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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58560 on: November 10, 2018, 11:46:57 pm »
That Ukrainian promoter looks like what a child would draw if you told them to draw Steve Bruce
Jan Molby looks well.... :lmao
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58561 on: November 10, 2018, 11:47:16 pm »
No idea  ;D

Against the translator I reckon £19.95 would suffice

get them signed up for it, tell Bellew it'll be first fight at Bramley Moor, he'll be well up for it

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58562 on: November 10, 2018, 11:49:07 pm »
£5 down the drain.

Bellew did well. Was not impressed by Usyk apart from the brutal finish. He wont get his AJ fight because the Chisora/Whye winner will batter him
Hmm, I think he batters both of them especially Chisora. He'd also put Parker to sleep but against Joshua and Wilder I give him no chance.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58563 on: November 10, 2018, 11:49:53 pm »
Hmm, I think he batters both of them especially Chisora. He'd also put Parker to sleep but against Joshua and Wilder I give him no chance.

Rubbish, if AJ couldn't put Parker to sleep there's no chance Usyk does

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58564 on: November 10, 2018, 11:50:11 pm »
Fucking hell someone get a grip of Bellew. He is having a fucking threeway with Naz and a security guard on the way back to the dressing room.  :lmao :lmao

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58565 on: November 10, 2018, 11:50:45 pm »
Rubbish, if AJ couldn't put Parker to sleep there's no chance Usyk does

Possibly but it’d be a Different fight
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58566 on: November 10, 2018, 11:50:51 pm »
Bellew has never been good, he may have been the best of a poor bunch but he's nowhere near an elite fighter.

Maybe some have lowered the bar so far that his performances have been acceptable to them?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58567 on: November 10, 2018, 11:51:35 pm »
£5 down the drain.

Bellew did well. Was not impressed by Usyk apart from the brutal finish. He wont get his AJ fight because the Chisora/Whye winner will batter him

You're right that he's too open.  Bellew didn't have the tools to take advantage but the big punchers at HW will be too much for him.

I think he beats Whyte or Chisora though, probably the likes of Parker as well.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58568 on: November 10, 2018, 11:51:41 pm »
Fucking hell someone get a grip of Bellew. He is having a fucking threeway with Naz and a security guard on the way back to the dressing room.  :lmao :lmao
He should have been sent to see a doctor the minute he was knocked out,been an an embarrassment to British boxing this.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58569 on: November 10, 2018, 11:56:04 pm »
Rubbish, if AJ couldn't put Parker to sleep there's no chance Usyk does
He's tough but Whyte dropped him so wouldn't count out Usyk's chances.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58570 on: November 10, 2018, 11:57:28 pm »
He should have been sent to see a doctor the minute he was knocked out,been an an embarrassment to British boxing this.
Agree with this. How has he been allowed to carry on with no medical attention. He is clearly badly concussed.

There were some brutal finished on the undercard too.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58571 on: November 10, 2018, 11:57:35 pm »
Whyte's a much bigger puncher than Usyk and he still didn't knock him out. He'd beat Parker comprehensively on points but he wouldn't knock him out.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58572 on: November 10, 2018, 11:58:15 pm »
Definatley should have been withdrawn for closer examination after the fight. He was on a loop repeating himself and twice in the space of 10 seconds asked what round he had been beaten in.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58573 on: November 10, 2018, 11:59:46 pm »
£5 down the drain.

Bellew did well. Was not impressed by Usyk apart from the brutal finish. He wont get his AJ fight because the Chisora/Whye winner will batter him
Disagree. Usyk outpoints both handily. If you'll notice the pace Usyk set in this fight tonight. If he does that against either Chisora or Whyte, they'll be blowing out their arse by round 6. Usyk's BIG advantage in HW is his conditioning. Lots of big lads, but none are capable of lasting more than a few rounds at a hot pace.

Whyte's a much bigger puncher than Usyk and he still didn't knock him out. He'd beat Parker comprehensively on points but he wouldn't knock him out.
Whyte's technique is utter shit. Again, don't underestimate the power of a well timed power shot late in a fight against a tired fighter. What barely registers in round 6 turns a boxer into Amir Khan jelly legs in round 11.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58574 on: November 11, 2018, 12:03:00 am »
Usyk's hand speed and the cluster of punches he throws reminds me of Calzaghe and Roy Jones. I know its too early to put Usyk in that kind of territory but i think his style will cause the bigger men fits. The c*nt comes across unhinged as well which is good box office. He reminds me of a henchman out of the Hostel movies.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58575 on: November 11, 2018, 12:05:31 am »

Whyte's technique is utter shit. Again, don't underestimate the power of a well timed power shot late in a fight against a tired fighter. What barely registers in round 6 turns a boxer into Amir Khan jelly legs in round 11.

I think you've completely missed what I was saying. I'm not saying Usyk doesn't beat White, I'm saying he doesn't knock Parker out.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58576 on: November 11, 2018, 12:06:25 am »
Not trying to be Nigel Darage but he should learn how to speak English. It will only build his brand and bank more
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58577 on: November 11, 2018, 12:08:07 am »
I think you've completely missed what I was saying. I'm not saying Usyk doesn't beat White, I'm saying he doesn't knock Parker out.
Ah. I agree with that. Parker can take a shot. Usyk would beat him via fairly wide UD I think; Parker doesnt have much to trouble him with.


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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58578 on: November 11, 2018, 12:08:57 am »
Bellew has never been good, he may have been the best of a poor bunch but he's nowhere near an elite fighter.

Maybe some have lowered the bar so far that his performances have been acceptable to them?

Apologies but I have higher standards
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58579 on: November 11, 2018, 12:09:54 am »
Agree with this. How has he been allowed to carry on with no medical attention. He is clearly badly concussed.

There were some brutal finished on the undercard too.
100% right. Bellew would have trouble telling you what day of the week it was atm. So eager to do their interviews that they eschew the basics of ensuring a fighter is okay just so they can fill some more air time.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58580 on: November 11, 2018, 12:10:15 am »
Not trying to be Nigel Garage but he should learn how to speak English. It will only build his brand and bank more
he clearly does he’d just rather do it in his native tongue

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58581 on: November 11, 2018, 12:11:48 am »
Bellew has never been good, he may have been the best of a poor bunch but he's nowhere near an elite fighter.

Maybe some have lowered the bar so far that his performances have been acceptable to them?

Apologies but I have higher standards
I don't think anyone (outside of Nelson and Froch) ever thought Bellew was elite. He has eked the maximum from his talent and forged a nice career for himself. Hope he enjoys his retirement as he has earned it.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58582 on: November 11, 2018, 12:11:51 am »
100% right. Bellew would have trouble telling you what day of the week it was atm. So eager to do their interviews that they eschew the basics of ensuring a fighter is okay just so they can fill some more air time.

Yeah was clear as anything he was concussed there, crazy to not be checking him out.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58583 on: November 11, 2018, 12:13:15 am »
Yeah was clear as anything he was concussed there, crazy to not be checking him out.

Disgraceful to be honest, surely after the second time he asked what round it was and what punch he was knocked out by someone should've sussed he shouldn't be on TV.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58584 on: November 11, 2018, 01:10:02 am »
Yeah he reminded me of DC after his KO defeat to Jones in the UFC. He was a mess after the fight, impressive stuff from Usyk though.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58585 on: November 11, 2018, 07:20:01 am »
So glad Bellew got beat.

Apart from him being a bit of a gobshite, after every victory he had you had Evertonians claiming it as some sort of victory for their club.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58586 on: November 11, 2018, 08:08:10 am »
Bellew better than I thought , had it even on points even if not knocked out he would have lost on points the way it was going .
Can’t say I was impressed with Usyk to be honest.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58587 on: November 11, 2018, 09:54:37 am »
Brutal knockdown. Finnally Bellew gets smashed down.

However, have to admit Hearn managed him well and Bellew improved massively.


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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58588 on: November 11, 2018, 10:02:28 am »
By the end it was hard to tell if bellew wanted to fight Usyk or fuck him.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58589 on: November 11, 2018, 10:07:51 am »
By the end it was hard to tell if bellew wanted to fight Usyk or fuck him.

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It was a bit much

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58590 on: November 11, 2018, 10:29:51 am »
Yeah he reminded me of DC after his KO defeat to Jones in the UFC. He was a mess after the fight, impressive stuff from Usyk though.
That was weird to watch, DC didn't have a clue what happened. Same with Stipe Miocic after he got knocked out by DC. Joe Rogan actually lobbied to the UFC to stop interviewing fighters who had been brutally knocked out, they should apply that same rule in boxing. Bellew was seeing stars last night and they made him do a national interview for fucks sake

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58591 on: November 11, 2018, 10:47:48 am »
Bellew has never been good, he may have been the best of a poor bunch but he's nowhere near an elite fighter.

Maybe some have lowered the bar so far that his performances have been acceptable to them?

Apologies but I have higher standards

Bellew outboxed possibly the best cruiserweight of all time and a P4P top 3 fighter for 4 rounds, I'm no Bellew fan but the kid can box he just got tired.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58592 on: November 11, 2018, 10:56:27 am »
Can't deny Bellew's guts, he just cam up against a genuine world class fighter and came up short - no disgrace in that.

He should not be tempted with any comebacks though.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58593 on: November 11, 2018, 11:04:49 am »
Bellew outboxed possibly the best cruiserweight of all time and a P4P top 3 fighter for 4 rounds, I'm no Bellew fan but the kid can box he just got tired.

For me Usyk was boxing in second gear and as soon as he stepped up Bellew was outclassed then got knocked out with utter class.

Bellew wasn't in his league mate.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58594 on: November 11, 2018, 11:15:59 am »
Somebody get that Evertonian to a doctor!
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58595 on: November 11, 2018, 11:31:11 am »
Bellew outboxed possibly the best cruiserweight of all time and a P4P top 3 fighter for 4 rounds, I'm no Bellew fan but the kid can box he just got tired.

That's great mate but boxing matches take place over 12 rounds. Usyk was cautious for the first couple, only throwing ones and twos, then once he'd worked him out by the end of the third it was plain sailing.

Typical Evertonian though, 'but we won the first 3 rounds' ;D

Wonder when the DVD of that first 8 minutes will be out.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58596 on: November 11, 2018, 11:50:46 am »
That's great mate but boxing matches take place over 12 rounds. Usyk was cautious for the first couple, only throwing ones and twos, then once he'd worked him out by the end of the third it was plain sailing.

I'm a casual boxing fan and only watch the bigger fights but that was my take on it also.  Bellew started fairly well but it seemed pretty clear that Usyk had a plan to just work his way into the fight and was never in any danger.
The commentary was laughable, thankfully Paulie was there to try and add a bit of balance.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58597 on: November 11, 2018, 11:51:36 am »
That's great mate but boxing matches take place over 12 rounds. Usyk was cautious for the first couple, only throwing ones and twos, then once he'd worked him out by the end of the third it was plain sailing.

Typical Evertonian though, 'but we won the first 3 rounds' ;D

Wonder when the DVD of that first 8 minutes will be out.
Absolutely correct. Many superior fighters lose a couple of the early rounds to inferior opposition before working them out and winning with ease. That's exactly what happened last night. Bellew could fight Usyk 20 times and never come close to winning. McGregor looked 'competitive' with Mayweather for a few rounds FFS  ;D It means very little.

I'm a casual boxing fan and only watch the bigger fights but that was my take on it also.  Bellew started fairly well but it seemed pretty clear that Usyk had a plan to just work his way into the fight and was never in any danger.
The commentary was laughable, thankfully Paulie was there to try and add a bit of balance.
The commentary was embarrassing and they looked as sad as Martin Tyler when United lose at the end. Paulie solidifying his status as one of the best pundits around. Stepped in and gave an honest assessment when they rest were blowing smoke up our arses.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58598 on: November 11, 2018, 11:55:51 am »
Absolutely correct. Many superior fighters lose a couple of the early rounds to inferior opposition before working them out and winning with ease. That's exactly what happened last night. Bellew could fight Usyk 20 times and never come close to winning. McGregor looked 'competitive' with Mayweather for a few rounds FFS  ;D It means very little.
The commentary was embarrassing and they looked as sad as Martin Tyler when United lose at the end. Paulie solidifying his status as one of the best pundits around. Stepped in and gave an honest assessment when they rest were blowing smoke up our arses.
Case in point Canelo v Khan.

Canelo lost the first few rounds,but once he got the range and worked out Khan they was only going to be one outcome and it was devastating just like last nights fight with Usyk.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58599 on: November 11, 2018, 12:26:04 pm »
All valid points.

Usyk backed his engine to prevail, did very little early doors but got the finish which is what mattered. Highlight reel stoppage