the watch and whether it is worth me paying to have it serviced and put back into working order

Any advice greatly appreciated, cheers

A lovely watch (another vintage seamaster on this thread). First thing is if it has sentimental value then it’s not about the money and you should certainly get it serviced.

But if money is an issue and in any normal circumstance ... my advice would be to balance the current value of the watch with servicing costs. You will probably find that getting it serviced by Omega will cost more than the watch itself (I estimate a non functioning seamaster that is small in size [ this looks like 34mm which isn’t a popular size right now; 36mm uowards commands greater value for men’s watches] is worth around £350 tops] ... I don’t have too much experience finding independent watch servicers ... but I would budget £100 and take it to a trusted independ watchmaker with experience servicing vintage omenga movements. Do a bit of research online, maybe post on a specialist watch forum with a dedicated omega or watch servicing section to get recommendations ... or you maybe find someone competent through the British horological institute.

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #1391 on: January 30, 2018, 12:52:29 am »

Any Armani watch when second hand will cost a fraction of its purchase price because ultimately they're just cheap watches branded with an Armani logo. I wouldn't be surprised if it's Fossil that make them. Basically, don't think that a quartz Armani watch is an investment - you'll never get your money back.

If he's serious about wanting a decent auto for around £300, look at Seiko or Orient. Both offer in-house movements (watch internals) and have a good history in watch-making (Seiko more so than Orient).

The Seiko Cocktail Time SARB065 is a lovely dress watch with lovely detail on the dial that you won't get on a fashion watch. The Seiko SKX007 is a much-loved, bullet-proof diver which he might like.

Ultimately though, mate, if he's after an Armani, Michael Kors, Fossil, Skagen etc. etc., they're all much of a muchness and cater towards people who are more 'brand driven' rather than 'quality driven'  You might find he gets into his watches a bit when he's older but in the short term, I'd be inclined to let him buy what he wants is he's not interested in a Seiko or  similar brand.

Some excellent advice here. You should probably stay away from quartz fashion  watches.

Your son may develop a deep passion for watches if you make a quality first purchase. I’d definitely recommend as a first timepiece a robust automatic mechanical watch from a reputed watch brand.

Can’t go wrong with Seiko. For a little bit more Hamilton is a superb Swiss watch brand that is respected by watch enthusiasts (as is Seiko).

A bullet proof first watch purchase with great resale is a Seiko Skx.

Or go for a Hamilton Khaki field if you want something a bit more military and smart on a strap. Also a bullet prooof first watch purchase.

Both of these pieces are iconic and been worn by famous movie and Tv stars. So great first choices.

If the budget is a bit tighter, for £125 the Seiko sea urchin / snzf is a great young mans first watch. It looks like the Rolex submariner. It has a see through case back too, which is a marvel for many people getting their first proper watch. You get to see all mechanical movement doing its thing. If he wears this for years, works hard and has a good career, I can bet this will be a gateway watch to buying a Rolex submariner one day (like fordy!)

All great choices that could start a love affair with watches. It’s a great pastime where you meet some lovely people, and a great geeky conversation subject at parties :) nothing better than meeting a watch geek at a party! Lol ... Hope this helps.
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« Reply #1392 on: January 31, 2018, 08:18:39 am »
That’s a gorgeous vintage seamaster - a watch you can be proud of wearing and handing on to the next generation. Omega offer wonderful value in the vintage market. It’s a brand I love along with Rolex. Real assets if bought at that right price.

Experiment with straps! Can really change the look of the watch.
Really? For me Omega and Rolex could be from two different planets. Possibly because of there more recent (last 25 years) associations but Rolex comes across as far more brash and "look at me, I've made it" as opposed to Omegas, which I find much more understated. Perhaps its just my personal biases!

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« Reply #1393 on: January 31, 2018, 12:10:14 pm »
Really? For me Omega and Rolex could be from two different planets. Possibly because of there more recent (last 25 years) associations but Rolex comes across as far more brash and "look at me, I've made it" as opposed to Omegas, which I find much more understated. Perhaps its just my personal biases!

Possibly because many who made fast money during the IT hype in the late 90's as well as on property in the 00's all went for Rolex Subs. I have a Sub but that's my late father's watch and I wear it everyday to have him with me so to speak not to appear like I made it.

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« Reply #1394 on: February 1, 2018, 12:26:37 am »
Really? For me Omega and Rolex could be from two different planets. Possibly because of there more recent (last 25 years) associations but Rolex comes across as far more brash and "look at me, I've made it" as opposed to Omegas, which I find much more understated. Perhaps its just my personal biases!

They both make beautiful watches and steeped in history. Don’t listen to all the nonsense, snobbery and fanboy stuff. I could bang on all day about  beautiful vintage omega and Rolex watches.

I recently acquired the most beautiful little Omega vintage watch a few months ago. I’m now on the search for a well priced vintage Rolex datejust. I was messaging with fordy a few days ago about this. Great value in the vintage market but you have to be so careful and take your time. A lot of franken watches, redials, fakes, etc. But if you take your time and buy from good sources you can get dreamy pieces. I was watching a video about a steel datejust with a fluted bezel and stunning linen dial and fell in love. On a premium leather strap (I bought a lovely one from an Italian company called Colareb - getting a lot of attention this company). Does it get better?
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« Reply #1395 on: February 1, 2018, 12:31:24 am »
Possibly because many who made fast money during the IT hype in the late 90's as well as on property in the 00's all went for Rolex Subs. I have a Sub but that's my late father's watch and I wear it everyday to have him with me so to speak not to appear like I made it.

I can completely relate to that mae. You’ll like this story ...

I met with a very sweet friend of my fiancé a few weeks back  - she was wearing an old gold plated quartz Seiko on a green suede strap. I was like “let’s have a look at that”. She shared with me that it was her grandfathers watch and she put it on a new strap, and it made her feel closer to her grandfather. Stylish lass - she really pulled it off. Cheap watch, but the sentimental value and story was there. Money can’t buy style and class.
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Re: Watches
« Reply #1396 on: February 1, 2018, 11:53:21 am »
Possibly because many who made fast money during the IT hype in the late 90's as well as on property in the 00's all went for Rolex Subs. I have a Sub but that's my late father's watch and I wear it everyday to have him with me so to speak not to appear like I made it.
Yup, that's it. Though that went back to the mid to late 80s - when I arrived in the workplace, it was already happening.

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Re: Watches
« Reply #1397 on: February 1, 2018, 03:03:59 pm »
I can completely relate to that mae. You’ll like this story ...

I met with a very sweet friend of my fiancé a few weeks back  - she was wearing an old gold plated quartz Seiko on a green suede strap. I was like “let’s have a look at that”. She shared with me that it was her grandfathers watch and she put it on a new strap, and it made her feel closer to her grandfather. Stylish lass - she really pulled it off. Cheap watch, but the sentimental value and story was there. Money can’t buy style and class.

Precisely! Love that story mate! :thumbup

Yup, that's it. Though that went back to the mid to late 80s - when I arrived in the workplace, it was already happening.

You're an older fart than I am then. ;) But you're right; Gordon Gekko and the Wall Street (movie) disciples started the hype I guess...  :nirnir

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Re: Watches
« Reply #1398 on: February 1, 2018, 03:41:27 pm »
Bought myself a nice little vintage Seiko diver today. Won't send pics until it arrives as I've also bought a lovely strap which should go nicely. The watch itself is a Seiko 6309-7290 but with a replacement, vintage dial. Not overly arsed about the fact that it's got a non-stock dial as I was after a vintage look and this fits perfectly with what I was after.

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Re: Watches
« Reply #1399 on: February 1, 2018, 04:13:09 pm »
I can completely relate to that mae. You’ll like this story ...

I met with a very sweet friend of my fiancé a few weeks back  - she was wearing an old gold plated quartz Seiko on a green suede strap. I was like “let’s have a look at that”. She shared with me that it was her grandfathers watch and she put it on a new strap, and it made her feel closer to her grandfather. Stylish lass - she really pulled it off. Cheap watch, but the sentimental value and story was there. Money can’t buy style and class.

wow, you moved quick, I admire your style