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Telescopes
« on: November 1, 2011, 09:40:33 am »
Hi guys, need some help please.

I am looking at buying a Telescope, I know nothing at all about them and have around £200 to spend on one.

Can anyone recommend some decent ones for that price?

Mainly to be used for planet and star observations.
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #1 on: November 1, 2011, 09:49:59 am »
That was the peeping tom's defence as well.  ;)

Will you be observing the constellations away from a metropolitan area ? (ie away from smog, pollution etc)
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #2 on: November 1, 2011, 09:54:19 am »
Gobias Industries is the one to ask I believe as he is into his astronomy. I know for a fact that he likes looking at Uranus...
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #3 on: November 1, 2011, 09:54:37 am »
That was the peeping tom's defence as well.  ;)

Will you be observing the constellations away from a metropolitan area ? (ie away from smog, pollution etc)

Yes, live deep in the countryside.
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #4 on: November 1, 2011, 09:55:08 am »
Hi guys, need some help please.

I am looking at buying a Telescope, I know nothing at all about them and have around £200 to spend on one.

Can anyone recommend some decent ones for that price?

Mainly to be used for planet and star observations.

If you know nothing about them, have you considered getting a far cheaper one, and trying it out, as it were?

If you are looking at stars, have a look at this: http://www.stellarium.org/

It is one of the best open source projects there is.

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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #5 on: November 1, 2011, 09:57:45 am »
If you know nothing about them, have you considered getting a far cheaper one, and trying it out, as it were?

If you are looking at stars, have a look at this: http://www.stellarium.org/

It is one of the best open source projects there is.

I have thought about a cheaper one, what are the main differences between lets say a £50 and a £200 one?
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #6 on: November 1, 2011, 10:02:14 am »
I have thought about a cheaper one, what are the main differences between lets say a £50 and a £200 one?

£150?

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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #7 on: November 1, 2011, 10:03:25 am »
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #8 on: November 1, 2011, 10:13:41 am »
If you are looking at stars, have a look at this: http://www.stellarium.org/

I'd second that, absolutely brilliant project. Highly recommended for anyone interested in the heavens.
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #9 on: November 1, 2011, 10:23:23 am »
Hi guys, need some help please.

I am looking at buying a Telescope, I know nothing at all about them and have around £200 to spend on one.

Can anyone recommend some decent ones for that price?

Mainly to be used for planet and star observations.


Get a cheap one to start - you want a refractor to start with - pay about £80 - £100 for it and then invest in eye pieces - The telescope is just a tube - the eye pieces are the important thing.

If you do have streetlights around you - get a phospher filter. If not then you could do with getting a set that has a few options and filters for the planets (They bring the colours out and each planet has a different filter)


Celestron is a good starter.


Get a cheap one to start - you want a refractor to start with - pay about £80 - £100 for it and then invest in eye pieces - The telescope is just a tube - the eye pieces are the important thing.

If you do have streetlights around you - get a phospher filter. If not then you could do with getting a set that has a few options and filters for the planets (They bring the colours out and each planet has a different filter)


Celestron is a good starter.



So £80-£100 for the Telescope and £100 for the eyepieces is a good way to spend that £200.
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #10 on: November 1, 2011, 10:28:48 am »
This is supposed to be a decent one....
http://www.firstlightoptics.com/dobsonians/skywatcher-skyliner-150p-dobsonian.html

And here's a good site with smart people who know what they're talking about (unlike me)
http://stargazerslounge.com/beginners-help-advice/
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #11 on: November 1, 2011, 11:24:28 am »
Decent telescopes were hard to find in this country up until a few years ago. Choices have improved though and Curry's have a pretty decent Celestron 130mm Reflector (complete with motor drive) for £170. Good value I reckon.
 Don't buy anything cheap and nasty for 50 quid, you'll only end up disappointed. If you're serious about taking up Astronomy for a hobby then you'd be better off spending the extra £100.

Oh by the way Bondred, this is better advice than any I give out in the betting thread. ;)
 
 

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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #12 on: November 1, 2011, 11:30:13 am »
Decent telescopes were hard to find in this country up until a few years ago. Choices have improved though and Curry's have a pretty decent Celestron 130mm Reflector (complete with motor drive) for £170. Good value I reckon.
 Don't buy anything cheap and nasty for 50 quid, you'll only end up disappointed. If you're serious about taking up Astronomy for a hobby then you'd be better off spending the extra £100.

Oh by the way Bondred, this is better advice than any I give out in the betting thread. ;)
 
 

Haha that was just plain unlucky!!

What I want is one for looking mainly at planets and moons, with the odd stargazing.
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #13 on: November 1, 2011, 11:36:02 am »
Haha that was just plain unlucky!!

What I want is one for looking mainly at planets and moons, with the odd stargazing.

that one would be fine, and the fact it is complete with a motor-drive means you wont have to keep moving the telescope manually to track the Moon/ planets as they move across the sky.

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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #14 on: November 1, 2011, 11:47:11 am »
that one would be fine, and the fact it is complete with a motor-drive means you wont have to keep moving the telescope manually to track the Moon/ planets as they move across the sky.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/celestron-astromaster-130eq-md-reflector-telescope-with-motor-drive-03506621-pdt.html
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #15 on: November 1, 2011, 11:51:35 am »
If you know nothing about them, have you considered getting a far cheaper one, and trying it out, as it were?

If you are looking at stars, have a look at this: http://www.stellarium.org/

It is one of the best open source projects there is.
I'd second that, absolutely brilliant project. Highly recommended for anyone interested in the heavens.

Thanks for this, never heard of Stellarium before.  Just downloaded it; very nice indeed.
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #16 on: November 1, 2011, 12:57:07 pm »
I used to know a little bit about these.

I'd recommend a reflector telescope; try to get one with as big a mirror as you can afford.  A 4 inch should be within your budget.  Should prove more than adequate for planetary observation and should suffice for things like nebula and comets etc.  The money starts to come in when you start looking at the different lenses you can buy, but I'm afraid I can't really help you on that one as I can't remember much about them.  The good thing though is that you can buy new/better lenses as you can afford them, so sink as much cash as possible into your initial purchase.

Will you be using an equatorial mount or a standard tripod?  And will you be getting an auto tracker?  (A motor to move your telescope and keep the object you're looking at in the field of view.)

EDIT: Just found this one randomly:  http://www.mensgiftshop.com/acatalog/Celestron_Astromaster_130EQ_Motorised_Telescope.html

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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #17 on: November 1, 2011, 12:59:46 pm »
I used to know a little bit about these.

I'd recommend a reflector telescope; try to get one with as big a mirror as you can afford.  A 4 inch should be within your budget.  Should prove more than adequate for planetary observation and should suffice for things like nebula and comets etc.  The money starts to come in when you start looking at the different lenses you can buy, but I'm afraid I can't really help you on that one as I can't remember much about them.  The good thing though is that you can buy new/better lenses as you can afford them, so sink as much cash as possible into your initial purchase.

If I buy one that supports a 4inch lens, how do I upgrade that? does that mean buying a new unit or upgrading the lens? surely I can't buy a bigger one?

Will you be using an equatorial mount or a standard tripod?  And will you be getting an auto tracker?  (A motor to move your telescope and keep the object you're looking at in the field of view.)

I have no idea at all at the moment. Hopefully one with a motor.
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #18 on: November 1, 2011, 01:07:16 pm »
Sorry.  I said 'lens' when I should have said 'eyepiece'.  Shows how much I have forgot!

Different eyepieces have different characteristics.  Smaller ones - like an H8mm for example - offer good magnification but magnification is a trade off against illumination, which is why you want as big a diameter telescope as possible.  Also some lenses are better suited to planets and others to stars.

As I'm not sure how much you know, apologies in advance if I come across as stating the obvious.  To my mind, reflector telescopes (Newtonian/Mirror scopes) are better than refractors (which use lenses) for what you have said you want it for.  Eyepieces will always use lenses though. (I think!)
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #19 on: November 1, 2011, 01:18:01 pm »
Sorry.  I said 'lens' when I should have said 'eyepiece'.  Shows how much I have forgot!

Different eyepieces have different characteristics.  Smaller ones - like an H8mm for example - offer good magnification but magnification is a trade off against illumination, which is why you want as big a diameter telescope as possible.  Also some lenses are better suited to planets and others to stars.

As I'm not sure how much you know, apologies in advance if I come across as stating the obvious.  To my mind, reflector telescopes (Newtonian/Mirror scopes) are better than refractors (which use lenses) for what you have said you want it for.  Eyepieces will always use lenses though. (I think!)

treat me as a complete novice, which is what I am.

I am looking closely at the one the lad posted earlier in the thread, looks ok for what i need, I think.

I take it I would have to buy the different coloured lens separately?
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #20 on: November 1, 2011, 01:23:58 pm »
Bondred, when you come to make your choice (I notice Red Beret recommended the same one I did, looks really good value and a well known make) don't be fooled into thinking higher magnification is better. Some packaging will say stuff like '500X magnification!' if you use a certain eye-piece but that's no good for a 3-4 inch telescope. What you gain in magnification you lose in clarity of image. A general rule of thumb is never look for more than 100x magnification per inch of aperture - basically, if you have a 5" telescope don't try for more than 500X magnification etc. Some top Astronomers say 50X per inch is about right.

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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #21 on: November 1, 2011, 01:28:42 pm »
treat me as a complete novice, which is what I am.

I am looking closely at the one the lad posted earlier in the thread, looks ok for what i need, I think.

I take it I would have to buy the different coloured lens separately?

I don't know anything about coloured lenses.  They will be different apertures.  Although you can buy different moon filters which clear out some of the glare - very useful when observing a full moon, although to be honest most people prefer to observe either side of the full so the lunar shadows show up details better.

You will get at least one eyepiece with your telescope, maybe two or three.  But you will be able to buy additional ones.  A bit like being able to buy different lenses for a camera body.
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« Reply #22 on: November 1, 2011, 01:29:14 pm »
Bondred, when you come to make your choice (I notice Red Beret recommended the same one I did, looks really good value and a well known make) don't be fooled into thinking higher magnification is better. Some packaging will say stuff like '500X magnification!' if you use a certain eye-piece but that's no good for a 3-4 inch telescope. What you gain in magnification you lose in clarity of image. A general rule of thumb is never look for more than 100x magnification per inch of aperture - basically, if you have a 5" telescope don't try for more than 500X magnification etc. Some top Astronomers say 50X per inch is about right.

The one you recommended as an aperture of 5.1" and magnification of x65, is that enough to have clear images of the distant planets?
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #23 on: November 1, 2011, 01:31:25 pm »
The one you recommended as an aperture of 5.1" and magnification of x65, is that enough to have clear images of the distant planets?

That will give excellent views of Jupiter and Saturn.  I had a 2" refractor when I was a teenager and I could easily see up to four cloud bands on Jupiter, plus the Galilean satellites.
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« Reply #24 on: November 1, 2011, 01:33:47 pm »
That will give excellent views of Jupiter and Saturn.  I had a 2" refractor when I was a teenager and I could easily see up to four cloud bands on Jupiter, plus the Galilean satellites.

That's good news then!

I am definitely leaning towards that one, although I am scouring around the net at the moment.
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #25 on: November 1, 2011, 01:41:03 pm »
Can't hurt to check user reviews on Amazon mate. :)

Just an aside, but I used to love going to Universal Studios on Dale Street.  The two old guys running that place really knew their stuff when it came to telescopes!
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #26 on: November 1, 2011, 01:47:28 pm »
The one you recommended as an aperture of 5.1" and magnification of x65, is that enough to have clear images of the distant planets?

If anything that magnification would be considered low but don't let that put you off. You can buy more lenses as you go on to give higher magnification.
 Other things like Barlow lenses will double the magnification of any lens you are using. I had one years ago and didn't think much of it to be honest but it's like anything else, if you spend a few extra quid you get better quality.

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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #27 on: November 1, 2011, 02:18:27 pm »
Just bought this one but the neighbours are a bit pissed off.


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« Reply #28 on: November 1, 2011, 02:25:19 pm »
Just bought this one but the neighbours are a bit pissed off.



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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #29 on: November 1, 2011, 04:00:01 pm »
If anything that magnification would be considered low but don't let that put you off. You can buy more lenses as you go on to give higher magnification.
 Other things like Barlow lenses will double the magnification of any lens you are using. I had one years ago and didn't think much of it to be honest but it's like anything else, if you spend a few extra quid you get better quality.

Much much better off buying a cheaper telescope with decent eyepieces. Barlows are mainly a waste of time unless you get a really good quality one for an excellent mount. An average telescope with good eyepieces will always be better than a good telescope with average eyepieces.

Most of the bundles come with 'starter' eyepieces with few filters and get away with it by offering Barlows.

I bought an inexpensive Celestron with 10 Eyepieces and 10 filters for less than £200.
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #30 on: November 1, 2011, 04:06:01 pm »
TAL1 was recommended when I bought one for my lad a few years ago (from the very place in the link below)

http://www.telescopes-binoculars.co.uk/acatalog/tal.html

Solid bit of kit and a selection of eyepieces, works very well from a decent site, steal at £199
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #31 on: November 1, 2011, 04:17:25 pm »
TAL1 was recommended when I bought one for my lad a few years ago (from the very place in the link below)

http://www.telescopes-binoculars.co.uk/acatalog/tal.html

Solid bit of kit and a selection of eyepieces, works very well from a decent site, steal at £199


That's only got 4 (Average) Eyepieces and the 3x Barlow. The filters are good, but most people need a sodium (For streetlights)

This is the Celestron Eyepiece set I've got at present;

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=celestron+eyepieces&gs_upl=374l4773l0l4914l19l13l0l0l0l0l562l2170l2-2.3.0.1l6l0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=5957830009586458520#


The Celestron Eyepiece and Filter Kit contains: - Five Superior Grade Plössl Eyepieces - 1.25 inch — 4 element design with a 52 degree AFOV (32mm has 44 degrees ) — Superb color resolution- edge sharpness and clarity. All eyepieces are fully multi-coated for maximum contrast and resolution. Supplied are a 4mm-6mm- 9mm- 15mm- and 32mm. - Barlow Lens - 2x 1.25 inch — Compliments the Plössl eyepieces in this kit and gives you a total of ten power combinations. High grade glass optics with fully multicoated lenses are used so there is no degradation of image. - Six Colored Eyepiece(Lunar and Planetary) Filters - 1.25 inch — Included are Kodak Wratten 12- 21- 25- 56- 58A- and 80A


The multi-coated Plossl eyepieces really make a difference (Plus a low powered 1.25 Barlow - higher powers like the 3x are pretty useless in most cases) I think I might have bought the Sodium seperately.


I've got it on a cheap mount; You can buy a decent refractor for about £80 - £120. But the clarity is very good due to the quality of the eyepieces. The original ones were utter dogshite.


That one you listed there might well do the job



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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #32 on: November 1, 2011, 04:33:36 pm »
It's a headfuck.

I have spent all day surfing the net for Telescopes and whats good/shit about them, and what i would need, and what I don't etc etc

Still not got a fucking clue.

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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #33 on: November 1, 2011, 05:16:12 pm »
It's a headfuck.

I have spent all day surfing the net for Telescopes and whats good/shit about them, and what i would need, and what I don't etc etc

Still not got a fucking clue.

Keeps coming back to a Skymaster or the Celestron Astromaster

Honestly don't think you could go wrong with either mate, it's not like you're searching for new comets or anything.
 Both those would comfortably do the job you want them for so if I was you I'd just pick one before bellends like myself confuse the issue even more. ;)

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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #34 on: November 1, 2011, 05:52:57 pm »
If you know nothing about them, have you considered getting a far cheaper one, and trying it out, as it were?

If you are looking at stars, have a look at this: http://www.stellarium.org/

It is one of the best open source projects there is.

Thanks for this... never knew about it had it on all afternoon, love it  :wave


oh and as for a cheap telescope....



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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #35 on: November 1, 2011, 06:04:00 pm »
....oh and as for a cheap telescope....

That got me remembering as a little child putting pin pricks like constellations in the round cardboard end of a smarty tube then sticking the coloured top on it and peering through.

Who needs Palomar and Mt Wilson.

There's even a facebook page ... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=286031461220

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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #36 on: November 1, 2011, 07:54:56 pm »
If you know nothing about them, have you considered getting a far cheaper one, and trying it out, as it were?

If you are looking at stars, have a look at this: http://www.stellarium.org/

It is one of the best open source projects there is.

That is amazing, just spent the last hour looking at it.
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #37 on: November 1, 2011, 08:35:41 pm »
A telescupe eh?
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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #38 on: November 1, 2011, 08:39:33 pm »
This is the one I got and where I got it. Although it never included the motor back then (!)

http://www.scopesnskies.com/prod/telescopes/sky-watcher/newtonianreflectors/explorer130incramotor.html

Check this thread to see some of what I can see with it. Also be aware that the photos and videos don't represent the quality of the naked eye as I don't have loads of fancy dan photography equipment, just a cheap webcam.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=72798.120

It's a damn fine piece of kit, especially for the price. It's regarded as one of the best "starter" scopes going for beginners (like me).

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Re: Telescopes
« Reply #39 on: November 1, 2011, 08:44:46 pm »
I'd get a good set of binoculars instead with a tripod. There are ones that are set up specifically for astronomy. I have 2 scopes and I find it's much handier to grab the bins and view rather than have the hassle of hauling scopes around the place.