Topic: Hicks calls for Parry's resignation

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Anfield fiasco: Tom Hicks could sink Liverpool
By Henry Winter
Last Updated: 1:28am BST 11/04/2008


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Tom Hicks must never be allowed to board the ferry across the Mersey because he would only rock the boat. Just when Rick Parry attempts to keep the good ship Liverpool steady through another storm, Hicks lumbers on and threatens to capsize it. Madness.

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In the dispute that escalated yesterday between Parry and Hicks, let us play spot the difference: Parry has Liverpool's best interests at heart while Hicks has Hicks's best interests at heart. Parry is a lifelong fan. Hicks is a businessman. Parry works hard to keep the club united and focused on reaching the Champions League final. Hicks picks fights. Spot which one you would want running your club.

   
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The word on Merseyside is that Hicks demanded Parry's resignation as a tit-for-tat against George Gillett, the other co-owner who had ticked off Ian Ayre, the club's commercial director much admired by Hicks, before Tuesday's Champions League vanquishing of Arsenal.

Parry seems to have been caught up in the crossfire between two Americans. It does need stating that Parry is not football's top-ranked chief executive. He has certainly made mistakes. Liverpool have been slow to develop their commercial potential, although that pre-dates Parry's arrival at Anfield from the Premier League (four European Cups in seven years should have generated more funds).

Parry has not always enjoyed the best relationship with Rafael Benitez and has courted ridicule by wearing a Liverpool tracksuit emblazoned with his initials. A chief executive's place is in the board-room, not the dressing-room. But if he occasionally fails to see eye-to-eye with Benitez, who can be awkward and appears still to hold a candle for Real Madrid, then Parry is not completely at fault. Sporting replica kit is unwise for an executive, but such vanity does provide material proof of Parry's deep affection for Liverpool.

Those cyberspace mischief-makers who inserted the claim that Parry is known as "Coco" on his Wikipedia entry are being slightly cruel. The real clown wears a Stetson. It is difficult to see what Parry has done wrong in the period since the Americans rode into town. He pleaded for Hicks and Gillett to give peace a chance. He has sided with Gillett, but then most sane souls around Anfield would.

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Parry cares about people at Anfield. When Steven Gerrard's autobiography (ghosted by this writer) had to be run by Liverpool, Parry read the criticism of him and Benitez during the Chelsea contract saga but did not ask for one word to be changed. He respected the captain's right to make comments, however unflattering they were towards him and the manager. Parry's stance contrasted with officials at some other clubs, who demanded that books by some of their players be amended.

Parry is a fan of Gerrard, just as he is a fan of all those driving Liverpool in the right direction. Hicks is getting in the way, and yesterday's fuel-on-the-fire antics hardly help. If he wants to dismiss Parry, then he should do it in the closed-season.

The mess highlights one reality: the sooner all football appreciates the dangers inherent in foreign ownership the better. If football ever contains more people like Hicks than Parry, then the game really will be heading to Hell in a debt-laden hand-cart
 

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[7Dalglish]

what nationality do you have to be to have a genuine reason to be a drug-addict?

Scottish if you like smack
Dutch/Jamaican if you like pot
American* if you like LSD
English if you like Ecstasy
Columbian if you like....

*Southern Californian hippy dude fits best

Didn't you know all this?

[Sinos]

Yes that's what Rawk is about. If you don't get your questions answered in a satisfactory manner, resort to abuse.

Very mature.

There were perfectly reasonable questions off of MANY RAWKites and he has avoided everyone of them. So IMO he deserve's everything he gets

[SoylentGreen]

oh fuck i like LSD so that means i have to become a yank??? I LOVE TOM HICKS!!!

[mazlo123]

As i said before this move from Hicks highlights his lack of Power and Control of the club.

Imagine the same situation in you place of work . . Your boss asks you to resign but doesn't have the authority to fire you.

Imagine how emasculating that would be for a man of Hicks background. 

Even if Parry were to resign(Which i don't think he will) its not like Hicks can appoint someone that will fight his corner because he doesn't have the authority.

IMO he's outnumbered and well and truly fucked.

[DarrenKaye]

oh fuck i like LSD so that means i have to become a yank??? I LOVE TOM HICKS!!!

Great place for a fight! At least respect the people that don't care about it.

[rebel23]

Mr. Winter is absolutely right.

Hicks a bluffer anyway. only a matter of time until he has to sell, he can't possibly fund the stadium with the current market turmoil, good riddance!

[YouStan Eternity]

Scottish if you like smack
Dutch/Jamaican if you like pot
American* if you like LSD
English if you like Ecstasy
Columbian if you like....

America is so big, it doesn't quite fit....that's why we choose our drug of choice based upon 'nationality'...though it's been 150 years since my folks jumped off the boat.

Although "hillbilly white trash American" works well with meth.  Them backcountry hicks love their meth.

[SoylentGreen]

well i'm off to go catch me a good ol' cripple fight, catch ye laters.

[SallyCinnamon]

Mr. Winter is absolutely right.

Hicks a bluffer anyway. only a matter of time until he has to sell, he can't possibly fund the stadium with the current market turmoil, good riddance!

'who can be awkward and appears still to hold a candle for Real Madrid,'


Where the fuck did he get that idea ?

[El Campeador]

You know,it`s possible that in 5 yrs or less Hicks could be standing beside Rafa and Stevie G when we lift the Premier league title Cup.In his 1 yr in charge we`ve spent more than other season in history.

Oh I get it. johhny's ten a half years old.

[JohnSullie]

Its fairly certain we have inherited  the Doug Ellis of American sports owner(s), its now damage limitation and how fast we can get rid of this leech and the other one.

[Stussy]

'who can be awkward and appears still to hold a candle for Real Madrid,'

Where the fuck did he get that idea ?

Could have come from Parry himself. He gets it right about the menace and cancer that is Hicks, but Henry Winter probably speaks to Coco. The level of support indicates some sympathy for him anyway.

Like I said before, in this situation, Parry is simply the lesser of two evils.

[YouStan Eternity]

As i said before this move from Hicks highlights his lack of Power and Control of the club.

Imagine the same situation in you place of work . . Your boss asks you to resign but doesn't have the authority to fire you.

Imagine how emasculating that would be for a man of Hicks background. 

Even if Parry were to resign(Which i don't think he will) its not like Hicks can appoint someone that will fight his corner because he doesn't have the authority.

IMO he's outnumbered and well and truly fucked.

Look...a substantive post!  Wow! 

Though I'd agree, I doubt Hicks would 'ask for resignation' without knowing he had the authority....which almost makes me think there's a deal in place for Hicks

It's like Texas hold-em poker...you don't show your cards until you know you have a winning hand...then again, could be a bluff...you can't really show your cards with a bluff...who the hell knows?

[rebel23]

'who can be awkward and appears still to hold a candle for Real Madrid,'


Where the fuck did he get that idea ?

well that's just a stupid assumption but mostly what he's saying is right...

[Oingy Boingy]

'who can be awkward and appears still to hold a candle for Real Madrid,'


Where the fuck did he get that idea ?

winter seems to have some good sources at the club...namely our captain
to be honest i dont mind winter writes some decent stuff and has always been pretty fair about us

[Stussy]

Its fairly certain we have inherited  the Doug Ellis of American sports owner(s), its now damage limitation and how fast we can get rid of this leech and the other one.

Naah mate. Hicks is the Freddie Shepherd of American sports owners.

[SallyCinnamon]

well that's just a stupid assumption but mostly what he's saying is right...

Yeah it just irks me when a journo writes what is essentialy a decent artical but then feels the need to add a sly dig/bullshit

[Alpha]

There were perfectly reasonable questions off of MANY RAWKites and he has avoided everyone of them. So IMO he deserve's everything he gets

JohnnyF is one of those guys that spins plates on sticks. Whether you are asking him a question, answering one of his or giving him abuse, he is happy. Just as long as you aren't ignoring him. It's when you start to lose patience that he will finally answer your question, respond to your answer or tell you to grow up. As long as you are engaging, he'll keep you spinning like a plate on a stick. I've seen it a thousand times.

He probably believes what he says about Hicks but that isn't why he says it. A clue to the real reason can be seen in the time it takes him to leave after first accouncing he is leaving. Attention.

Nothing personal Johnny but you've already bored one Liverpool forum to tears. Enough is enough mate.

[mazlo123]

Look...a substantive post!  Wow! 

Though I'd agree, I doubt Hicks would 'ask for resignation' without knowing he had the authority....which almost makes me think there's a deal in place for Hicks

It's like Texas hold-em poker...you don't show your cards until you know you have a winning hand...then again, could be a bluff...you can't really show your cards with a bluff...who the hell knows?

He doesn't strike me as a man who asks very often, more of a man that tells.

These are the last actions of a desperate man.

[JohnSullie]

Naah mate. Hicks is the Freddie Shepherd of American sports owners.

To be honest Stussy it seems we have  lot worse than those two both combined,sad sad times,not usuallly our way to undermine a progression to the  semis of a European Cup by making this shit public knowlegde,not as if we have fourth clinched yet either is it?,but that fat c*nt has to rattle/undermine the club again in his own intrests.

[7Dalglish]

Look...a substantive post!  Wow! 

Though I'd agree, I doubt Hicks would 'ask for resignation' without knowing he had the authority....which almost makes me think there's a deal in place for Hicks

It's like Texas hold-em poker...you don't show your cards until you know you have a winning hand...then again, could be a bluff...you can't really show your cards with a bluff...who the hell knows?

If he had authority he wouldn't ask and he wouldn't leak his request to the press. This is about his PR team mis-calculating the level of disdain for him compared with Parry, his team wanted to try and get the fans back onside.

One reason for this is would be that if he is trying to find people to join him in ousting Gillett he needs the package to be as attractive as possible, this would include having a content, trusting fan base.

All in my opinion of course

[RedRush]

Yeah it just irks me when a journo writes what is essentialy a decent artical but then feels the need to add a sly dig/bullshit

Echo this feeling. However the article is less than half decent. It is what it is - propaganda. It portrays Parry as the good guy and Hicks the bad, white and black with absolutely no intermiediate hues. Instead of being an apologist for Parry, he'd been better off writing how it is in many fans' eyes that Parry is also an evil but a lesser one.

[YouStan Eternity]

If he had authority he wouldn't ask and he wouldn't leak his request to the press. This is about his PR team mis-calculating the level of disdain for him compared with Parry, his team wanted to try and get the fans back onside.

Frankly, I've never heard of anyone 'asking' for a resignation without authority.  It's generally how high-level executives (and members of political positions) are 'politely' told they are fired while allowing whoever to 'save face.' 

[Oingy Boingy]

JohnnyF is one of those guys that spins plates on sticks. Whether you are asking him a question, answering one of his or giving him abuse, he is happy. Just as long as you aren't ignoring him. It's when you start to lose patience that he will finally answer your question, respond to your answer or tell you to grow up. As long as you are engaging, he'll keep you spinning like a plate on a stick. I've seen it a thousand times.

He probably believes what he says about Hicks but that isn't why he says it. A clue to the real reason can be seen in the time it takes him to leave after first accouncing he is leaving. Attention.

Nothing personal Johnny but you've already bored one Liverpool forum to tears. Enough is enough mate.

top post just hope a few on here take note...

[mazlo123]

Frankly, I've never heard of anyone 'asking' for a resignation without authority.  It's generally how high-level executives (and members of political positions) are 'politely' told they are fired while allowing whoever to 'save face.' 

Thats why Rick Parry,s refusal to do so has highlighted Hicks lack of muscle in the boardroom

[7Dalglish]

Frankly, I've never heard of anyone 'asking' for a resignation without authority.  It's generally how high-level executives (and members of political positions) are 'politely' told they are fired while allowing whoever to 'save face.' 

Publically yes it would be a polite request but privately it would be an instruction. Hicks isn't able to do that is he? So you haven't disproved anything that I said previously.

[JohnSullie]

Hit him Coco!

[zero zero]

It is what it is - propaganda. It portrays Parry as the good guy and Hicks the bad, white and black with absolutely no intermiediate hues. Instead of being an apologist for Parry, he'd been better off writing how it is in many fans' eyes that Parry is also an evil but a lesser one.

With no mention that Parry was instrumental getting G&H into LFC in the first place. Probably a One target at a time stratgey.

If there's a significant Anti-Hicks feeling amongst the supporters I guess it'll make it harder to bring other investors in to buy out the club (If that is Hicks' plan)

[Stussy]

Publically yes it would be a polite request but privately it would be an instruction. Hicks isn't able to do that is he? So you haven't disproved anything that I said previously.

The newspaper reports say that Tom Hicks Jr sent texts to 'supporters groups' to inform them that he'd made this demand. Seems like he was playing a game to get the grassroots onside. The bloated oaf and his PR team and 'strategists' thinks he's playing an ace card. He knows that Parry is disliked. So he thought this would make everyone take his side.

But he has no idea that he is even more hated than Parry is, and at this point in time, everyone is willing to deal with Coco later, once he is out of the picture and things are settled. He doesn't have a fucking clue. His oafishness and vulgarity is spectacular. It is incredible. You observe him with mouth open.

The man is neutered. He has no power. He's isolated, powerless and humiliated. Its backfired and people hate him even more as DIC take a step back too.

The shame for us is that our board is in complete cold war, and our progress may turn to absolute paralysis this summer, all because of this vulgar hog.

[7Dalglish]

The newspaper reports say that Tom Hicks Jr sent texts to 'supporters groups' to inform them that he'd made this demand. Seems like he was playing a game to get the grassroots onside. The bloated oaf and his PR team and 'strategists' thinks he's playing an ace card. He knows that Parry is disliked. So he thought this would make everyone take his side.

But he has no idea that he is even more hated than Parry is, and at this point in time, everyone is willing to deal with Coco later, once he is out of the picture and things are settled. He doesn't have a fucking clue. His oafishness and vulgarity is spectacular. It is incredible. You observe him with mouth open.

The man is neutered. He has no power. He's isolated, powerless and humiliated. Its backfired and people hate him even more as DIC take a step back too.

The shame for us is that our board is in complete cold war, and our progress may turn to absolute paralysis this summer, all because of this vulgar hog.

[woof]

Whilst I think Hicks and Gillett should leave us alone and fuck off, I do share Hicks' call for Parry to resign because he hasn't matched Liverpool's on-field performance with the off-field stuff which he is responsible for.

[JohnSullie]

Texan prick and  that Twat  that brought him here in the first plavce have to go before Coco,Parry might not be the best but he has atleast one braincell compared to those two tits who have no clue how this club was  run,we have become Newcastle in less than 18 months because of these two shitheads.

[Jambo Power]

Have all the arguments you want. I have seen nothing obscene. The rest is up for debate.

[keyo]

Whilst I think Hicks and Gillett should leave us alone and fuck off, I do share Hicks' call for Parry to resign because he hasn't matched Liverpool's on-field performance with the off-field stuff which he is responsible for.

Hicks is serving his owner agenda though.  And regardless of what is thought of Parry's performance, it is clear he and the board do stand in Hicks' way in some manner.  How much this counts for is questionable, but can't be entirely discounted.  You sack Parry, and you have to replace him, who with?  And again, who's agenda will the new guy (or gal) be serving?

[RedRush]

With no mention that Parry was instrumental getting G&H into LFC in the first place. Probably a One target at a time stratgey.

If there's a significant Anti-Hicks feeling amongst the supporters I guess it'll make it harder to bring other investors in to buy out the club (If that is Hicks' plan)

Parry's fucked us for 10 years now and cost us unquantifiable millions with his decision making, culminating in his support for G&H over DIC. We could have gotten Simao, Alves, many more and all this before G&H came in. But what is more galling is that at the height of the Klinnsmann fiasco before it came into the public domain, he actually had the nerve, during a dinner, to brush off Benitez's influence on the 2005 CL triumph, effectively saying that Benitez was clueless in the game. To me that is posturing and trying to gain support, and that makes him a suspect, possibly the key player, in the plot to remove Benitez.

For those with long memories, where were the words of support from Parry for Benitez in his darkest hour? We've only heard from players like Torres, Reina, Alonso, Arbeloa, Riise, Carra during that time.

Rick Parry is a weasel, make that a weasel with a spanking new Ferrari, and does not deserve our support at all.

[JohnSullie]

Parry's fucked us for 10 years now and cost us unquantifiable millions with his decision making, culminating in his support for G&H over DIC. We could have gotten Simao, Alves, many more and all this before G&H came in. But what is more galling is that at the height of the Klinnsmann fiasco before it came into the public domain, he actually had the nerve, during a dinner, to brush off Benitez's influence on the 2005 CL triumph, effectively saying that Benitez was clueless in the game. To me that is posturing and trying to gain support, and that makes him a suspect, possibly the key player, in the plot to remove Benitez.

For those with long memories, where were the words of support from Parry for Benitez in his darkest hour? We've only heard from players like Torres, Reina, Alonso, Arbeloa, Riise, Carra during that time.

Rick Parry is a weasel, make that a weasel with a spanking new Ferrari, and does not deserve our support at all.

RedRush thats fair enough no one I think is  giving Parry support,but you are playing in to Hicks hands with that talk,he brought these guys to the club,hopefully we  can restore it,and thats when Parry will hang.

[zero zero]

Rick Parry is a weasel, make that a weasel with a spanking new Ferrari, and does not deserve our support at all.

I agree with you. I wouldn't go as far as 'support' Parry either. The problem is the more succesful the team is, the harder both owners will want to stick it out.

[RedRush]

RedRush thats fair enough no one I think is  giving Parry support,but you are playing in to Hicks hands with that talk,he brought these guys to the club,hopefully we  can restore it,and thats when Parry will hang.

I don't think there is anyway things can be restored. I'm taking what Cowtownred once wrote in here into context, about how the club is more divided that what we think it is: Gillette+Parry+Some Players on one side and Hicks+Benitez+Some Players on the other side. This is how it looks like at the moment with the way both Parry and Benitez has been posturing.

We do not need Parry's support in the board. There are still the other board members. Anyone that replaces Parry still needs BOTH Gillette and Hick's approval.

And despite what a lot of people say about the timing, I think that now is the time to get rid of Parry, NOT during the close season when we need to act fast for the club to really move forward.

[Stussy]

We do not need Parry's support in the board. There are still the other board members. Anyone that replaces Parry still needs BOTH Gillette and Hick's approval.

Board members

Hicks

Hicks Jr

Gillet

Gillet Jr

Moores

Parry

At the moment its four against two. Bring in Hick's appointment and it strengthens his hand. The question is, do you want Hicks hand strengthened?

We're in paralysis either way.