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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27600 on: November 10, 2022, 07:23:55 am »
Anyone else getting some reverb on the shows this week or just me?
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Not just you.

As I've said before, the Full English is just the base upon which the Scots/Welsh/NI have improved upon. Sorry but the Full English is the worst of the British breakfasts.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27601 on: November 10, 2022, 07:49:56 am »
That Derby fan previewing the game was great.

And great video with Virgil and Joel and Chris Best. Love stuff like that.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheAnfieldWrap/status/1590287047788761088
Lovely start to the day watching that.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27602 on: November 10, 2022, 11:45:00 pm »
New one to Sean's absolute mad pronunciations of names in this week's review.
Fucking Do-ak.

Even worse than Ori-ji for Divock
Or Neil saying Hee-sus for Jesus

Absolutely mad  ;D

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27603 on: November 11, 2022, 04:45:27 pm »
Live podcasting can be visceral and seat-of-your-pants entertainment…but I’m surprised with the editorial decision to keep the sound of Phil dying on this week’s Friday Show… #LestWeForget

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« Reply #27604 on: November 11, 2022, 05:17:33 pm »
Live podcasting can be visceral and seat-of-your-pants entertainment…but I’m surprised with the editorial decision to keep the sound of Phil dying on this week’s Friday Show… #LestWeForget

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27605 on: November 11, 2022, 06:19:27 pm »
New one to Sean's absolute mad pronunciations of names in this week's review.
Fucking Do-ak.

Even worse than Ori-ji for Divock
Or Neil saying Hee-sus for Jesus

Absolutely mad  ;D

Add Yota and Car Var Low to that as well  :D

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27606 on: November 13, 2022, 01:14:47 pm »
An interview with Gareth on FSG sale.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg090vzTk9M


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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27607 on: November 13, 2022, 02:09:36 pm »
Is app working for folk? It’s saying I’m not subscribed. Just checking before I look into it. I might need to update my banking

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27608 on: November 13, 2022, 02:13:21 pm »
Is app working for folk? It’s saying I’m not subscribed. Just checking before I look into it. I might need to update my banking

That happens all the time to me, and I think others, but then gets fixed. 

Mine is currently ok though
As I've said before, the Full English is just the base upon which the Scots/Welsh/NI have improved upon. Sorry but the Full English is the worst of the British breakfasts.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27609 on: November 13, 2022, 02:48:00 pm »
That happens all the time to me, and I think others, but then gets fixed. 

Mine is currently ok though
Thanks. I’ll give it a few hours

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27610 on: November 13, 2022, 04:53:49 pm »
Tremendous end to the Pink…
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27611 on: November 14, 2022, 10:20:23 am »
Has the review been released yet? Not sure if it's my feed or not

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27612 on: November 14, 2022, 10:31:38 am »
Has the review been released yet? Not sure if it's my feed or not

No, not yet. It used to come out on Tuesday's but I think they were releasing it early due to the hectic schedule, which has subsided a bit now.
As I've said before, the Full English is just the base upon which the Scots/Welsh/NI have improved upon. Sorry but the Full English is the worst of the British breakfasts.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27613 on: November 14, 2022, 10:59:04 am »
Shame, I find myself looking forward to it more than any other show and I sometimes find that I'm kind of over Saturdays game by Tuesday. Obviously that's just me though and other people prefer other shows etc.

And the nature of the review of course means the contributers need time to rewatch etc

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« Reply #27614 on: November 14, 2022, 12:24:32 pm »
Shame, I find myself looking forward to it more than any other show and I sometimes find that I'm kind of over Saturdays game by Tuesday. Obviously that's just me though and other people prefer other shows etc.

And the nature of the review of course means the contributers need time to rewatch etc

And itssss liiiive.

(Or available in your feed if you prefer)

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27615 on: November 14, 2022, 05:13:07 pm »
Literally about five minutes later   ;D belter too. As brilliant as they adapted to zoom pods, they always flow better with all three back in the studio.

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« Reply #27616 on: November 14, 2022, 06:50:39 pm »
Tremendous end to the Pink…
Bravo!

Too true. A great song sung exceptionally well !

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27617 on: November 14, 2022, 07:02:23 pm »
FYI Irish Reds, they’ve had to cancel the TAW Live dates unfortunately.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27618 on: November 15, 2022, 06:16:34 am »
Klopp documentary looks like it'll be great. But for those that only subscribe to podcasts, is it being made available as audio too?

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« Reply #27619 on: November 15, 2022, 11:17:55 am »
Klopp documentary looks like it'll be great. But for those that only subscribe to podcasts, is it being made available as audio too?

Wondered the same thing as I don't have a video sub either.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27620 on: November 15, 2022, 01:40:36 pm »
Sponsored by Erdinger so maybe a free one

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First one is free, the rest on the premium video sub or youtube memebership.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27621 on: November 15, 2022, 06:39:12 pm »
Good to have Paul Senior back in the mix.

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« Reply #27622 on: November 15, 2022, 08:17:27 pm »
Sponsored by Erdinger so maybe a free one

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« Reply #27624 on: November 17, 2022, 08:38:30 am »
Listening to the Gutter, I'm once again agreeing most with Gutmann - he's frequently the only one trying to raise the point of financial doping and how it basically renders the sporting side nearly meaningless. So many seem to keep missing this point and are focusing on where the money is coming from, which is certainly understandable to an extent. But in doing so they fail to address the fact that clubs simply having unearned money poured in and gaining success from that, basically renders the idea of sporting achievement and earning success redundant.

I don't want Liverpool to have an owner who's simply pumping their money in non-stop, as I still want us to mostly live within our means and do it the right way. FSG have mostly been very good, but they could've gone the extra mile a few times, especially while they've fattened up their own asset using the club's profits to improve the infrastructure. If we suddenly just start spending with a blank cheque, out of kilter with how we're actually run and what we earn, then even though we are a very big club, it would still feel hollow to me. Basically, as I think Neil Docking said, it would be nicest to have an FSG+ type owner.

What I could do with less of is loudly trotting out the "we are a superclub" line once again. Yes, we are one of the big boys when it comes to wages (though in reality there's no chance we're higher than the fourth highest wage bill in our own league), but net spend is still way, way low compared to any other top six side (or Newcastle or Everton) over the past three and a half years. I realise net spend is only one element of it, but it's still a very big element. Simply calling us a superclub feels like doing some of the whataboutery rival fanbases engage in for them. It's not a myth or bullshit to say we spend low compared to a lot of rivals (even Arsenal and Spurs in recent years) and just feels deliberately contrarian to act as though we spend on a par with, or outgun, pretty much everyone else.
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« Reply #27625 on: November 17, 2022, 02:39:55 pm »
Listening to the Gutter, I'm once again agreeing most with Gutmann - he's frequently the only one trying to raise the point of financial doping and how it basically renders the sporting side nearly meaningless. So many seem to keep missing this point and are focusing on where the money is coming from, which is certainly understandable to an extent. But in doing so they fail to address the fact that clubs simply having unearned money poured in and gaining success from that, basically renders the idea of sporting achievement and earning success redundant.

I don't want Liverpool to have an owner who's simply pumping their money in non-stop, as I still want us to mostly live within our means and do it the right way. FSG have mostly been very good, but they could've gone the extra mile a few times, especially while they've fattened up their own asset using the club's profits to improve the infrastructure. If we suddenly just start spending with a blank cheque, out of kilter with how we're actually run and what we earn, then even though we are a very big club, it would still feel hollow to me. Basically, as I think Neil Docking said, it would be nicest to have an FSG+ type owner.

What I could do with less of is loudly trotting out the "we are a superclub" line once again. Yes, we are one of the big boys when it comes to wages (though in reality there's no chance we're higher than the fourth highest wage bill in our own league), but net spend is still way, way low compared to any other top six side (or Newcastle or Everton) over the past three and a half years. I realise net spend is only one element of it, but it's still a very big element. Simply calling us a superclub feels like doing some of the whataboutery rival fanbases engage in for them. It's not a myth or bullshit to say we spend low compared to a lot of rivals (even Arsenal and Spurs in recent years) and just feels deliberately contrarian to act as though we spend on a par with, or outgun, pretty much everyone else.

You could do without them correctly pointing out that (using your words here) the team who has at least the fourth highest wage bill in (using my words here) by far and away the biggest domestic league in the world's biggest sport is a super club? Come on now. You can't expect everyone on this podcast to just parrot exactly what you want them to say.

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« Reply #27626 on: November 17, 2022, 04:26:51 pm »

FSG have mostly been very good, but they could've gone the extra mile a few times, especially while they've fattened up their own asset using the club's profits to improve the infrastructure.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27627 on: November 17, 2022, 08:38:05 pm »
Gutmann is a national treasure.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27628 on: November 20, 2022, 12:27:09 pm »
Paul Amann spoke superbly …

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« Reply #27629 on: November 21, 2022, 12:25:55 am »
Very informative takeover podcast with Ben from CBS sport. Very good for the layman about what’s what in these kinds of deals

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« Reply #27630 on: November 21, 2022, 06:58:53 pm »
Listening to the Gutter, I'm once again agreeing most with Gutmann - he's frequently the only one trying to raise the point of financial doping and how it basically renders the sporting side nearly meaningless. So many seem to keep missing this point and are focusing on where the money is coming from, which is certainly understandable to an extent. But in doing so they fail to address the fact that clubs simply having unearned money poured in and gaining success from that, basically renders the idea of sporting achievement and earning success redundant.

I don't want Liverpool to have an owner who's simply pumping their money in non-stop, as I still want us to mostly live within our means and do it the right way. FSG have mostly been very good, but they could've gone the extra mile a few times, especially while they've fattened up their own asset using the club's profits to improve the infrastructure. If we suddenly just start spending with a blank cheque, out of kilter with how we're actually run and what we earn, then even though we are a very big club, it would still feel hollow to me. Basically, as I think Neil Docking said, it would be nicest to have an FSG+ type owner.

What I could do with less of is loudly trotting out the "we are a superclub" line once again. Yes, we are one of the big boys when it comes to wages (though in reality there's no chance we're higher than the fourth highest wage bill in our own league), but net spend is still way, way low compared to any other top six side (or Newcastle or Everton) over the past three and a half years. I realise net spend is only one element of it, but it's still a very big element. Simply calling us a superclub feels like doing some of the whataboutery rival fanbases engage in for them. It's not a myth or bullshit to say we spend low compared to a lot of rivals (even Arsenal and Spurs in recent years) and just feels deliberately contrarian to act as though we spend on a par with, or outgun, pretty much everyone else.
I agree with all of this. I haven't listened back but Neil said some strange things and you could even claim he was acting in a weird way. He was adamant that Liverpool are a superclub and at the same time it felt like he was using the fact that City are Champions League frauds (please let it continue, but if they keep spending big it is only a matter of time before they win their first) as some sort of argument that money isn't that important anyway. Obviously it isn't everything but no one's saying that. In my opinion, being a superclub these days means being able to buy whoever whenever. We aren't and while talk of net spend is often ridiculed it is still relevant. Also, Ferguson's United not being a dynasty because they didn't win enough European Cups is a bold claim.

I've been going and forth trying to sum up my thoughts correctly, but I haven't really been able to and this is a close as I get. I'm definitely not doing Neil justice with this short summary but it was the first time in a long while where he said things that I couldn't agree with and that to me just felt wrong. I am, however, like him, more worried than excited about the possibility of the club getting new owners. I fear there's a good chance we end up with something much worse than FSG if they choose to sell the club.

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« Reply #27631 on: November 21, 2022, 07:42:10 pm »
I agree with all of this. I haven't listened back but Neil said some strange things and you could even claim he was acting in a weird way. He was adamant that Liverpool are a superclub and at the same time it felt like he was using the fact that City are Champions League frauds (please let it continue, but if they keep spending big it is only a matter of time before they win their first) as some sort of argument that money isn't that important anyway. Obviously it isn't everything but no one's saying that. In my opinion, being a superclub these days means being able to buy whoever whenever. We aren't and while talk of net spend is often ridiculed it is still relevant. Also, Ferguson's United not being a dynasty because they didn't win enough European Cups is a bold claim.

I've been going and forth trying to sum up my thoughts correctly, but I haven't really been able to and this is a close as I get. I'm definitely not doing Neil justice with this short summary but it was the first time in a long while where he said things that I couldn't agree with and that to me just felt wrong. I am, however, like him, more worried than excited about the possibility of the club getting new owners. I fear there's a good chance we end up with something much worse than FSG if they choose to sell the club.
If buying whoever whenever is your definition of a superclub, you probably need to spend a bit more time thinking. The only clubs that can keep doing as you suggest are sports washers and they are as far from being superclubs as it’s possible to be.

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« Reply #27633 on: November 24, 2022, 09:18:58 am »
You could do without them correctly pointing out that (using your words here) the team who has at least the fourth highest wage bill in (using my words here) by far and away the biggest domestic league in the world's biggest sport is a super club? Come on now. You can't expect everyone on this podcast to just parrot exactly what you want them to say.

Sorry, bit late to this as I haven't checked this page the past few days. I think it's fine to say that we are a superclub in terms of a lot of a lot of facets - worldwide fanbase, demand to see the team, brand recognition, how iconic the stadium is, financial turnover, success (both historical and recent).
As far as those parameters go, then yes, we are a superclub.

What I have a problem with, is saying it (like Neil Atkinson was in that context) as though we should just shut up about the rigged game  because we are a superclub and therefore can financially compete. Being a superclub in the sense that he was talking about is basically the domain of the financially doped petro clubs, and then Real Madrid and Man United. That's it. You could include Barcelona too, because they're still spending like crazy, but they're clearly spending money they don't really have. These are the only clubs that simply spend what they want and can be in the market for - to use a recent example - a Haaland. No one else can. And then using examples of us going big for Van Dijk and Alisson (nearly 5 years ago and at least partly funded by selling one of our best players) is, as I said before, misleading, and it's like doing the whataboutery of a City fan for them.

We are a very big, very well-run club, undoubtedly one of the big legacy brands of club football. If you mean 'superclub' in that way, then yes, we are one. But when it comes to transfers, even when it comes to wages, we aren't in the very top bracket. We're not even in the next bracket down from that since 2019.
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« Reply #27634 on: November 24, 2022, 09:25:31 am »
On a more positive note, I thought Neil's interview with Lijnders was fascinating and a brilliant listen. Huge credit both for getting him and for the interview itself - Pep was clearly into it and it was great to get some insight into his personality and philosophy.

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« Reply #27635 on: November 24, 2022, 11:03:21 am »
On a more positive note, I thought Neil's interview with Lijnders was fascinating and a brilliant listen. Huge credit both for getting him and for the interview itself - Pep was clearly into it and it was great to get some insight into his personality and philosophy.

Ruffled a few virigins feathers on social media.

The main criticism being that Lijnders shouldn't be giving interviews as it means Jude Bellingham might not want to sign for us..

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« Reply #27636 on: November 24, 2022, 11:07:21 am »
Ruffled a few virigins feathers on social media.

The main criticism being that Lijnders shouldn't be giving interviews as it means Jude Bellingham might not want to sign for us..

Is that actually happening? lol....such a weird take! If anything, I love hearing a coach care so much about the players individually

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« Reply #27637 on: November 24, 2022, 12:34:10 pm »
Ruffled a few virigins feathers on social media.

The main criticism being that Lijnders shouldn't be giving interviews as it means Jude Bellingham might not want to sign for us..
I picked this up this morning.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27638 on: November 25, 2022, 01:20:03 pm »
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #27639 on: November 25, 2022, 03:43:43 pm »
Sorry, bit late to this as I haven't checked this page the past few days. I think it's fine to say that we are a superclub in terms of a lot of a lot of facets - worldwide fanbase, demand to see the team, brand recognition, how iconic the stadium is, financial turnover, success (both historical and recent).
What I have a problem with, is saying it (like Neil Atkinson was in that context) as though we should just shut up about the rigged game  because we are a superclub and therefore can financially compete.
This is a complete misrepresentation of my position. I don't think we should shut up about it. And I think we should do something about it. And I think we are obviously a superclub. One that makes different choices to, say, Barcelona, but one nonetheless.