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Very interesting....
It is, but it's shitbag retrospective reflection. They knew, they always knew, but they sucked it all up as the PL brand grew stronger with the influx of brilliant players.

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So..would we be wrong to expect the PL to follow suit as their rules regarding FFP are very similar?
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We all know the story with FIFA. And not that long ago the banned and disgraced ex-UEFA chief Platini was arrested on corruption charges as well. What makes people really believe that UEFA won't cave in here one way or another?

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This place and bluemoon are opposite ends of a spectrum right now.

City fans seem to believe they'll end up making lots of money out of this by some kind of weird logic like 2+2 = Carrot
On the other end, we have our lot thinking they'll end up in league 2 for an FFP breach.

I'd like to see the odds off either of those.

By my count, that's been said 0 times.

Ironic it's you being hyperbolic while trying to say people in the thread are overreacting

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Never underestimate how a bottomless pit of money and a bottomless pit of lawyers can get verdicts that have nothing to do with the facts.
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It is, but it's shitbag retrospective reflection. They knew, they always knew, but they sucked it all up as the PL brand grew stronger with the influx of brilliant players.

Certainly can't deny the truth in that post. It's a bit like the so called "procedure" over the fitness of certain individuals to become owners in the first place. It basically wasn't worth the paper it was written on. The likes of Hicks, Gillette, the Glazers and Abi Dhabi were never fit in the first place, but they're only interested in counting the cash.
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So, if City had to give up their titles, would the players have to give their medals back as well?

Imagine, giving the best years of your career for nothing - well other than being labelled as a financial cheat anyway. ;D

Imagine when they are old and grey. The grandchildren come round to see gramps, and good old Sergio, Raheem etc pull their medals out from the kitchen drawer.

Well kids, this one is from when we cheated other clubs out of four trophies one year. This one is from when we cheated the Scousers out of the title even though they got 97 points. Mind you, the bastards trounced us the following year. Anyway, yes kids, these are the famous tainted medals from the #TaintedTitlesYears. You must all be so proud...
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Many people have steadfastly maintained that Citys "achievements" could never be respected, much to the annoyance of City fans, but are fully vindicated now. Everything they've won in recent seasons will have a huge question mark and rightfully so.

I'm convinced they are still inflating their revenues.

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All their goals during this time should be chalked off as well so that Shaun Goater or someone remains their all time top scorer.

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Bring back Peter Swales I say.


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Anyway...


The question for city is ... how do you explain this away??

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To quote David Conn,

"For all the fury and belligerence of their response, the club has not explained away the impression and apparent evidence that they deceived European football’s governing body with their financial submissions, even while they were spending huge money to star in its glittering competition."

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Never underestimate how a bottomless pit of money and a bottomless pit of lawyers can get verdicts that have nothing to do with the facts.


The bottomless pot of money is all about showing Abu Dhabi in the best possible light though. It is about a PR exercise for an abhorrent regime. It is about using City as a positive that reflects well on Abu Dhabi. They have two options claim they have been the victim of a witch hunt retire gracefully and reappear in a more favourable scenario or air their dirty laundry in public.

For me it will be the former option.
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Time for the premier league to grow a pair and throw these cheating c*nts out
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Want nothing more than to see them do a Rangers/Juve.

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Big question here about the credibility of the English press. It took a German newspaper to uncover all this, so begs the question what the fuck were the English papers doing? Forget about the tabloid rags, I'm talking about your 'serious' broadsheets.

Too scared to 'rock the boat'? Weaklings the lot of them, too busy propping up fairytales like a now proven financially corrupt multi-billionaire club beating the likes of the, erm, mighty QPR.

The English press's claim to fame is a myth, independent my arse. Only David Conn pursued this with any vigour and he himself was a boyhood City fan for fuck sake.

While German sports press were doing an unbelievable job, we have to keep up with the likes of Hodgson's boyfriend Henry Winter as one of the peak writers of English football. Barrels being scraped indeed.


Pardon the imagery, but up till now the British television media like Sky have been like an old whore with red and blue manc c*ck in either hand.  They don't care who pays their rent as long as it gets paid.

Online and print based outlets are slightly different, as some seem to be in ADPR FC's pocket directly, whilst many others are just click bait hacks who know precious little about football, never mind the financing side of things.
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Want nothing more than to see them do a Rangers/Juve.
a Rangers not a juve tho

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Time for the premier league to grow a pair and throw these cheating c*nts out

If that happend City would be in League 2 as the EFL have changed their rules, so City would no longer go to the Championship if they were demoted in this way. ;D
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Big question here about the credibility of the English press. It took a German newspaper to uncover all this, so begs the question what the fuck were the English papers doing? Forget about the tabloid rags, I'm talking about your 'serious' broadsheets.

Too scared to 'rock the boat'? Weaklings the lot of them, too busy propping up fairytales like a now proven financially corrupt multi-billionaire club beating the likes of the, erm, mighty QPR.

The English press's claim to fame is a myth, independent my arse. Only David Conn pursued this with any vigour and he himself was a boyhood City fan for fuck sake.

While German sports press were doing an unbelievable job, we have to keep up with the likes of Hodgson's boyfriend Henry Winter as one of the peak writers of English football. Barrels being scraped indeed.


Totally agree, although to be fair to the press, the vast majority weren't that arsed with cheating in elections and spouting complete bollocks on sides of buses in order to win votes so they are at least being consistent.


I wondered yesterday if I should ask Stuart Brennan for a signed copy of his last article. Maybe I should wait for the one coming up.



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Pardon the imagery, but up till now the British television media like Sky have been like an old whore with red and blue manc c*ck in either hand.  They don't care who pays their rent as long as it gets paid.

Online and print based outlets are slightly different, as some seem to be in ADPR FC's pocket directly, whilst many others are just click bait hacks who know precious little about football, never mind the financing side of things.

Sounds like Cantona's skiing holiday

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Want nothing more than to see them do a Rangers/Juve.

To be honest, that should really happen.
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Pretty much what I said earlier.  Not just the money they spent but the attitude they had spending it made them a lot of enemies.  They don't have enough Range Rovers for all of them either.

As an aside, I imagine other football clubs will now be looking very closely at this.  Many at or near the top table will want this punishment to stick; and I imagine a number of clubs who have already been punished would be rightly pissed off to see City get off the hook, so the pressure will be on.
I'd imagine it's Uefa & the top European/Premier League clubs vs Man City & PSG on this.

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I have to thank UEFA. I haven't even seen Ms Spion yet, but this has been the best Valentine's Day ever.  :wellin

I wouldn't tell your Mrs that though. 😀
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That would not be proportional. And if they were to be stripped of the titles, the seasons should be nulled without a champion. Either way, the trophies and points were won on the field and even if the squad was assembled unfairly, they still had to go and win. I don't like the idea of changing history unless there's been unsportsmanlike offences (doping, fixing etc.)
There should however be squad restrictions (Reduced spots for non homegrown players) and decreased FFP leeway (amount of loss allowed over a period of time) for atleast a few years alongside a proportional fine. That's what FA should be looking to do.
Even from a UEFA standpoint, I find the 2 year ban a bit disproportional. I personally feel that they are starting high so that they can negotiate it to 1 yr and a reduced fine like they did with Milan.

What's the difference here? It has been called financial doping. They've broken rules established to prevent clubs from gaining advantages that are unearned. They've hidden, laundered and cheated their way round systems that all other clubs have to abide by. They wanted to fix the game so that they would have a ridiculously powerful squad, despite not filling their stadium and being inconsequential as a worldwide club. This is easily as bad as other forms of cheating.

I don't want those tainted titles, though, agreed. We'll earn them ourselves thanks. Just strike their name from the record. I don't really think the FA/PL have the balls for that though. It will be a fine and some irrelevant points deduction at best.

But no one will be able to ignore their cheating now. The English press have looked the other way for years, with occasional articles that were ignored by the mainstream as they lauded their achievements. Now it's there for everyone to talk about, and all their "achievements" are tainted.
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I wouldn't tell your Mrs that though. 😀

Oh, no. That's just between us on here.  ;)
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If they did get thrown out of the PL there would be a fire sale of their players.

Who would you have?

I can only think de bruyne, but he'd have to take a pay cut.
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Reports coming through of a premier league points deduction for City is imminent. 

Just on sky sports news
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Some useless c*nt on sky sports nearly in tears telling us man city have better lawyers.



I saw that as well. It was pathetic. How is this journalism?
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Meh, throw them out of the Premier League next season but don't deduct points from them this season. The media narrative will shift to being that our title was tainted seeing as we had no actual competition.

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Reports coming through of a premier league points deduction for City is imminent. 

Just on sky sports news

So we win the league on a technicality now. FFS.

Let it kick in next season.
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Reports coming through of a premier league points deduction for City is imminent. 

Just on sky sports news

Oh come on. Surely this can't get even better?  :lmao

Hopefully it kicks in next season so they start out with a minus figure.
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Meh, throw them out of the Premier League next season but don't deduct points from them this season. The media narrative will shift to being that our title was tainted seeing as we had no actual competition.

Ha we have already won it. The media are not tainting this one.

Also this has also confirmed number 20 for us next season.

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Reports coming through of a premier league points deduction for City is imminent. 

Just on sky sports news

A total waste of time *if* that's the only punishment domestically. It's utterly meaningless, they are playing for nothing and have too many points to go down. It's doing something without actually doing anything.

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What's the bets that if the PL does act it will be a points deduction on either this season or next. Which will be totally useless considering their ineligible to play in the CL anyway.
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Points deduction at this stage is pointless to be honest.

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So we win the league on a technicality now. FFS.

Let it kick in next season.

Agreed. Points deduction will mean fuck all this season.
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