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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #120 on: August 28, 2021, 07:30:29 pm »
That run from Jota was baffling. Finally space in behind, Mane open and screaming for it so he can take a touch into space and shoot and Jota just runs towards him with the ball, allowing all the space to close up, just hanging on to the ball more and more

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #121 on: August 28, 2021, 07:30:35 pm »
Quite a few players had stinkers. But I think what was more alarming was the fact that we struggled to take advantage of the extra man. If it was City, they would have carved them into pieces, spamming their extremely effective cutbacks from the byline. Mane's drop-off is actually pretty bad right now imo. He's still a fantastic player but he's just not the same.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #122 on: August 28, 2021, 07:30:42 pm »
I'd take it...

But... Against 10 feels like two points dropped  :(

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #123 on: August 28, 2021, 07:30:58 pm »
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #124 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:00 pm »
Keita should have started instead of Harvey.

Thought Harvey was one of the better performances. Let down by more senior teammates.

It was a good performance

It really wasn't.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #125 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:01 pm »
Oh fuck off will you.

I agree with that sentiment.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #126 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:07 pm »
Azpilicueta Falling and holding his face when nobody touched him and the ref buys it……pathetic cheating.

For sure, made even worse by the fact he was shoving and butting at every corner and was given a mere warning with five minutes left

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #127 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:10 pm »
Keita should have started instead of Harvey.

Elliott was our best player today so I'm not sure that wouldve been a bright idea
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #128 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:14 pm »
So looks like we still struggle against low block.

Yes because we will play one of the best sides in the World every week now wont we.
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #129 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:32 pm »
Klopp made a mistake in fielding Robbo and Firmino, both played horribly. And Mane made all the wrong decisions very single time!

Firmino was one of our best players before going off. Him dropping deep would have helped us a lot when they went down to 10.
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #130 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:37 pm »
Ironically still playing against 11 men even when the sending off happened.

This bullshit that 'soft fouls' aren't given and the 'referee was letting things flow' starkly shown up by the match stats of Liverpool supposedly committing 12 'fouls' (No bookings, so all soft) and Chelsea supposedly commiting 3 fouls.


There is the difference right there in plain black and white.
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #131 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:39 pm »
We are still running out of ideas when we see 9 behind the ball. Elliott had a good outing but stopped playing those ambitious balls in the second half and kept it more simple. Would have liked him to continue in the same ilk but for an 18 yr old, that was terrific. Thought Robbo was very rusty, but that'll change with time. All in All, not a bad point just looks way worse given the circumstances.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #132 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:44 pm »
Common theme carried over from last season. Late subs and one dimensional play.  Just kept crossing when they had 3 CBs to mob it up. I may be in the minority but I think the starting lineup backfired and also think Elliot was poor. I could understand Robertson coming in even though tsmikas was in form but keita should have started 1 and Thiago should have came on at half time.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #133 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:44 pm »
We would have been beaten without the sending off.

Klopp can be too loyal at times.

Standard of our rivals has risen big time in last 12 months, our best may not be enough now I fear.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #134 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:50 pm »
The man being sent off suited them, I reckon.

Not worried. A draw was probably a fair result, as these lot will be horrible to play against for most teams. They jammed their goal, and we needed a bit of the rub of the green but didn't get it.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #135 on: August 28, 2021, 07:31:59 pm »
We pulled our punches and were not bold enough. That ball needs that net

To give plastic scum some credit, their shape in the 2nd half was good and compact but we need to find ways around this as it's how shithouses play and it's not new to us.

Our defence looked sharp, our attack looked blunt. Mo with a blank  :-X

Someone lobbed a bottle of piss though  ;D

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #136 on: August 28, 2021, 07:32:03 pm »
Oh fuck off will you.

We were poor. Cant play like that against a rival with 10 men, so many chances to show fight and so many picked the wrong option time and again or just gave the ball away

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #137 on: August 28, 2021, 07:32:04 pm »
Lukaku anonymous in a big game as per. The hype around him the past couple of weeks has been ludicrous.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #138 on: August 28, 2021, 07:32:08 pm »
Henderson and Robbo looked rusty, but thats understandable.

Our set piece delivery though, just awful and unacceptable

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #139 on: August 28, 2021, 07:32:08 pm »
Azpilicueta Falling and holding his face when nobody touched him and the ref buys it……pathetic cheating.

Need a gif to be circulating every single time, when ever there is mention of "play acting".
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #140 on: August 28, 2021, 07:32:20 pm »
That run from Jota was baffling. Finally space in behind, Mane open and screaming for it so he can take a touch into space and shoot and Jota just runs towards him with the ball, allowing all the space to close up, just hanging on to the ball more and more

Fairly certain Mane was offside.
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #141 on: August 28, 2021, 07:32:34 pm »
Piss poor, literally no plan B.
To long before we made substitutions, time to give Tsimikas some time for me.
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #142 on: August 28, 2021, 07:32:54 pm »
A nothing game of football in the end, just atrocious in the attacking third.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #143 on: August 28, 2021, 07:33:03 pm »
Common theme carried over from last season. Late subs and one dimensional play.  Just kept crossing when they had 3 CBs to mob it up. I may be in the minority but I think the starting lineup backfired and also think Elliot was poor. I could understand Robertson coming in even though tsmikas was in form but keita should have started 1 and Thiago should have came on at half time.

What do you mean? Didn't we win ten games in a row at the end of last season?
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #144 on: August 28, 2021, 07:33:05 pm »
Fairly certain Mane was offside.

Maybe i'm wrong but the defender closest to him looked deeper

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #145 on: August 28, 2021, 07:33:08 pm »
Mane looks to have lost a yard.

I Van Dijk was brillant conisdering its his 3rd game back. Matip superb

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #146 on: August 28, 2021, 07:33:09 pm »
Lukaku anonymous in a big game as per. The hype around him the past couple of weeks has been ludicrous.

He wont be playing against Van Dijk and Matip every week.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #147 on: August 28, 2021, 07:33:31 pm »
To many players had below average games. Very disappointing we could not get a win vs a title rival when they are down to 10 men for over a half. The left hand side was very, very poor. Mane is fine up tell the box, but his production in and around is poor.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #148 on: August 28, 2021, 07:33:33 pm »
Created no chances of note? Salah had a great chance after we broke ten minutes left in the game. He also was nearly in after a great ball from Robertson.


Did either test the keeper? one weak shot from a tired player. We never looked like scoring.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #149 on: August 28, 2021, 07:33:33 pm »
United under Ferguson are getting at least 6 minutes added on there.

I have news for you, under Olly they're getting it too. Especially from Altrincham's biggest fan, Anthony Taylor.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #150 on: August 28, 2021, 07:34:02 pm »
We finished the game with an almost identical shape / set up as we started it …. Bizarre

Desperately need more firepower from the bench in the squad

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #151 on: August 28, 2021, 07:34:09 pm »
Elliott was wasteful. I can see the hype, but he caused a few bad counters.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #152 on: August 28, 2021, 07:34:09 pm »
We would have been beaten without the sending off.

Klopp can be too loyal at times.

Standard of our rivals has risen big time in last 12 months, our best may not be enough now I fear.

You don't know that. Without the sending off, Mane equalises. Then we have 45 minutes, with momentum, against a team playing open against us. 
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #153 on: August 28, 2021, 07:34:11 pm »
We would have been beaten without the sending off.

Klopp can be too loyal at times.

Standard of our rivals has risen big time in last 12 months, our best may not be enough now I fear.
Without the sending off it would have been a more open game, and who knows what might have happened. Playing against 10 men who can defend well isn't always easy.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #154 on: August 28, 2021, 07:34:18 pm »
Dreadful second half, killed me to watch. We looked totally deflated and poor. Insane to think a team that's collected 97 pts, 99 pts, 2 CL finals, 1 CL win looked this unconfident against 10 men at Anfield.

Robbo definitely not fit, looked the most unsure out of anyone and in hindsight should have been hooked earlier. I thought the Firmino sub was good. Most of our players' final ball was shit, Hendo was spraying them around in the first half but his movement off the ball was good at least. In my opinion having another class FW would inject some competition for spots and give the FWs something to play for, they need it. If there was no red card we would have lost this game 100%.

Hard to imagine us having a deep CL run or winning the league when we're facing City, this inspired Chelsea side, as much as I hate to say it, and the best United side in 10 years (on paper, manager notwithstanding) if we have a handful more games like this. Margin for error is razor thin.
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #155 on: August 28, 2021, 07:34:20 pm »
Firmino was one of our best players before going off. Him dropping deep would have helped us a lot when they went down to 10.

Agreed. But he was taken off against 11 when we were 1-down and were leaving atleast one of their centre halves unoccupied because Bobby was coming way too deep. It would have been great against 10-men maybe but Jota was vital in that goalmouth scramble, so it was the right decision however you look at it.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #156 on: August 28, 2021, 07:34:22 pm »
and no fk, but rentboys lay down for nothing and

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #157 on: August 28, 2021, 07:34:23 pm »
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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #158 on: August 28, 2021, 07:34:26 pm »
Mane looks to have lost a yard.

I Van Dijk was brillant conisdering its his 3rd game back. Matip superb

Yep. Slow to react to loose balls too imo.

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Re: Liverpool 1 v Chelsea 1 Havertz 22' Salah 45+5' (p)
« Reply #159 on: August 28, 2021, 07:34:28 pm »
3 min fucking joke, and the fact they wasted 1,5 min in extra time and the whistle blows at 3:17 shows what a shit anthony is. Also TAA getting run down and no fk, but rentboys lay down for nothing and get fks. Nowhere near creative enough in second half, and Kostas should have started. Ok result overall, but still got stuff to work on. Great intensity in periods!

The Manc c*nt even kept pointing at his watch and pretending that he was 'adding time on'

4 minutes didn't even cover their players going down, the subs or the treatment.

Absolute fucking shitstain that lad.
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